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Old 11-02-2008, 01:13 AM   #1
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#1 Car alarm system???

Can someone who is familiar with quality of car alarm systems please give me some ideas of which ones to look at? My 4th gen was stolen and stripped last week and I DO NOT want that happening to my new camaro...thanks in advance. And could you please give explanation to what makes it better than others?
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:38 AM   #2
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Can someone who is familiar with quality of car alarm systems please give me some ideas of which ones to look at? My 4th gen was stolen and stripped last week and I DO NOT want that happening to my new camaro...thanks in advance. And could you please give explanation to what makes it better than others?
Sorry to hear about your car, what a nightmare. I am going to add this in instead of starting another alarm thread. I look at the nice 20" rims on this car and I just get nervous about them getting stolen. Is there a factory alarm available as well-or maybe a dealer installed option? I don't see how you could go aftermarket without making the key fob buttons useless. I know the onstar and passkey will help keep it from getting stolen but I like the idea of some extra protection from an audible alarm.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:04 PM   #3
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:14 PM   #4
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The '10 Camaro is standard with the PASSKEY III system. I dont know if this comes with an audible alarm, but it makes the car as a whole practically unstealable.

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Old 11-02-2008, 08:01 PM   #5
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Best alarm I've had that worked well was Clifford. But, its been a couple of years since I've bought an alarm. You will have a new fob, but there is no way around that. Aftermarket alarms are way better than the factory ones. The factory alarms are usually pretty basic. Hope this helps.
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:35 PM   #6
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^Yeah that is what I have heard, but the factory one for the Camaro is apparently very good for a factory system, so is it worth it to spend the money to upgrade to a slightly better security system?
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:39 PM   #7
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I couln't find anything on upgrading factory alarms anywhere,but i will keep trying.
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #8
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:52 PM   #9
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i've seen where these can be rigged go off with the alarm



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Old 11-02-2008, 11:45 PM   #10
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:28 PM   #12
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Go with LO Jack-- Best Vehicle Recovery System in the World---I'll have mine installed before the maro leaves the dealership--- I've got it on all of my cars--- Price -- Anywhere from $400.00 to $600.00 depending on what your dealership wants to charge you--Ask TAG what he thinks of LO JACK ---
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:57 PM   #13
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Go with LO Jack-- Best Vehicle Recovery System in the World---I'll have mine installed before the maro leaves the dealership--- I've got it on all of my cars--- Price -- Anywhere from $400.00 to $600.00 depending on what your dealership wants to charge you--Ask TAG what he thinks of LO JACK ---
TAG, Care to reply to this and give me your .02 on Lo Jack?
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:14 PM   #14
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I have a Viper alarm system, works pretty good, lots of settings you can change.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:00 PM   #15
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Im primarily concerned with the whole hot wiring problem. Is this new Passkey system gonna prevent d*ckheads from hot wiring and driving off with my car this time?
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:54 AM   #16
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:50 AM   #17
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Keeping Onstar will help also. I heard it is pretty hard to turn off and can track the car and shut down the engine.
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Looks pretty cool... I'm going to give it a try. Though I still believe that if someone really wanted your car, and knew what they were doing... not much would stop them from taking it :-/
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Go with LO Jack-- Best Vehicle Recovery System in the World---I'll have mine installed before the maro leaves the dealership--- I've got it on all of my cars--- Price -- Anywhere from $400.00 to $600.00 depending on what your dealership wants to charge you--Ask TAG what he thinks of LO JACK ---
We've gotten cars back with Lo Jack installed in 20 minutes of having the lo jack initiated.
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Lo Jack is great. We just need to have the cars with Lo Jack installed available to find your stolen vehicle. We found a 2002 Z06 a few weeks ago by way of Lo Jack. Only ONE police vehicle had it in the area and he kept giving us directions as he was trying to get closer. So, we all kept our eyes peeled for it and I actually found it in the back parking lot of an apartment complex. It was still in great condition except for the ignition.
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Sure...but I'd say you could defeat it only if you knew it was there. Don't know how you would know it was installed unless you were stealing a car where you knew the owner and knew that the lo jack was there.
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Keeping Onstar will help also. I heard it is pretty hard to turn off and can track the car and shut down the engine.
Onstar does help. You can call them up, have them kill the engine and report it's location to the police. They can't pinpoint like lo jack can. But, they can get you pretty darn close.

