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Old 06-19-2010, 04:47 PM   #1
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Small cheap wheels that clear SS roller skate brakes

It's 90 degrees outside but I'm already trying to think ahead to winter when the Pirellis are going to have to come off in favor of some winter meats.
Essentially I'm looking for the cheapest and smallest wheels I can find that will clear the roller skates on the SS brakes.

Tirerack has these in 19's for $79 a piece. Is there any info from the specs that will give me a hint about whether they'll clear the front brakes? Are there any 18's that will fit?
If I accelerate my upgrade plans and buy some fancy ceramic pads without the roller skate counterweights will all 18's fit then?

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Old 06-19-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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It's 90 degrees outside but I'm already trying to think ahead to winter when the Pirellis are going to have to come off in favor of some winter meats.
Essentially I'm looking for the cheapest and smallest wheels I can find that will clear the roller skates on the SS brakes.

Same question here, wondering if anything smaller than 20's would work...
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:19 PM   #3
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not sure about the wheels but I don't believe the pads have anything to do with the counterweights on the calipers.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:56 PM   #4
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Just call Tirerack they should be able to tell you what fits and what does not!!!
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Yes, tirerack has 18's that fit on SS that don't have the counterweights.
Change pads or cut them off if you want to run 18s on SS.
I have no weights on mine (stock).
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:08 PM   #6
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Nice winter wheels George. I also don't have the goofy counterweights. My

Tirerack 18" pkg with Blizzaks made winter fun again.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:40 AM   #7
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not sure about the wheels but I don't believe the pads have anything to do with the counterweights on the calipers.
The new "roller skate" style weights are part of the pads, so switching pads will eliminate them.

Some 18" wheels will fit when the weights are gone - but you really need to test fit them before buying to make sure you still have about 1/2" clearance to the calipers.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:30 PM   #8
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are we talking about the weights on top of the caliper? im confused...
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:13 PM   #9
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Me too, what are "roller skate" style weights? Ans how do I know if I have 'em?
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:30 PM   #10
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"Roller Skate" weights were on later builds of the 2010 Camaro. Here is the thread with photos:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58624

Yes, they are part of the brake pads. You need to get new (aftermarket) pads to get rid of them.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:32 PM   #11
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Me too, what are "roller skate" style weights? Ans how do I know if I have 'em?
DUDE Sorry, but thanks for the great LAUGH.

I didn't know until George showed me, they are SO UGLY.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:44 PM   #12
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Nice winter wheels George. I also don't have the goofy counterweights. My

Tirerack 18" pkg with Blizzaks made winter fun again.
Jeff, are the wheels in your picture these (Sport Edition F9)? (They look pretty damn close!)
It's a shame Tirerack only has "fewer than 2" in stock on those or I'd snap them up in an instant. I wonder if the other Sport Edition's have a similar inside diameter... I guess the only way I'm going to find out is to buy a set and either have them fit or get screwed.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:20 PM   #13
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Hey, plastrd... Did you ever get the answer to your original question re: will the 19" wheels noted mount over the roller skate brakes? I know the 18" won't.
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:42 PM   #14
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Nope :/
I wound up buying two sets of the front 20x8's from the RS package to make my snow package. Overall I think I'll be about $200 over what a clearance set of 19's and tires would have cost from tirerack which sucks but isn't horrible.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:11 PM   #15
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Guys if you DO NOT HAVE THE "ROLLER SKATE" design give me a call as I have 18 inch wheels that will fit. We have removed them from the site as Tire Rack thinks this will be to confusing and will cause customer service issues for a lot of customer. You the enthuiast understand the difference or I can help in that as well.

To the OP if you have the roller skate brakes I have a bad feeling those wheels are not going to clear. If they do I would like to know about it. The drop center looks like it will hit on my CAD programming. You would need to change to the older size pad or cut the dampers off the new style pads (This could lead to increased brake noise).
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:51 PM   #16
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News Flash - Some 19"ers will NOT fit without cutting first.

