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Old 11-12-2008, 10:29 AM   #76
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I've seen it side by side with Hugger orange and it looks easily reddish next to a real orange color..
And yet it looks easily orangish next to a real red color.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:40 AM   #77
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STOP THE PRESSES....that Camaro at the Miami auto show has power running to it....SOMEONE, for the love of God open a door and snap a picture of the ambient lighting!
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:42 AM   #78
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STOP THE PRESSES....that Camaro at the Miami auto show has power running to it....SOMEONE, for the love of God open a door and snap a picture of the ambient lighting!
I asked and they wouldn't turn it on.. Furthermore they wouldn't open the hood because it had the LS3 in it..
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I don't get it...of course it has the LS3. I hate "autoshows" that don't show anything we haven't already seen.
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:41 PM   #80
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I don't get it...of course it has the LS3. I hate "autoshows" that don't show anything we haven't already seen.
I'm guessing you don't know the story behind that particular red RS???

On the outside, it appears to be a v6 model but it actually has an LS3 in it. Scott ordered it as a v8 show car but it was modified to look like a v6 model when GM decided to push the v6 models instead of the V8. They left the LS3 in it since it would just be sitting on display.

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Old 11-12-2008, 08:42 PM   #81
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I'm guessing you don't know the story behind that particular red RS???

On the outside, it appears to be a v6 model but it actually has an LS3 in it. Scott ordered it as a v8 show car but it was modified to look like a v6 model when GM decided to push the v6 models instead of the V8. They left the LS3 in it since it would just be sitting on display.

Hmmmmm... B4C package anyone???
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:07 PM   #82
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I asked and they wouldn't turn it on.. Furthermore they wouldn't open the hood because it had the LS3 in it..
I was in Miami earlier today and had to stop by the auto show to see the Camaro.

And asked if they would turn on the ambient lighting too, but the reply they gave me was "this is an earlier pre production car, and it does not have the ambient lighting in it"
Granted she also was positive that there was going to be a torque gauge in the 4 pack cluster so no telling how reliable her info was :P

Anyway, speaking of the Miami auto show, one of the GM stands had a panel with all of the Chevy colors on it painted on computer mice, got a couple pics of that with IOM on it..
Some with flash, some without, to show how much IOM can play tricks on the camera.

It really is a color that must be seen in person..

Now that i'm 180+ miles from the auto show I realized that it would have been a good idea to get a close up of victory red too, but it's a little late for that lol
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:46 AM   #83
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Ok, for those that have seen it in person, which color is IOM? The reddish non-flash picture or the orangeish flash photo color?

And where is the rally yellow mouse?
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:25 AM   #84
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The Solstice I saw in Indy and the Hummer I see every day look like the picture on the left. Close up flash pictures seem to give IOM a concept orange look that I have never seen with the naked eye, even in bright sunlight.

That might explain the NACE photos, the photographer probably used a high power flash to take those pictures.

I must admit that with flash photography, IOM looks nearly identical to the Camaro concept orange, too bad it looks like tomato soup most of the time.
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:22 AM   #85
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The Solstice I saw in Indy and the Hummer I see every day look like the picture on the left. Close up flash pictures seem to give IOM a concept orange look that I have never seen with the naked eye, even in bright sunlight.

That might explain the NACE photos, the photographer probably used a high power flash to take those pictures.

I must admit that with flash photography, IOM looks nearly identical to the Camaro concept orange, too bad it looks like tomato soup most of the time.
I have to agree with this assessment. Tomato soup is a good description of the IOM I have seen on the solstice and hummer, even in very bright sunlight. It seems artificial flash makes the IOM look like the orange we love, but only for a split second. I guess if you are Paris Hilton getting out of an IOM camaro with dozens of flash bulbs going off at the same time, the color of the car would really look the way I would want my orange to look like. Don't get me wrong, IOM is a pretty color and all those ordering it will be getting what they want. However if you believe the color IOM is going to look like is the color on the right of the cutaway, then you will be disappointed... Notice the Sunburst Orange Metallic in the center doesn't change as drastically with or without the flash. I like that color as well.. The Sunburst Orange is the orange in the middle row under the metallic dark red.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:32 AM   #86
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if you guys were actually paying attention to the photos you wouldve noticed that the reddish color is the one taken with flash. In the orange picture you can clearly see a reflection of the camera without flash. This seems to be consistent with why the bright outdoor photos appears more red.

Hmm... Very interesting
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:07 PM   #87
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Ummm, no the reddish one is more blurry hence no flash...
No blurryness comes from moving the camera - look again, you're wrong

you can clearly see the camera in the orange picture - same place where the camera would be in the red one you see the big @$$ flash reflection - open your eyes
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:09 PM   #88
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No blurryness comes from moving the camera - look again, you're wrong

you can clearly see the camera in the orange picture - same place where the camera would be in the red one you see the flash - open your eyes
I doubt it, the blurriness comes from no flash in my opinion... The one with the flash is on the right and has much more detail, plus all the metallic paint shows up better.. But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, however I did see that display in person and the way the IOM looked in person was red..
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:11 PM   #89
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I doubt it, the blurriness comes from no flash in my opinion... The one with the flash is on the right and has much more detail, plus all the metallic paint shows up better..
Blur doesn't come from lack of light, it comes from an unsteady shot - can't blame the guys for that - not like he had a tripod or anything
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Blur doesn't come from lack of light, it comes from an unsteady shot - can't blame the guys for that - not like he had a tripod or anything
I guess you're right as you can see the reflection of the camera in the shot which I didn't notice before and the flash on the plastic. The artificial lighting in the Miami auto show is so bright that Victory red looks orange under the lighting with no flash.