There is one alarm that you can install that we talked about years ago here. It's a plug style that you actually have to plug in the deal before starting the car. The plug goes on your key chain and it can be a pain in the ass, but they have NEVER had a single vehicle stolen by by passing their anti theft device.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=alarm

Go to my original thread...there is a link in there too. Basically, the only way your car can be stolen it by having it towed off. Not bad, huh?!!!
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:16 PM   #20
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We've gotten cars back with Lo Jack installed in 20 minutes of having the lo jack initiated.

Lo Jack is great. We just need to have the cars with Lo Jack installed available to find your stolen vehicle. We found a 2002 Z06 a few weeks ago by way of Lo Jack. Only ONE police vehicle had it in the area and he kept giving us directions as he was trying to get closer. So, we all kept our eyes peeled for it and I actually found it in the back parking lot of an apartment complex. It was still in great condition except for the ignition.

Sure...but I'd say you could defeat it only if you knew it was there. Don't know how you would know it was installed unless you were stealing a car where you knew the owner and knew that the lo jack was there.

Onstar does help. You can call them up, have them kill the engine and report it's location to the police. They can't pinpoint like lo jack can. But, they can get you pretty darn close.

There is one alarm that you can install that we talked about years ago here. It's a plug style that you actually have to plug in the deal before starting the car. The plug goes on your key chain and it can be a pain in the ass, but they have NEVER had a single vehicle stolen by by passing their anti theft device.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=alarm

Go to my original thread...there is a link in there too. Basically, the only way your car can be stolen it by having it towed off. Not bad, huh?!!!
True on the Lo Jack. But I've also found a really easy and cheap way to keep your car from getting stolen. Remove the fuel pump relay when you leave the car and plug it back in when you need to drive it. Its not that big of a hassle on some cars where its easily accessible. It doesn't even have to be the fuel pump relay, just some relay that won't allow the car to start. Way cheaper than buying and installing an alarm system.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:32 PM   #21
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True on the Lo Jack. But I've also found a really easy and cheap way to keep your car from getting stolen. Remove the fuel pump relay when you leave the car and plug it back in when you need to drive it. Its not that big of a hassle on some cars where its easily accessible. It doesn't even have to be the fuel pump relay, just some relay that won't allow the car to start. Way cheaper than buying and installing an alarm system.
So how about a battery cutoff? Like how in my 4th gen I relocated the battery to the trunk and I had a battery cut off key. Do you think this could be affective?
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:58 PM   #22
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So how about a battery cutoff? Like how in my 4th gen I relocated the battery to the trunk and I had a battery cut off key. Do you think this could be affective?
Sure...as long as it doesn't kill power to things that need it for memory of settings. It would also kill the keyless entry and the factory security system if you had a main power disconnect. The relay would be a much easier option.
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:14 PM   #23
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True on the Lo Jack. But I've also found a really easy and cheap way to keep your car from getting stolen. Remove the fuel pump relay when you leave the car and plug it back in when you need to drive it. Its not that big of a hassle on some cars where its easily accessible. It doesn't even have to be the fuel pump relay, just some relay that won't allow the car to start. Way cheaper than buying and installing an alarm system.
My Evo came with something similar, there is a relay that replaces the FP relay, that is controlled with a remote. If you push the button once it allows the car to be started that one time. Also allows for up to 10 starts, that can be easily cancelled for valet situations.

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Old 12-02-2008, 09:22 AM   #24
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Heres the deal from someone who actually installs remote starts an alarms. If you can install a remote start, the wiring diagrams we look at basically show us how to bypass the stock anti-theft set up.

There is no best way to go, it really depends on what you want to do. Viper has options to add on such as proximity detectors, piezo sirens, windo mods, GPS tracking and such. Only limitations are how much you want to spend and the limitations of your installer. If there is anyone near Chicago, the Best Buy I work at has one of the 5 MECP Master Level installers in the state of Illinois and there are only 88 total in the country.

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I spent many years installing alarms. For the whole preventing joyriding kids and people looking to steal stuff out of your interior, car alarms are great. However the factory imobilizer is still better, and in the end the people who really are going to steal your car, won't be deterred by an aftermarket alarm.

After all those years doing it I know its not worth it, so I'll stick with the factory stuff and maybe get a lojak as thats the only way to make sure you get your car back.
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