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Old 10-28-2008, 11:14 PM   #1
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When could a generation V engine make it into the Camaro?

When do you think a generation V engine could find it's way into the Camaro? Of course it is not ready yet but any ideas? 2012 Model?
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:21 PM   #2
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That's a decent question. I was under the impression GM was launching the Camaro with the Gen. V engine. That's what they told the press anyway. Regardless, I'm sure they have plenty of more cards to play with. It's likely they decided their Gen. V engine was too good to compete with the Chally and Stang, so they put it on hold. I don't think we've heard the end of it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:37 PM   #3
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the Gen V is still under R&D, they have variations of it out now. but a Gen V motor in the camaro is def not out of the question for the future
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I think some people around here who have been following the Gen V have predicted around MY2012. Seems a decent guess to me.
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:01 AM   #5
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From what I've read rumor has it that a 5.0L V8 with around 375 or 400 HP will be included in the 2011 Mustang... Maybe GM will surprise us and release the Generation V in a 2011 model to compete with the mustang (Especially if Mustang still holds any significant weight advantage...)
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:05 AM   #6
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I wonder what the gen V will be all about.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:01 AM   #7
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I thought that Gen V engine will come out when new Corvette C7 comes? But since C7 is on hold i wouldn't be suprise that development of gen V. is also on hold. Financial situation in GM is not good.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:25 AM   #8
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If I had to guess they will bring it out the same way they did with the LS1's on the 4th gens. After a few productions years they will give the 5th gen a minor facelift IE changed headlights, tailights, some interior upgrades and the new Gen 5 small block
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:26 AM   #9
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From what I've read rumor has it that a 5.0L V8 with around 375 or 400 HP will be included in the 2011 Mustang... Maybe GM will surprise us and release the Generation V in a 2011 model to compete with the mustang (Especially if Mustang still holds any significant weight advantage...)
I think the LS3 and L99 already compare favorably to those numbers. I'd think they'd be shooting for numbers higher the what are being introduced a SOP. At least 450 I think.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:28 AM   #10
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This came out late last year...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1533

Gen V small blocks should all be equipped with DI, VVT, AFM, and E85 capability among other things. There was rumor that a version of it would be OHC or DOHC as well.

The GMC Denali concept sported a concept 4.9L GenV engine. It was all name, I'm sure, as I doubt they'd put a one-of-a-kind engine in a non-driving concept vehicle.

According to the agreement between GM and the UAW (about a year ago) the GenV engines were slated to begin production in 2011, however, recently GM said they were delaying V8 engine development in order to save and reallocate money...so I'm not sure where it stands right now -- but I know its not dead.
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This came out late last year...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1533

Gen V small blocks should all be equipped with DI, VVT, AFM, and E85 capability among other things. There was rumor that a version of it would be OHC or DOHC as well.

The GMC Denali concept sported a concept 4.9L GenV engine. It was all name, I'm sure, as I doubt they'd put a one-of-a-kind engine in a non-driving concept vehicle.

According to the agreement between GM and the UAW (about a year ago) the GenV engines were slated to begin production in 2011, however, recently GM said they were delaying V8 engine development in order to save and reallocate money...so I'm not sure where it stands right now -- but I know its not dead.
After reading this from Edmunds.com, it appears they should have the capacity to keep up with V8 engines for the Camaro assuming gas has not shot back up by then suppressing demand.
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:17 PM   #12
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I think some people around here who have been following the Gen V have predicted around MY2012. Seems a decent guess to me.
That's what I'm speculating and it's just another reason for me to not be too dissapointed that I can't buy mine until 2012
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:49 PM   #13
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If the Gen V comes out after 2010 for this generation Camaro I'm going to be pretty upset. This is a pretty big chunk of change and I for one don't want to be envious of the guy's who took their sweet time getting around to buying one. If anything the early birds should be rewarded.

I just don't want to feel like the guys who bought a 2001 Z06 with 385 hp only to watch the next year get 405 hp....that's bullshit right there.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:40 PM   #14
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People will be upset, but GM has to think about what will keep their car competitive at the time. If Ford releases a Mustang GT that ups the Camaro significantly in engine and/or fuel economy performance, It would be necesary to stay competitive in the muscle car market and release the Generation V engine, rahter than to wait 3 more years to release it in the next generation Camaro... JMHO

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Old 11-02-2008, 11:47 PM   #15
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Whatever the case GM is not necessarily desperate but they know they need something big right now to save their butts from financial destruction. I'm sure whatever there plans are they are doing the right thing with the Camaro because if this baby dont sell GM is F#@!ED. So with that said i dont see Ford topping the Camaro like ever.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:50 AM   #16
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If the Gen V comes out after 2010 for this generation Camaro I'm going to be pretty upset. This is a pretty big chunk of change and I for one don't want to be envious of the guy's who took their sweet time getting around to buying one. If anything the early birds should be rewarded.

I just don't want to feel like the guys who bought a 2001 Z06 with 385 hp only to watch the next year get 405 hp....that's bullshit right there.
Unfortunately, this is how the world works...same goes for TV's, computers, and basically everything that can evolved quickly. Early birds will never be rewarded, its just not how the system works. You want to be the first person with the toy, its going to cost the most, its going to have bugs, and its going to be obsolete in a short time.

And don't be so quickly to chastise those who haven't put in orders, there are a lot reasons people have not ordered yet. Me personally, I am waiting to see how my contract negotiations for the upcoming year workout before I start buying toys. If I have to wait a year or two and something on the car has evolved, its nothing for any other owner to the envious of (Mustang owners are the ones who are supposed to envious). If it really bothers you that much when something new comes out, trade the car back in. I've seen it done on a number of occasions for the same payments or slightly higher...but that only works if you don't get yourself up side down by taking a long loan with almost nothing down.

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a smaller engine is going to have less tq, its just the way it is. if Gen V is a smaller overhead cam engine, then you might get more HP through higher compression, but you will not have the same TQ. look at BMW's V8. its is a 4 liter DOHC engine that produces 400 HP but about 295 TQ.
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If the Gen V comes out after 2010 for this generation Camaro I'm going to be pretty upset. This is a pretty big chunk of change and I for one don't want to be envious of the guy's who took their sweet time getting around to buying one. If anything the early birds should be rewarded.

I just don't want to feel like the guys who bought a 2001 Z06 with 385 hp only to watch the next year get 405 hp....that's bullshit right there.
You want to be the cool guy on the block with something new you usually pay more and there is always stuff on the horizon that's better. That's not bs, that's how it is. You got it all backwards. You want all the rewards. The world is not going to stop improving after you buy something.
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