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Old 06-15-2010, 09:39 AM   #1
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Question Rally stripes - Vinyl vs. Paint

I had my Camaro for a year and now I want to get black bumble bee style rally stripes. The only problem is that I want to know the pros and cons of Vinyl stripes vs. Painted stripes. I see a lot of yall have rally stripes or had them in the past so I would like to get some feedback so I can know which direction to go. Thanks.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:48 AM   #2
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I have the black factory vinyl stripes on mine. For me the factory stripes are fine. They are not for everyone though.

The factory stripes are cheaper and I think they look great. The black ones are flat black and if your car is out in the sun a lot I'm not sure how well they will hold up over time. Mines garaged so I'm not worried about if they will get weathered over time.

If you go painted you can do whatever you want as far as pattern and color. It's more expensive and you have to find a good body shop you trust with your car. It'll be more personalized and won't look like everyone else's stripes.

It's up to you.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:58 AM   #3
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:30 AM   #4
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I have vinyl bumblebee stripes. They are doing fine so far and they are a lot cheaper than painting.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:39 AM   #5
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I will be painting mine when I find someone local. What worries me is when I get nick / chip in the white strip how do you fix it ? It hasn't happened yet, but it will. Paint I can always fix, vinyl ?
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:39 AM   #6
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Vinyl are cheaper and Can be taken off if needed to. Paint holds up better.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:41 AM   #7
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my question has always been --- if i get stripes, take them off in a few years -- is the paint going to be faded around the stripes so there is a noticeable difference where the stripes were?

My car is black.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:44 AM   #8
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There are pros and cons to either. I throw out what I see...

Vinyl
Pros:
-Much cheaper. Usually around 1/3 or the cost.
-If you don't like the color or want to change the look or anything they can be removed.
-If installed by a Pro your everything should be nice and straight.

Cons:
-Won't last as long as paint especially if left outside.
-Some people don't like the fact that you can feel the edge of the vinyl. They want it nice and smooth.
-Possible fadding and cracking over time.


Paint
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-More permenant. If don't correctly it's the way to go.
-Nice and smooth if clearcoated.

Cons:
-Much more expensive.
-It's a one time shot. If you don't like it for some reason you have to re-do everything.
-No changing of color or design down the road if you want.
-Make sure to have a good painter that knows what they are doing. If the lines are off or if they put the paint on to heavy it can bleed through.

I went with vinyl mostly because of price and the abilty to change the color down the road. I was thinking that i might go with black stripes but now that I've had my white stripes I don't think that's going to happen. The guy I found did a FANTASTIC job. The mail slot was not an issue. Everything lined up perfectly and he even rounded the vinyl over the edges just like paint. I've actually had people in shock that it wasn't painted. Now I think my guy was better than the average vinyl installer but look ask around and you'll find them. I go my custom stripes + gills + visors done for $480 out the door. Couldn't be happier and would absolutley do it all over again.

Here is a pic I came across last week of some painted stripes. Look close at the pin stripes on around the outer edge of the stripe. see how the paint bled through making the edges jagged. Look at how the pin stripes are not straight. If you were to pick up your car from the shop and see this then you'll be having to have them re-do the job and if they do this BS the first time it will probably happen again.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:47 AM   #9
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my question has always been --- if i get stripes, take them off in a few years -- is the paint going to be faded around the stripes so there is a noticeable difference where the stripes were?

