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Old 06-25-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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Exclamation HELP $1000 Fraudulant sale

Hey guys,
StrykersG8 posted a thread for some ARH 1 7/8" headers in the for sale section the other day and he was only asking $1000 because he needed the money quick. So I pm'd him throughout the day today and after chatting back and forth I sent him money through paypal for $1000.00. The minute I sent the money to him he stop answering my PM's and I am stuck with no money because paypal will not help me because I sent it as a personal fund so he didn't incur the 3% charge on the money.
My wife also got on here on her name after I paid him and she asked him if they were still for sale and he PM'd her back and said yes they were. This threw up a red flag.
I found he was a member on GRRRR8.NET as well so I checked on there and he is selling stuff on there as well. Well I found one person that bought something from him and they said that they did receive it and his reason for selling him the exhaust he got was because he needed money. He concurred that the guys real name is that same guy that I sent money to and that the guy lived in Arizona. That was another red flag because the guy told me he would be shipping them from Seattle,WA.
However, since I've been searching all day, I've been able to find pictures of other items he was selling on GRRRR8.NET with his screen name in the picture with the items he was selling in the same photobucket account that the picture of the headers was in that he sent me. So I've printed out pictures of his photobucket pictures showing his car and license plate, the items he was selling with his screen name in the pictures and also all the threads he has posted showing the same pictures in them. This way I can link both of the screen names (camaro5 and grrrr8.net) together along with the same photobucket account and with the car in the pictures.
I also found a post where he posted his zip code for shipping purposes, so my wife and I now have his address, phone number and everything we need to know to go to the AZ police and file a police report. I am willing to let it drop if he will just send us our money back.
Anyone fellow Camaro5 members in Arizona wanna help find this guy and get our money back?
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:39 PM   #2
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this is a common but unfortunate scam. due to the many different jurisdictions involved in this case, i hate to tell you that your money is gone and he got away with it. my dept has tried many ebay scams and all were hopeless. good luck and sorry you got scammed. happens to the best of us. good idea to warn others about this.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:44 PM   #3
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Stuff like this is all over craigslist. After my experience with trying to get Saints tickets off of there, I won't think about buying anything from anyone without a phone number or some kind of attaching information. Gotta be careful bro. People like this stryker guy have been doing this for a long time. They know what they're doing. I'm sure he'll tell the next person in line he needs the money ASAP.

Hopefully you get your $1000 returned or a fresh set of headers.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:45 PM   #4
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go to the tucson link and ask for help. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38595
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:56 PM   #5
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Good luck! If he indeed scammed you, don't let him off the hook.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:01 PM   #6
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Damn, there's gotta be someone in Az. that can pay this little prick a visit. If I was closer, I'd make a road trip for you. I hope things work out for ya.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:06 PM   #7
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I see this StrykersG8 guy is offering to sell stuff throughout the members classified area like here:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90401
(see post 3).
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:08 PM   #8
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I'm in DC but good job dude. That's some serious internet stalking in a short amount of time. I'm sure once you put the pressure on him he will crack and give you the money back.

*Personally, I'd just go to the cops*
Thanks, the internet stalking is my skill! My husband (fieldgoal00) is still learning, lol.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:08 PM   #9
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I see this StrykersG8 guy is offering to sell stuff throughout the members classified area like here:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90401
(see post 3).
He's offering to sell a set of rims to the first guy who is looking to buy some rims
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:18 PM   #10
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I say contact the Attorney General in your state as well as the one Arizona. You may be able to get something done. We have this happen all the time here and we, the Indiana State Police will do a criminal case on it, take al the leads you have and follow up on them until exhausted but generally, once LEO is involved and the mope learns of it, they either refund the money with it was a mistake or the AG will go after them. You can get help on this and sounds like you have your paper trail, and print all conversations you have like PM's and the ones the wife did as well and the stuff on the other sites too.

Good luck on this one. God don't like ugly and it will come back on home 100 fold!

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Old 06-25-2010, 08:35 PM   #11
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I agree with chozn4service. Contact the Arizona Attorney General's office (there are probably online forms to initiate a complaint) as well as the local PD wherever this slug lives. Then send the guy an 'official looking' letter stating that he has X days to make it right before you turn him in to the PD and AG. Just receiving the letter, which shows that you have all his personal info, and name dropping the local authorities, should scare him into action.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:35 PM   #12
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In addition, you being in LA and the crime taken place in AZ so to speak, AZ may not allow for it to be reported over the phone here in Indiana we wouldn't. We would refer you to the AG's office in AZ about reporting it, give them the info since each AG has a Consumer Protection Division. So get on the Internet and here is the AZ consumer fraud link http://www.azag.gov/consumer/ and go from there. If there is anything else you need, hit me up in a PM but continue to put this Mudder Focker on blast!

