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Old 07-15-2010, 11:22 AM   #226
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Sounds good thanks for keeping us all posted
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:48 AM   #227
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being one of sts's turbos i thought u would hear the whistle a whole lot more.
I sould like it to be a sleeper. So you can surprise people

BTW is that the stock exhaust? I'm getting interested in this. Never drive a car with turbo, sound real nice. And what's is estimate of total cost you spent on. Seem like its getting close to SS price, then again the car is 300Lbs lighter and more HP.
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:19 AM   #228
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I sould like it to be a sleeper. So you can surprise people

BTW is that the stock exhaust? I'm getting interested in this. Never drive a car with turbo, sound real nice. And what's is estimate of total cost you spent on. Seem like its getting close to SS price, then again the car is 300Lbs lighter and more HP.
boost is your friend

having once had a 6.0 V8 car and another one that boosted to 18lbs, both rock, but driving dynamics are pretty different between the two. You have to prepare and understand power doesnt come on as quickly as in a NA with high displacement. However upping your hp with the turn of a dial (or push of a button if your running Greddy's steering wheel mounted push-button boost controller) is a great thing. I started off in the import crowd and sorta backed my way in to domestics, so I've always been a fan of FI, so having the opportunity to mesh a potent v6 with boost seems ...well, I think we havent covered but just the tip of the iceberg as far as the potential we'll have with these cars. Vendor support will be key, but 6mo-1yr from now these v6's will be putting some great numbers down. You watch
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:01 PM   #229
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i cant wait till I order my turbo in two more weeks. I might end up getting dyno for all of you before Z does lol. If mine gets 400 at the wheels like they said, i will be more then satisfied.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:31 PM   #230
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Oh man, how did I miss this!!! Well thanks for mentioning me, Z Madness. I was waiting for a PM from you, but a full thread is much better.

Car looks and sounds sweet! Definitely more power in there. I'm really excited to see any type of (unbiased) numbers out of it. If it's $800 to ship to a drag strip, I'll put up $100 if others can make up the rest.
Water/Alky injection sounds like the real ticket for this setup. If you could touch 8 psi without much knock retard that thing will flat out scream.

Make a camera mount and point it to the speedo and boost gauge if you can, that'll tell us a lot.

Again, sweet car, sweet vid. I wish I had caught this thread sooner.
I really want the kit! Too bad mine is only my DD, my wife won't let me go that far (even though I can buy it outright right now... DOH)
I haven't been on here much lately because I've been busy (of course working) and designing and ordering more parts for my 35psi capable turbo V6 Fiero (what Z28? Hell... find me a ZR1! ). The Camaro only gets minor love for now, but damn it's still a great car.

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Old 07-18-2010, 01:15 AM   #231
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Nice to see you back. I will work on a mount. I just did the data logs for Trifecta to work out the tune. I had ordered some NGK Iridiums (thanks ROD1) since STS sent me the wrong ones. Put them in last night and did the logging today. Also found out that I have the speed limiter at 118mph. That sucked. Anyway, the water/meth injection will be a little while. STS is putting together the kit and will send out when ready. However, I plan to DYNO the car this coming week, Friday or Saturday I hope. I went to check out a shop on Friday but they had the DYNO set-up where the rear of the car is near the back of the shop so according to STS, this will not be good for the rear intake. I've got a couple other places in mind so once I hear back from Trifecta, I can schedule the run. Check back on Saturday!
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Old 07-18-2010, 08:04 AM   #232
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I haven't been on here much lately because I've been busy (of course working) and designing and ordering more parts for my 35psi capable turbo V6 Fiero
New thread demanded in "other cars forum thread". Redirect posted here! I really want to see this. Way cool. You do anything with the suspension?
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Old 07-18-2010, 09:36 AM   #233
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I cant wait till I get mine so I can see what times on the track these cars can get.
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:16 PM   #234
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Keep up the good work Z madness, I love that Cyber gray and all the cosmetic mods you done to it. Love that quiet turbo sound. Can't even hear it in side the cabin, which is good if i'm cursing listen to music. Have you had any heat problem? my friend car over heat if he drive over certain miles. That's what I'm worry about if i put this in my car, and drive from NC to FL.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:06 PM   #235
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Keep up the good work Z madness, I love that Cyber gray and all the cosmetic mods you done to it. Love that quiet turbo sound. Can't even hear it in side the cabin, which is good if i'm cursing listen to music. Have you had any heat problem? my friend car over heat if he drive over certain miles. That's what I'm worry about if i put this in my car, and drive from NC to FL.
Since the turbo isn't in the engine bay, heat should not be an issue...
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:11 PM   #237
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Since the turbo isn't in the engine bay, heat should not be an issue...
Actually, its pretty loud in the cabin. Particularly the oil pump. At idle, the oil pump is very noticeable. When driving, the turbo is quite noticible from in the car, particularly the spooling and the wastegate but its actually pretty cool. My stereo has been pretty much off while I am still in the test and tune process, but I don't think you would mind hearing that turbo spooling under load!