My car is black.
I asked this of my vinyl guy. He said there would be some fadding but more than anything there will be light scratches where the vinyl isn't. He said evertime you wash/wipe on the paint you are going to put tiny little scratches. Nothing really noticeable until you take off the stipes and see the paint that is almost perfect.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:00 PM   #10
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I talked to a local body shop the other day about painted or vinyl and he recommended putting vinyl stripes on and then doing a clear coat over the vinyl. He said he had done this setup to a few corvette owners that brought their cars to him and it turned out great. I welcome the feedback from anyone that has any knowledge on vinyl and clear coating.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:45 PM   #11
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Thanks. My car is outside and I have seen faded vinyl stripes and it makes the car look like sh*t. Thats the only thing I'm worried about with the vinyl. And the paint if even more of a concern because I would lose my mind if its not a 100% perfect job. So I'm limbo like crazy. I might just buckle down get Funkmaster Flex or Chip Foose folks do it.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:25 PM   #12
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had mine painted on by the dealer.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:32 PM   #13
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IMHO ... I think the factory stripes really don't do the car justice. A little too skinny, and they fall short (literally) front and rear. The stencil kit from Clean Cut Creations makes painting them on a breeze for any talented painter, and I think the results speak for themselves ...
No disrespect to anyone with factory stripes ... just my $.02 ......
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:14 PM   #14
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:17 PM   #15
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Where in MD are you? maybe one day i can bring my car past and you can check out my painted on stripes. I think paint is the only way to go...but it did cost $1200+ but they shop did a very good job.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:15 PM   #16
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I dropped mine at the dealer this morning for painted stripes.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:30 PM   #17
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Have painted on stripes, my husband did them at our body shop 2 days after we got the car. I love the painted on stripes would not have any but painted stripes.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:34 PM   #18
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:41 AM   #21
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Where in MD are you? maybe one day i can bring my car past and you can check out my painted on stripes. I think paint is the only way to go...but it did cost $1200+ but they shop did a very good job.
I'm in Upper Marlboro, MD. But damn $1200...If I pay that they better have my car picture perfect.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:25 PM   #22
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Like I said....Pros and Cons to both. You just have to weigh out the issues.

If you know your not going to change the color or style, know of a good painter, and are willing to spend $1,000 - $1,500 then I would go painted.

IMO...even vinyl needs to be put on by a professional. If done correctly and with good quality vinyl they shouldn't peel up. Worst case scenario if they did they should be able to be removed and re-done.

I like the idea of clear coating over the vinyl other than if for some reason you ever needed to have body work done then I'm sure it would be a PIA to try to remove the clear and vinyl. You would have to use a sander to go through the clear and surely it wouldn't be pretty to try to sand off vinyl.

I've already put on 3 coats of wax over my vinyl and I'll continue to wax at least once a year (I would do twice a year if mine sat outside). This should help protect the stripes from peeling, or fading, or cracking.

I've heard that the vinyl will fade way before cracking and obviously a solid light color like white or silver is not going to fade nearly as fast as a metalic dark color.

I think if you find a good vinyl guy you would be suprised at how well it can be done. I showed my painter (who normally charges $1,500 for stripes) my vinyl this last weekend when we were at a get together and he liked them so much that he wanted the vinyl guys number because he has plenty of cars that get vinyl work done.

With yours being an LT and not having the mail slot then you should be able to find someone that can add vinyl correctly. The mail slot is not easy and I had one guy who gets alot of praise around my area turn me down because he did not want to deal with the mail slot. I then found the guy that did mine and he had 3 other vinyl installers watch as he did my mail slot so that they could learn how to do them properly. To bad you're not in the DFW, TX area.

Here is one thing to consider though. If you do decide to go vinyl and for some reason you decide you didn't like it or that you wanted to go painted, you can have them removed and then painted. You will be out possibly $400 or so but you wouldn't be out nearly as much as painting them on.

Agian.....I paid $480 out the door for custom stripes over a mail slot, side gills, and visor covers.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:24 PM   #23
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My paint job is $6500 and there was not a chance in hell I was going to put a vinyl sticker on the paint. I had mine painted on. Which enabled me a better variety of paint to get the right "look". I can't imagine that pink with any other sticker color on there. At the beginning they tried to persuade me to do vinyl - for simplicity - letting me know vinyl has come a long way. But I insisted.

The vinyl was put on by the dealership so I had them take that off the sticker since it wasn't something I really wanted. I wasn't charged for removing it either, all paint came off the car before the pink went on.
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