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Old 10-02-2010, 02:49 PM   #26
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I have a 6 speed so the 4.33 is the way to go?

Roughly at say 80mph in 6th gear would you be around 2500?

It doesnt make a difference if its superchared correct?

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At 80mph in a M6 equipped SS with 4.33s you will be turning just a tick over 2300rpm. 4.10s run just under 2200rpm at 80mph.

If you are planning on going with forced induction I would recommend going with 4.10 over 4.33. If you plan on going above the 550-600rwhp range I would possibly even dial it back to 3.73.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:16 PM   #27
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:58 PM   #28
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Old 10-17-2010, 02:18 PM   #29
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I have approx. 420+ rwhp., getting cam upgrade that I expect will take me to well over 460rwhp., and then next summer planning up upgrading to a SuperCharger, new clutch, gears and possibly driveshaft.
Hearing about 3.45's to 3.73's (auto), to 4.10's (m6), and now the 4.33's. With these high power upgrades, how does someone determine the best performing / strongest gears to choose? Thanks.
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Old 10-17-2010, 06:57 PM   #30
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I have approx. 420+ rwhp., getting cam upgrade that I expect will take me to well over 460rwhp., and then next summer planning up upgrading to a SuperCharger, new clutch, gears and possibly driveshaft.
Hearing about 3.45's to 3.73's (auto), to 4.10's (m6), and now the 4.33's. With these high power upgrades, how does someone determine the best performing / strongest gears to choose? Thanks.
If you are already looking at the mid 400 range and planning on adding forced induction then I would go with 3.73s. Go lower than that and you are going to start having traction and strength issues.
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If you are already looking at the mid 400 range and planning on adding forced induction then I would go with 3.73s. Go lower than that and you are going to start having traction and strength issues.
Thnaks, for response.
Obvioulsy, 3.73's would be the next ratio from stock, but more specifically why 3.73's instead of 4.10's or the 4.35's?
With that much power, doesn't it make sense to better utilize the RPM's with a larger gear kit vs a smaller gear set.
Additionally, I would be getting them properly dialed in by my tuner, so obvioulsy would be sycronizing speed, tq, rpm's to the new gears. Tires would stay the same for now.
Are the 3.73's stronger than the bigger gears, is that really the deciding factor? I'm reading alot about peeps breaking up their 4.10's with high tq / hp vehicles.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:36 PM   #32
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my question is similiar,

right now i'm pushing over 625RWTQ, i am changing the axels to 1000+ and i was going to upgrade to the 4.33 for a better start. my 60' is right at 1.9 and with the 4.33 i was hoping to get 1.4 or so,

why would i want to go to the 3.73 would that not decrease my RWTQ
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Old 10-18-2010, 03:50 PM   #33
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Thnaks, for response.
Obvioulsy, 3.73's would be the next ratio from stock, but more specifically why 3.73's instead of 4.10's or the 4.35's?
With that much power, doesn't it make sense to better utilize the RPM's with a larger gear kit vs a smaller gear set.
Additionally, I would be getting them properly dialed in by my tuner, so obvioulsy would be sycronizing speed, tq, rpm's to the new gears. Tires would stay the same for now.
Are the 3.73's stronger than the bigger gears, is that really the deciding factor? I'm reading alot about peeps breaking up their 4.10's with high tq / hp vehicles.
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my question is similiar,

right now i'm pushing over 625RWTQ, i am changing the axels to 1000+ and i was going to upgrade to the 4.33 for a better start. my 60' is right at 1.9 and with the 4.33 i was hoping to get 1.4 or so,

why would i want to go to the 3.73 would that not decrease my RWTQ

You guys are in a similar boat. Keep in mind that when I make recommendations here on the forums it is without knowing what your particular setup is (unless you fill me in or are a regular customer) so I have to make a lot of assumptions and play it safe. Generally people drive these cars daily and have focused on building power and don't have the appropriate suspension and supporting mods. For a more hardcore application with the appropriate supporting mods you can go with a more aggressive gear than 3.73 but there are a lot of things to consider. Is one gear set going to cause you to have to make an extra gear change or even shift into over drive where another won't? Do you have the appropriate supporting mods? Can you afford the down time and expense if the more aggressive gears do grenade? These are all questions I can not answer for you.

advfire, 3.73s will not cause you to lose torque. They are more aggressive than stock so you will see an improvement.
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For a more hardcore application with the appropriate supporting mods you can go with a more aggressive gear than 3.73 but there are a lot of things to consider. Is one gear set going to cause you to have to make an extra gear change or even shift into over drive where another won't? Do you have the appropriate supporting mods? Can you afford the down time and expense if the more aggressive gears do grenade? These are all questions I can not answer for you.
I have done some suspension mods; Race springs, sway bars, end-links, chassis brace, strut brace. The next step for me is going to be Pfadt bushings kit (engine, control arms, diff, chassis, and balance bar...). Are these the type of supporting mods you're referring to. I don't mind doing the necessary additional mods if I know what they are.

Basically, looking to maximize on a good match for the the other power upgrades (CAM, CAI, Exhaust, headers, superchargers), to go along with new gears and a new clutch.

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Old 10-19-2010, 05:21 AM   #35
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I have done some suspension mods; Race springs, sway bars, end-links, chassis brace, strut brace. The next step for me is going to be Pfadt bushings kit (engine, control arms, diff, chassis, and balance bar...). Are these the type of supporting mods you're referring to. I don't mind doing the necessary additional mods if I know what they are.

Basically, looking to maximize on a good match for the the other power upgrades (CAM, CAI, Exhaust, headers, superchargers), to go along with new gears and a new clutch.

Feel free to PM me.
It looks like some of the issues with the gears have to do with forces outside their control. You are going to want to take steps to eliminate wheel hop and improve traction. You are on the right track but make sure to take a look at the Pfadt solid sub frame bushings, rear differential bushings, and rear trailing arms. Also you will want to take steps to beef up the rear diff. Ted Jannetty has some good solutions there.

Take a look at your trap speeds and see what you are running as you are coming across the line. You will want to determine how aggressive you can go before you will run out of 4th gear. You don't want to end up in over drive before you cross the line.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:31 PM   #36
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are you guys still doing the 120 rebate?
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:33 AM   #38
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Yes. When the gears and installation kit are added to your shopping cart the discount will automatically be applied.
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By now I would have though there would be a bunch of pictures, and burnouts posted on here.
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By now I would have though there would be a bunch of pictures, and burnouts posted on here.
Not much to take pictures of except maybe rubber marks.
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