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Guys if you DO NOT HAVE THE "ROLLER SKATE" design give me a call as I have 18 inch wheels that will fit. We have removed them from the site as Tire Rack thinks this will be to confusing and will cause customer service issues for a lot of customer. You the enthuiast understand the difference or I can help in that as well.

To the OP if you have the roller skate brakes I have a bad feeling those wheels are not going to clear. If they do I would like to know about it. The drop center looks like it will hit on my CAD programming. You would need to change to the older size pad or cut the dampers off the new style pads (This could lead to increased brake noise).
Rudy sent me a 19" to test fit and it didn't fit over the "roller skate style" brake pads. Check my pics. I liked the test wheel so much I tried first by cutting the skate wheels almost in half using my sawsall. It takes balls I know, I was actually laughing while running my saw in the driveway on my brand new SS! The second attempt to fit STILL didn't clear! So out came my Dremel (yes a Dremel) and I cut the skate wheels flush off. Wrenched on the wheel and drove down the road no problem!
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:35 AM   #17
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^ Good info. I am curious do you notice more brake noise with the dampers off? Most 19's are not going to fit without cutting off the dampers.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:11 PM   #18
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^ Good info. I am curious do you notice more brake noise with the dampers off? Most 19's are not going to fit without cutting off the dampers.
Hey Rudy you da man! Thanks again for helping out. I have cut the dampeners on just the passenger side to test the fitment. I did about forty miles of driving today and there is no noticeable difference with the weights gone. I will be cutting the other side soon, not tomorrow, it supposed to be 85 degrees here in upstate NY! (not good to test snow tires. . . )

I will do a write-up with pics when all is said and done just so no-one will have to spend the countless hours I did !
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Guys if you DO NOT HAVE THE "ROLLER SKATE" design give me a call as I have 18 inch wheels that will fit. We have removed them from the site as Tire Rack thinks this will be to confusing and will cause customer service issues for a lot of customer. You the enthuiast understand the difference or I can help in that as well.
Cool! I have been looking for this. I have a 2011 with the roller skates. So first I must change out my front pads to a non roller skate design.

Rudy you can tell me which 18s you have that will fit without the skates? I even have a set of michelin 18 winters i bought from you I can mount.

One other question, maybe someone else will know. I have 235/40 18s, can I tune my speedometer back to true?
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^ I can help you with an 18 inch wheel if you cut the dampers off.
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Hey Rudy you da man! Thanks again for helping out. I have cut the dampeners on just the passenger side to test the fitment. I did about forty miles of driving today and there is no noticeable difference with the weights gone. I will be cutting the other side soon, not tomorrow, it supposed to be 85 degrees here in upstate NY! (not good to test snow tires. . . )

I will do a write-up with pics when all is said and done just so no-one will have to spend the countless hours I did !
Sounds great. I am sure this info will help others out!
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It only takes about 10 minutes per side to change out pads, LOL. I'd not recommend cutting brake pads, just replace them.
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If you own a dremel all it takes is ten minutes of cutting time per side and you don't have to buy $$$ a thing.

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Not sure if this helps or not, but "Jekyll and Hyde" and myself actually spoke to one of the engineers in Oshawa about the wheel weights and he called them "Mickey Mouse Ears."

The official name is acoustic dampeners. He said only under certain circumstances, like if you put the car away at night, and you get dew, condensation etc.. That is where the Brembo brakes make noise.

The noise wasn't discovered until the car was about to be released. So the wheel weights were added until a more permanent solution could be found.
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Yes, tirerack has 18's that fit on SS that don't have the counterweights.
Change pads or cut them off if you want to run 18s on SS.
I have no weights on mine (stock).
The wintertires made all the difference.
No problems and a blast to drive
What is your exact set up? Do they rub when you turn the wheel? Looks nice......
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