I do have to point out that the color it looked like in person was still more reddish in nature and not the color on the right... Very odd indeed as I do wish I had a picture of it myself with my camera.. I might go back to the show today and get some pictures..
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:19 PM   #91
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Not sure what to say, to me they looked more orange in person than red, same with the two Solstices i've seen that where outdoors at dealerships.
But the Colorado I've seen at a dealership a few miles from here looks more red than the Solstices did..
Seems to be some variations in the colors that are all supposed to be IOM..

Now, I did not think to look up and see if there where any skylights in the convention center, if there where that could have alot to do with how the IOM looked depending on the time of day etc...


But I also have two pictures of the IOM H3 that was at the show, and to me, again it looked more orange than red.

Granted the Victory red car also looked more orange than red as well, and the GF even asked "is this the Orange you are getting"
Look at the drivers side mirror to see what one had the flash.

Both pictures where taken with an Olympus Stylus 770 SW 7.1 mega pixel point and shoot.
It was set to the anti shake mode, and auto white balance, the only difference in settings where the shutter speed between the flash and non flash, 1/50 without and 1/125 with.

I used photobucket to resize them, so i'm not sure if the all the camera info carried over.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:40 PM   #92
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I guess you're right as you can see the reflection of the camera in the shot which I didn't notice before and the flash on the plastic. The artificial lighting in the Miami auto show is so bright that Victory red looks orange under the lighting with no flash.

I do have to point out that the color it looked like in person was still more reddish in nature and not the color on the right... Very odd indeed as I do wish I had a picture of it myself with my camera.. I might go back to the show today and get some pictures..
That would be awesome! I've got this color on order and am so torn as whether or not to change it... seeing more orange helps



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Not sure what to say, to me they looked more orange in person than red, same with the two Solstices i've seen that where outdoors at dealerships.
But the Colorado I've seen at a dealership a few miles from here looks more red than the Solstices did..
Seems to be some variations in the colors that are all supposed to be IOM..

Now, I did not think to look up and see if there where any skylights in the convention center, if there where that could have alot to do with how the IOM looked depending on the time of day etc...


But I also have two pictures of the IOM H3 that was at the show, and to me, again it looked more orange than red.

Granted the Victory red car also looked more orange than red as well, and the GF even asked "is this the Orange you are getting"
Look at the drivers side mirror to see what one had the flash.

Both pictures where taken with an Olympus Stylus 770 SW 7.1 mega pixel point and shoot.
It was set to the anti shake mode, and auto white balance, the only difference in settings where the shutter speed between the flash and non flash, 1/50 without and 1/125 with.

I used photobucket to resize them, so i'm not sure if the all the camera info carried over.
A bit darker with flash but still orange at least. I wonder if that's the metallic flake that darkens the color up? You would think it'd have the opposite effect (if that is the reason)
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:53 PM   #93
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That would be awesome! I've got this color on order and am so torn as whether or not to change it... seeing more orange helps





A bit darker with flash but still orange at least. I wonder if that's the metallic flake that darkens the color up? You would think it'd have the opposite effect (if that is the reason)
Don't change the IOM as it is a very nice color regardless if it isn't hugger orange or if it looks like hugger orange in certain light....etc..

Hopefully by the time the convertible is released, we shall see the color that was on the concept as an option..
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Yeah. It's quite a red-orange. I like it more than I thought I would, though my favorite orange is still the original Sunset Orange Metallic.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:06 PM   #95
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That's basically the point. I don't really envision myself driving a "blazing orange" car unless it's, say, a '69 Hugger Orange Camaro. I'm just not really an orange person. That said, my favorite "orange" on a car has been the original Sunset Orange Metallic. But everyone's entitled to his or her own opinion.
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Don't change the IOM as it is a very nice color regardless if it isn't hugger orange or if it looks like hugger orange in certain light....etc..

Hopefully by the time the convertible is released, we shall see the color that was on the concept as an option..
Don't care so much that it's hugger orange, just so long as its orange. If it changes to red when it's bright out, I can live with that. Just as long as its orange most of the time, not red
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I DON'T want metalic orange, I want a bright Hugger orange, solid no metalic.
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Don't care so much that it's hugger orange, just so long as its orange. If it changes to red when it's bright out, I can live with that. Just as long as its orange most of the time, not red
As far as I have seen, the car is more reddish all of the time than orange, but I will tell you to go see the color for yourself at one of the many Pontiac or Hummer dealers as it is a popular color on Solstices and Hummer H2 and H3's. Yes it is orange and you can tell the difference next to a pure red car, however it does not look bright orange most of the time. At the auto show, there is heavy lighting that makes even the victory red camaro look orange (even the red SS symbol looks orange in person) so I don't doubt it that IOM looks orange under that lighting. However under the sun outside on a bright day, IOM looks more red than orange. Just letting all of you know to go take a look at the color in person, you might like it or like me you might be disappointed..

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I DON'T want metalic orange, I want a bright Hugger orange, solid no metalic.
I hear you on that one. The 2008 Mustang can be ordered with what they call Grabber Orange which looks real nice. I wish we had that color available..
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but I will tell you to go see the color for yourself at one of the many Pontiac or Hummer dealers as it is a popular color on Solstices and Hummer H2 and H3's.
Just letting all of you know to go take a look at the color in person, you might like it or like me you might be disappointed..
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It may be the metallic flake, or something else in the clearcoat, but as you can tell from the pictures, it just does not show up well on camera.

This is a color that just has to be seen in person, in real daylight.
Once you do, you'll either love it, or hate it.
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Part of that may be the quality of the reduced .jpg files, but it is very much a red-orange when out in the sun. I'll see if I can post the higher-res pictures tonight or tomorrow morning.
Side note- Many digital cameras tend to oversaturate any color that even resembles red.

So I'm sure in person it looks more orange. Still a red-orange, but probably more orange than these pics make it look.
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