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Old 07-02-2010, 08:26 AM   #1
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Are they rims or are they wheels??

This has always bugged me. How did rims come to mean wheels? A rim is a part of a wheel. 22" rims are 22" diameter wheels. Rims are the outer portion of the wheel. For those that do not know, as you will read in this article, rims and wheels are the same thing. basically, the term 'rims' has come to mean fancy wheels, namely the excessively large diameter ones.



http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...and-wheels.htm
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:46 AM   #2
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Agreed. It's like the guys that call 1/4 panels rear fenders- lol
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:57 AM   #3
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Wheels.

Referring to wheels as rims sounds ghetto.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:05 AM   #4
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Agreed. It's like the guys that call 1/4 panels rear fenders- lol
Because originally cars had front and rear fenders and running boards connecting them. Street rods have front and rear fenders when running a full bodied street rod. If you come from a street rod background chances are you still refer to 1/4 panels as "rear fenders".

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Old 07-02-2010, 10:03 AM   #5
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Referring to rims as wheels is nothing new. My dad used to refer to his Enkeis as rims back when I was a little brandito back in the 80's.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:38 AM   #6
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I've referred to them both ways.

Some people see it like this: You have tires and rims. Once they're combined then they are "wheels". I believe PQ once said something similar to this.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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Yup.

These are RIMS............
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These are TIRES............
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:39 AM   #8
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Yup.

These are RIMS............
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These are TIRES............
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These are WHEELS.............
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Thought I remembered you saying that
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:51 PM   #9
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lol, nice illustration PQ!
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:43 PM   #10
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Tires are tires. Wheels are rims. Rims are wheels. Tires are NOT rims nor are they wheels. Tires are "ware" items. Wheels / Rims usually are not "ware" items unless you are doing some serious racing or you just cant seem to miss the really big pot-holes or curbs.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:44 PM   #11
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Old 07-03-2010, 07:22 PM   #12
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I used to work at an aluminum casting plant. We cast "wheels" for GM and Chrysler, we did not cast "rims". In fact, I seem to remember (this was more than 15 years ago), that they told us that "rims" was an incorrect term.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:27 PM   #13
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:40 PM   #14
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I had always said rims but here on the site, I've seen the term wheels more and have more and more lately been referring to them as wheels.

I had never called them wheels before seeing it here on Camaro5!
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:35 AM   #15
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How about the rim of a drinking glass- You don't call a drinking glass a rim.
A wheel is a wheel and the rim is the outer bead/edge.
A wheel is what the tire is mounted on, The rim is the part the tire contacts.
Call it what you want but one is right and one is wrong.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:38 PM   #16
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How about the rim of a drinking glass- You don't call a drinking glass a rim.
A wheel is a wheel and the rim is the outer bead/edge.
A wheel is what the tire is mounted on, The rim is the part the tire contacts.
Call it what you want but one is right and one is wrong.

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Old 07-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #17
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How about the rim of a drinking glass- You don't call a drinking glass a rim.
A wheel is a wheel and the rim is the outer bead/edge.
A wheel is what the tire is mounted on, The rim is the part the tire contacts.
Call it what you want but one is right and one is wrong.
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Yup.

These are RIMS............
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These are TIRES............
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These are WHEELS.............
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Yes. But when they are square what are they ?
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Are they rims or are they wheels??
Is it Tires or Tyres???