and here is the online file a complaint: http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintformintro.html
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:52 PM   #13
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Have you contacted your bank?
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:53 PM   #14
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I wonder why his account is not suspended? In addition on previous forums the Mods could keep him from re-registering somehow..ISP address or something? If I buy from members I try to do business with those that have been around a while or would not mind showing the items to a friend that I happened to have about 45 minutes away...usually weeds out the scammers. Good luck with getting your money back, hopefully he will do the right thing.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:53 PM   #15
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I wonder why his account is not suspended? In addition on previous forums the Mods could keep him from re-registering somehow..ISP address or something?
An IP ban.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:53 PM   #16
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:54 PM   #17
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Man, there is nothing good about good people getting scammed. Sigh, I feel very bad for you bro. When people say "I need to sell it fast, I'm leaving for Iraq next week"... "I need the cash asap, this is a must go"

Anything along those lines, are typical scam lines. And Honestly, I just can't stand these kind of people... learn to get a job please. As for your money, imo... it's gone. Call it a major lesson. Good scammers would have even earned your trust for a LONG time... those are even better scammers. Trust your instinct from now on... when something is too good to be true, it probably isn't.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:55 PM   #18
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That's the sad thing about buying online, I've gone through a similar situation where the kid stopped responding, but after a few days he said he shipped the item and i got it, but in your case he told your wife it's still for sale so he's scamming you. Anyways i hope you get your $1,000 back and if i was anywhere close to AZ i would definitely pay him a visit for you. And also that's why i don't like PayPal because most of the time they won't do anything to help you get your money back they just say that they're safe, but in the end they aren't.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:48 PM   #19
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Here is the link to the arizona camaro5 area local car club. Post your info there, and include the city where the loser lives and maybe depending on where he lives maybe we can pay him a visit!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/group.php?groupid=53
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:57 PM   #20
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Well, he almost got me yesterday.

I had a WTB ad on the forum looking for rear wheels. He offered to sell me a set of rear take-off wheels for my car for $400.

I paypalled him the money, which he refunded to me, asking me to cover the 3% or send the money to him as a gift. I was a little suspicious, so I sent him $415 ( $15 extra to cover the 3%), which he sent as a refund, saying he had sold the wheels locally. I got suspicious, but since he didn't really do anything bad to me, I was letting it go until I read this.

I guess I got lucky being suspicious, because if you send money through paypal as a gift, well, it's a gift. If it's a purchase, paypal and your credit card offer some protection. If you sent the money using your charge card, maybe they can help?

Good luck. PM me if I can help.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:00 AM   #21
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First thing tomorrow morning go into your bank and tell them exactly what happened here. Give them all of the information you have.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:01 AM   #22
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I hope you used a credit card, if you did, you should be good wether it was sent as a gift or not. Paypal will be no help, as you sent it as a gift. It sucks.

Hope you can get it all solved!
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:05 AM   #23
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Man, there is nothing good about good people getting scammed. Sigh, I feel very bad for you bro. When people say "I need to sell it fast, I'm leaving for Iraq next week"... "I need the cash asap, this is a must go"

Anything along those lines, are typical scam lines. And Honestly, I just can't stand these kind of people... learn to get a job please. As for your money, imo... it's gone. Call it a major lesson. Good scammers would have even earned your trust for a LONG time... those are even better scammers. Trust your instinct from now on... when something is too good to be true, it probably isn't.
I hate when folks use the wars or military personnel as a way to scam people...
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:08 AM   #24
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Sucks that happened to you buddy. I buy and sell a lot of stuff online including through forums. I have always had some rules i follow when purchasing things on forums.

1) Check the users join date. If they have not been around for more than 6 months dont even consider it. In this case he joined on 06/17/10. Thats a HUGE red flag.

2) Post count. Make sure his post count is over 300-400 posts. That shows that he has contributed to the forum and allows you to see what type of person they are. "Do they start arguements alot, contribute valuable information, post any pictures of there ride, met any other forum members in real life".

3) Only send money to verified paypal accounts.

4) If not using paypal use a credit card as its alot easier to file claims and get your money back.

5) Get a phone # and request to talk to him before purchasing. This gives you a phone # that can be tied to an address unless its a boost mobile.

6) Get a picture of the item and have them write there forum name on a piece of paper and stick it in front of the item your purchasing.

I know those are all pretty common sense things but you need to make sure to stick to them.

Hope you get it resolved. Might want to try and goto your bank right away and file a claim. See what happens. It cant hurt to try at least.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:26 AM   #25
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You may want to consider approahing the FEDS. This could be considered interstate wire fraud, because he used electronic means to scam you.

God Lord, I hate that crap!
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