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Z28 $49,000. 65 67.01%
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:35 PM   #1
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Would you buy a GSR ($39,000. estimate) version of the Camaro. Basically a Z28 ($49,000. estimate) without a supercharger (a slight bump in HP over the SS). Some what like the difference between a Z06 and a GS Corvette.

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Old 07-10-2010, 11:42 AM   #2
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at 49 grand I can probably buy a vette. the 39 grand one is probably just going to have a few different body parts. I can install a SC and get the same horse power for about 7 grand. Not worth IMO
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:51 AM   #3
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Z28 if it comes with an LS9 for 49K i am in on that deal, Not an LSA.
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2ssrs don't hold your breath on that deal.

as for a Z28 it's a Z28 not a basic SS which has been slapped on everything in GM's line up. why settle for something you don't want? lol.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:56 AM   #5
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GM did very well with the SS on power and everything. I think they will make a good choice. I mean they have to, the camaro is probably holding the company up right now. I still think th 49 tag plus tax title and license is going to make it a lot queen
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Are we talking a horsepower bump and suspension work?
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Old 07-10-2010, 05:21 PM   #7
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at 49 grand I can probably buy a vette. the 39 grand one is probably just going to have a few different body parts. I can install a SC and get the same horse power for about 7 grand. Not worth IMO
This. I'd rather get an SS and add whatever I could to it to match the Z28 if that's the price.
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For $49 large it better have more than a bump. Either DI V8 close to 500 hrorse or LSA.
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For $49 large it better have more than a bump. Either DI V8 close to 500 hrorse or LSA.
I think what he was getting at was .... 49000 for the LSA unicorn or 39 for a bump... I think

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I'm not going to lie I would be very interested in a bump and some suspension work.... throw in some lighter wheels to drop more weight and I'm sold.

Coil-overs = Weight reduction
Lighter wheels = Weight reduction
Free flowing CAI and exhaust = Weight reduction and slight HP bump (if done right)

Sounds like the beginning of a good track car. JMHO

Sounds almost Z28ish.....

Yes I know I'm in the minority on this one.

Weight reduction thread....
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92747

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I'm not going to lie I would be very interested in a bump and some suspension work.... throw in some lighter wheels to drop more weight and I'm sold.

Coil-overs = Weight reduction
Lighter wheels = Weight reduction
Free flowing CAI and exhaust = Weight reduction and slight HP bump (if done right)

Sounds like the beginning of a good track car. JMHO

Sounds almost Z28ish.....

Yes I know I'm in the minority on this one.

Weight reduction thread....
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92747
If you're describing Z28 as something like the GSR the OP posted, for $39K, that sounds pretty good. I still don't know it this package would be enough to buy, but it does sound like a great package
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If you're describing Z28 as something like the GSR the OP posted, for $39K, that sounds pretty good. I still don't know it this package would be enough to buy, but it does sound like a great package
I'm sure what Im looking for is not what the Z28 is going to be, but I can hope!

I do however understand the business side of needing something to target the Gt500..... So it would make since for the Z28 to be a LSA monster... unless there is more than one extra model on the way. In that case I have no idea what the freck is going on.
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I'm sure what Im looking for is not what the Z28 is going to be, but I can hope!

I do however understand the business side of needing something to target the Gt500..... So it would make since for the Z28 to be a LSA monster... unless there is more than one extra model on the way. In that case I have no idea what the freck is going on.
Why not keep the SS, add the LSA as an option with some small apperance changes, you get something to rival the GT500 and keep cost low
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Why not keep the SS, add the LSA as an option with some small apperance changes, you get something to rival the GT500 and keep cost low
That sounds good, as long as the handling is tweaked and the drivetrain strengthened...
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I'm sure what Im looking for is not what the Z28 is going to be, but I can hope!

I do however understand the business side of needing something to target the Gt500..... So it would make since for the Z28 to be a LSA monster... unless there is more than one extra model on the way. In that case I have no idea what the freck is going on.
I just really think LSA is the easiest way to get there and makes the most logical choice given performance/money/time. I DO hope it handles as well as it goes though. We see there are many cars here that handle extremely well with good at full weight right now, so though I know an improvement is certainly there, but not completely necessary. Look at the Pedders and Pfadt cars as examples.

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Why not keep the SS, add the LSA as an option with some small apperance changes, you get something to rival the GT500 and keep cost low
Though I wouldn't have a problem with this, I don't believe GM would simply add LSA as an option. There are going to be so many drivetrain/powertrain updates to handle that power increase and I don't think GM would do that without just creating another model (i.e. Z28). I don't think GM is going with ZL1 moniker either - few people, outside of car-people, know what ZL1 is. I don't think GM's going to use a moniker that isn't widely recognizable. When ZL1 was around, the Big Three were just as much about getting cars on race tracks as they were about selling them; now, they're all about selling them - there's not enough money to advertise on the track.

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That sounds good, as long as the handling is tweaked and the drivetrain strengthened...
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i would buy a gsr camaro.
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The only thing I would be interested in trading up to is an LS7 powered Camaro. Otherwise I think I'll keep what I have. Although the rumor is that the LS7 is going away. Something to be said about a killer NA engine.
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I would be very happy with a Supercharged Z-28.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:44 PM   #20
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I think what he was getting at was .... 49000 for the LSA unicorn or 39 for a bump... I think
sorry been away for a while...

But yes, the Z/28 will be track capable (I'm quite sure) so think Z/28 = Z06, and GSR Camaro = GS Corvette. Handling upgrades (sways, shocks, wheels, tires, lowered, etc), racier looks (hood, spoiler, etc), & extra sport inside, out and under (6 piston brakes, lower gearing, seats, etc), but 440 HP not 550 HP. Add your own supercharger or just add favorite curvey road and enjoy, etc.
More sport less "2" SS!
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Z28 with an LS7 and some body mods - wider track, coil overs and lighter wheels
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The GSR should be bumped to 40K with factory Nitrous...LOL
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It's a fact the LS7 has an end date. not a rumor. and thank god it's not an option. at least from the aftermarket modability. for the ls7 I would not supercharge it. . .at least with the amount of boost I would want. maybe 5-6 lbs but I'm looking north of 12 lbs of boost. . . oh well it's a good motor just not the best choice.
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Think they would have been better off offering the 2SS as something with more performance instead of just leather and some xmas lights. Kept the 1ss they way it is but with the option to add leather etc.
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The look they are going for with the Z28 is wonderful, however the powerplant in the Z28 completely lacks creativity.

"Let's just throw the same Motor/Blower/Transmission setup in the car that everyone thinks we're going to do!"

Why is it so damn difficult to for GM to get on the phone with Garrett and have them custom design Turbochargers for the 6.2? In my own opinion, that's setting it apart from the rest of the crowd, and allowing the consumers to have a little more fun with the car.

Like I stated, In my own opinion.
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