That one bugs me, but someone was just probably reading Twain

and on the positive side

a.. "A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling: For example, in Year 1
that useless letter 'c' would be dropped to be replased either by 'k' or
's', and likewise 'x' would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase
in which 'c' would be retained would be the 'ch' formation, which will be
dealt with later. Year 2 might reform 'w' spelling, so that 'which' and
'one' would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish 'y'
replasing it with 'i' and Iear 4 might fiks the 'g/j' anomali wonse and for
all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear
5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing
vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it
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bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais 'ch',
'sh', and 'th' rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl
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Ingliy-spiking werld." -- I don't see the point of spelling a word correctly, and I never did."
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Yes. But when they are square what are they ?
FU**ed up.
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Well my dad still refers to them as Mags sometimes! lol Back in the day Magnesium wheels were all the rage. Still available today but aluminum is the bee's knee's nowadays. The proper name would be wheels but rims were made popular by the rappers to distinguish the high end wheels on their 72 Impala from the steel wheels it came with. At least that's my opinion.
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Magnesium wheels were all the rage.
And still fun on a fire
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Rim (wheel)
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An aluminum alloy wheel
The rim of a wheel is the outer circular design of the metal on which the inside edge of the tire is mounted on vehicles such as automobiles.[1] For example, on a bicycle wheel the rim is a large hoop attached to the outer ends of the spokes of the wheel that holds the tire and tube.
Chariots introduced an iron rim around a wooden wheel in the 1st millennium BC.
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Scratched rim on one-piece wheel. Black residue remaining from where the tire was seated on the "safety profile" rim.
Diameter (effective): distance between the bead seats (for the tire), as measured in the plane of the rim and through the axis of the hub which is or will be attached, or which is integral with the rim.
Width (effective): separation distance between opposed rim flanges.
Type: Depends on the type of vehicle and tire. There are various rim profiles, as well as the number of rim components.
Modern passenger vehicles and tubeless tires typically use one-piece rims with a “safety” rim profile. The safety feature helps keep the tire bead held to the rim under adverse conditions by having a pair of safety humps extending inwardly of the rim toward the other tire bead seat from an outer contoured surface of the rim.[2].
Heavy vehicles and some trucks may have a removable multi-piece rim assembly consisting of a base that mounts to the wheel and axle. They then have either a side ring or a side and lock ring combination. These parts are removable from one side for tire mounting, while the opposite side attached to the base has a fixed flange.
Vehicle performance: Because the rim is where the tire resides on the wheel and the rim supports the tire shape, the dimensions of the rims are a factor in the handling characteristics of an automobile. For example:
Overly wide rims in relation to the tire width for a particular car may result in more vibration and less comfortable ride because the sidewalls of the tire have insufficient curvature to flex properly over rough driving surfaces. Oversized rims will cause the tire to rub when turning.
Overly narrow rims in relation to the tire width may cause poor handling as the tire may distort sideways under fast cornering. On motorcycles, a narrow rim will alter the tire profile, concentrating tire wear in a very small area during cornering, with a smaller contact patch during braking.[3]
On bicycles, the optimum tire width is approximately twice the rim's internal width (e.g. a 35mm tire on a rim with an ETRTO 17mm internal width) or one-and-a-half times the rim's external width.[citation needed] Considerable variation outside this range is safe, but very wide tires on a narrow rim can overstress the rim and damage the tire sidewalls, whereas very narrow tires on a wide rim give a hard ride and can result in a high-pressure tire blowing off.
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Damage to the rim can cause vibration and cause the tire to fail to hold pressure
A standard automotive steel wheel rim is made from a rectangular sheet metal. The metal plate is bent to produce a cylindrical sleeve with the two free edges of the sleeve welded together. At least one cylindrical flow spinning operation is carried out to obtain a given thickness profile of the sleeve — in particular comprising in the zone intended to constitute the outer seat an angle of inclination relative to the axial direction. The sleeve is then shaped to obtain the rims on each side with a radially inner cylindrical wall in the zone of the outer seat and with a radially outer frusto-conical[4] wall inclined at an angle corresponding to the standard inclination of the rim seats. The rim is then calibrated.[5]
To support the cylindrical rim structure, a disc is made by stamping a metal plate. It has to have appropriate holes for the center hub and lugnuts. The radial outer surface of the wheel disk has a cylindrical geometry to fit inside the rim. The rim and wheel disk are assembled by fitting together under the outer seat of the rim and the assembly welded together.[5]
One-piece rim and wheel assemblies (see image) may be obtained by casting or forging.
[edit]Meaning

Decorative wheels are often incorrectly referred to as "rims".[6] This use of the term "rim" is incorrect because it refers to only the outer portion of a wheel (where the tire is mounted), just as the rim of a coffee cup or a meteor crater does not refer to the entire object.
Correct use of rim "inflation” on “increasingly large wheels” in a New York Times article.[7]
[edit]Railroad usage

In railroad usage the conical running surface of the wheels may be called a rim or a tyre.
[edit]References

^ "Rim" as defined by the Dictionary of Automobile Terms, undated, accessed on 2008-06-04.
^ Wheel Rim European Patent 06/06/2007, retrieved on 2008-06-13.
^ Dunlop Tire Tips, undated, retrieved on 2008-06-13.
^ Definition of "frustoconical" in Wiktionary, retrieved on 2008-06-16.
^ a b Vehicle wheel with assembly under the rim seat, US Patent 6935704, Issued on August 30, 2005, retrieved on 2008-06-13.
^ An example of incorrect use of the term “rim” by referring it to mean the entire wheel. Retrieved on 2008-06-13.
^ Walker, Rob. “Donk my ride” The New York Times, June 17, 2007, retrieved on 2008-06-13.
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Chariots introduced an iron rim around a wooden wheel in the 1st millennium BC.
According to this, a tire is a rim.
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