Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-29-2008, 01:16 PM   #1
yotaman96


 
yotaman96's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2000 Trans Am WS6
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, TN
Posts: 2,701
Why the high oil capacity?

Does anyone know why it takes 8.9 qts of oil for the LS3 on this car? Seems like a lot to me. I guess you wouldn't have to worry as much about the pump scavenging when you're in hard turns. That's going to be an expensive oil change especially if using synthetic.
__________________
2010 IOM Camaro 2SS/RS manual trans
Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans
2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins
yotaman96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
headpunter
Not That sad..considering
 
headpunter's Avatar
 
Drives: Man
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about.
Posts: 3,747
Send a message via AIM to headpunter
high performance engines get lots of oil....allows more time to cool the oil while not in engine and makes the oil last longer because it is under stress for shorter amounts of time.
__________________
headpunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 02:15 PM   #3
dieseldave24v
PowerStroke this Ford boy
 
dieseldave24v's Avatar
 
Drives: Like Don Garlits "Big Daddy"
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Richlands/Camp Lejeune NC
Posts: 462
Quote:
Originally Posted by headpunter View Post
high performance engines get lots of oil....allows more time to cool the oil while not in engine and makes the oil last longer because it is under stress for shorter amounts of time.

Headpunter is correct. It actually only takes a few ounces of oil to lubricate the entire engine. Everything beyond that is strictly for cooling. Those few onces of oil would boil and turn to crud in seconds if it stayed in the friction points the whole time.
dieseldave24v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 02:34 PM   #4
Scott@Bjorn3D


 
Scott@Bjorn3D's Avatar
 
Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Eufaula, Alabama
Posts: 6,353
Send a message via MSN to Scott@Bjorn3D
Plus you got the engine oil cooler on both the SS engines. More oil is needed to fill the cooler.
Scott@Bjorn3D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #5
radz28
Petro-sexual
 
radz28's Avatar
 
Drives: Ultra-Grin
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Crapramento, Crapifornia
Posts: 13,057
I think it's easy to forget that oil, just like has been mentioned, probably adds to cooling moreso than lubricity. I've read from sites that test oils and oil additives that engines could actually run for several minutes with no oil in the pan and it's the heat that isn't removed by the flowing oil that kills the engine. I guess they go hand-in-hand, but that would be my guess. I'm thinking they are going to promote this car to be more track-friendly than in the past and since piston squirters probably aren't cheap to have, larger capacity is the better alternative. I don't think even the LSA holds as much oil, but it does have a cooler and squirters.

One thing is for sure: It's not going to be a $35 oil change anymore...
__________________
05 Hummer H2 SUV on OEM Air Ride
Forged 11.1:1 408 LQ4 (K1 crank & rods; Mahle pistons)/CPP LS3 CNC heads/BTR Stage IV LS3 cam and valvetrain/home ported L92 intake manifold/ported 90mm TB/custom Volant CAI/mid-length headers/AFE dual 3" CB/Corvette Servo/el cheapo lift/Cognito UCAs/e'fan conversion/aluminum radiator/Moroso catchcan/HPTuners by me/LED exterior lighting/Pioneer AVH-5600BHS/Pioneer GM-9601/2-Pioneer TS-W310D4/Obcon Labyrinth dual-12 box/lots of other stuff
radz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 03:15 PM   #6
Fast1
 
Fast1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Summit White SS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 167
For this kind of motor, it sounds perfect.
Fast1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
Hesh
 
Hesh's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro Vin 34334
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 566
Nope no cheap oil changes. Since they will want you to use Mobil 1 as the prefered oil. Dont know if its true about voiding warranty if anything else is used. I personally like Castrol syntec but hey they are both synthetic. Royal Purple would be a good choice as well.
Hesh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2008, 10:36 PM   #8
Nexus6
More human than human
 
Nexus6's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS
Join Date: May 2008
Location: The mouth of hell
Posts: 1,890
im using Amsoil
Nexus6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 12:03 AM   #9
zebra
just can't seem to leave
 
zebra's Avatar
 
Drives: your mom wild!!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: cold & windy
Posts: 10,521
is it alright to break-in these new engines on synthetic? i read that older engines would screw up the rings unless you used conventional.
__________________
zebra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 12:08 AM   #10
SS4EVER
Camaro Convert...
 
Drives: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Metro Detroit, Mi
Posts: 595
Man and I thought my SS Supercharged drank oil by using almost 7 quarts of synthetic oil... The Camaro SS is going to cost alot of coin for an oil change...
__________________
4 life!
Currently Driving: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged
SS4EVER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #11
headpunter
Not That sad..considering
 
headpunter's Avatar
 
Drives: Man
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about.
Posts: 3,747
Send a message via AIM to headpunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by zebra View Post
is it alright to break-in these new engines on synthetic? i read that older engines would screw up the rings unless you used conventional.
they wil be broken in before you get them.....and they come with synthetic so that is a moot point
__________________
headpunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 12:44 AM   #12
Supermans
Camaro & Stang Enthusiast
 
Supermans's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 4,752
Quote:
Originally Posted by headpunter View Post
they wil be broken in before you get them.....and they come with synthetic so that is a moot point
So they will be broken in at the factory before we get them? Even the automatic SS?
__________________
Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266
Supermans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 07:25 AM   #13
Shifty 6
 
Drives: 2010 GTI
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Morton, IL
Posts: 679
What would be so special about the auto, that they would treat it differently from the manual?
Shifty 6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2008, 07:37 AM   #14
TomServo
 
Drives: 2007 Z06
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Swansea IL
Posts: 727
Even with the oil cooler on my Z51 LS2 vette I saw oil temps reach 300 degrees on a cool day after 3 hard laps ar Road America, non Z51 vette's were getting OIL TEMP warnings (on the vette that's 315 degrees then the ECU goes to reduced power).

I did learn from my instructor to up shift into 5th on the long front straight which instantly lowered my oil temps to the 28X range for a full lap.

But I'd hate to think what kind of oil temps I would have reached if I had a couple of less quarts, and I even added the EXTRA quart like the Owner's Manual recommends when tracking.
TomServo is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Synthetic? shroomjohn Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 40 09-18-2008 01:31 PM
The 3,000 Mile Oil Change Myth KILLER74Z28 General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 35 07-20-2008 09:02 PM
Huge offshore oil discovery KILLER74Z28 Off-topic Discussions 36 11-14-2007 06:14 PM
Major U.S. oil source is tapped KILLER74Z28 Off-topic Discussions 32 10-30-2007 09:47 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.