And I agree with SCRMING, heat not an issue since Turbo is in the rear. We don't have FAR to drive on the island but do spend a bit of time in stop and go traffic. Plan to do an around the island cruise on Sunday so will let you know if heat is an issue. If you are driving on the freeway between NC and FL, can't see heat from the Turbo as an issue unless you are boosting at 7 psi the whole way, but then you probably have other "heat" issues to worry about.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:33 PM   #238
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:27 PM   #239
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New thread demanded in "other cars forum thread". Redirect posted here! I really want to see this. Way cool. You do anything with the suspension?
Suspension? Hell yes. That and everything else.
Ask and ye shall receive...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96495

Z, any updates? How's she runnin'?
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Suspension? Hell yes. That and everything else.
Ask and ye shall receive...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96495

Z, any updates? How's she runnin'?
Car is running great so far. Did the data logs and got the fine tune. Sent more data logs back and waiting to see if everything is okay. Scheduled a dyno for Saturday and plan to do an around the island cruise on Sunday so I'll try to update before Monday.

Wow, don't see many Fiero's around. Will be watching that build too. Hurry up so you can start on the Camaro!
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:01 PM   #241
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Dyno Run Completed

Here's the Dyno from today. I was hoping for more but I found out that my boost gauge isn't accurate (Autometer) and my peak boost was just under 5 psi. and was not steady. I will be looking into a boost controller and meth kit soon. At least its at V-8 power. The guy that did my Dyno previously did a V-8 and said it was about the same with a CAI and exhaust. He also commented that my set-up right now is very conservative/safe so there is room for more. He game me some suggestions but I'll see what STS and Trifecta has to say. Note that STS did say to expect 100-125 rwhp so I am within that range. Anyway, going to play with the car for the rest of the weekend. Enjoy.

For those that care, Temp was 98 degrees, Barometric was 30.1 and Humidity was 43.5.
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Thanks Andro! Not done yet on getting more power!
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Nice numbers...........Z
Z ? On the speed limiter...I just did the data logs for Trifecta to work out the tune. I had ordered some NGK Iridiums (thanks ROD1) since STS sent me the wrong ones. Put them in last night and did the logging today. Also found out that I have the speed limiter at 118mph. That sucked

Didn't Vince tune this out? Thought it would be 155... On my dyno run my car shut down at 120 before the tune, so far I didn't get it run on the dyno again after the tune, but I was told that it could be tuned out.

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Sweet! Not too shabby. It's good that you had an SS's run to compare to.

Expect higher numbers in cooler weather, even with SAE correction. Your IC will be more efficient at cooler temps, more so than the correction factor counts for. Turbos LOVE cooler weather.

There's more WOT tuning needed to be done for sure, looking at the graph. One step at a time!
You can definitely squeeze more power out of the current setup from what it sounds like, but I'm waiting for those meth injection results.
Sounds like it should be a solid 12-second car as is.
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Nice numbers...........Z
Z ? On the speed limiter...I just did the data logs for Trifecta to work out the tune. I had ordered some NGK Iridiums (thanks ROD1) since STS sent me the wrong ones. Put them in last night and did the logging today. Also found out that I have the speed limiter at 118mph. That sucked

Didn't Vince tune this out? Thought it would be 155... On my dyno run my car shut down at 120 before the tune, so far I didn't get it run on the dyno again after the tune, but I was told that it could be tuned out.

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Yes, he was able to turn it off. I guess the "base" tune he sends doesn't turn it off but he confirmed that on the re-tune, he turned off the speed limited but left the rev limiter at 7000, which was fine with me. But, I have not been able to get the car above 120 since he did the tune. But I believe if Vince says its off, it will be off. I will post if I ever find out otherwise (not much opportunities on the roads here in Hawaii to get 120+ safely).

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Agree, my goal is > 400 rwhp, unless she blows up.....then I would just drop in an LS7. lol.
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Sweet! Not too shabby. It's good that you had an SS's run to compare to.

Expect higher numbers in cooler weather, even with SAE correction. Your IC will be more efficient at cooler temps, more so than the correction factor counts for. Turbos LOVE cooler weather.

There's more WOT tuning needed to be done for sure, looking at the graph. One step at a time!
You can definitely squeeze more power out of the current setup from what it sounds like, but I'm waiting for those meth injection results.
Sounds like it should be a solid 12-second car as is.
I agree with the above. Looking at the graph, theres still some tuning left to be done. Try to dyno when temps are low, and early in the morning before it gets so humid out. your numbers will look better then. Very nice though, congrats
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No need to re-dyno just to get better #'s. Your results are real world and good for a safe tune. The best tunes are done on the street because that's where you drive. Dyno #'s are just a reference. I've seen big # dyno queens totally fail at the track.
Nice job. It's been nice visiting your Island...but I miss my car...lol
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