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Old 07-18-2011, 06:32 PM   #1
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Best Headers for your $?

I'm picking up a 2010 SS here in a couple of weeks, and I've been trying to find which headers were the best for the HP/TQ gains. I might just be a failure at research, but I can't seem to find enough dynos to prove which ones have the best gains for their price. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

List of planned mods to include
Cam - undecided
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Headers - At question
High flow cats - undecided
Cat-back exhaust - Cherry bomb extreme, or pacesetter catback
Short throw - undecided

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Old 07-18-2011, 06:59 PM   #2
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Kooks stepped headers...

Really it comes down to if you want American made (as I did).... if you want a reputable headers from a quality company from the USA with cats you will drop around 1000-1200 minimum. Without cats somewhere around 800 min.

My kooks came in around 1100, but I didn't coat them... still the best purchase I have put on my vehicle given the gains.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:04 PM   #3
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For headers made overseas, TSP has a budget set of headers and of course OBX!!!
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:18 PM   #4
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If you're looking for cheap headers go OBX or Pacesetter. They are cheap and offer the most bang for your buck. But, we recomend you invest your money into a header that will last and perform. Go with ARH or Stainless Works. They both make awesome power and have excellent craftsmanship and fitment.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:21 PM   #5
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Id say Texas speed or obx for the money. I'd get a Vararam instead of any other intake. If you had one, you'd agree.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:32 PM   #6
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I plan to go with LG MotorSports.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:38 PM   #7
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:41 PM   #8
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Does anybody have HP/TQ gains from these?
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:44 PM   #9
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Go with Texas sPeed they aren't offering them as budget headers. They are quality headers at a reasonable price.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:47 PM   #10
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Big Flow Headers... are the number one bang for your buck... since they are local to Houston the major shops around here are installing these a lot. We've seen great results on a super looking polished 304.
http://www.bigflowexhaust.com/camaro_2010_exhaust.shtml

...and the price is excellent for what you are getting
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:56 PM   #11
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LG is SPENSIVE guys.


Have a listen to XS Power's full exhaust system:

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Old 07-18-2011, 09:15 PM   #12
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I paid 350$ shipped for my XS power headers, the finish and welds are perfect and compared to a set of Kooks the finish is holding up better! The flanges are very thick, install was easy. I am super happy with them!
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:29 PM   #13
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Have a listen to XS Power's full exhaust system:
I like the woman yelling in the background. lol
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:09 PM   #14
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My xs power headers are a few months old and daily driven, and they still shine way more than 1 day old kooks. By far the best bang for the buck mod I have done to any car I have owned. And because it is a full system it eliminates the restrictive factory connections at the cat. 2 inch primary and 3 inch tubing, no choke points. There are better products but they are alot more.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:16 PM   #15
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DYNATECH, by far best quality and great across the board power gains.
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I like the pricetag for the full system, but aren't there other ones out there that produce much more power? (overall that is)
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:27 PM   #17
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I like the woman yelling in the background. lol
That's the real selling point right there- the reaction they get
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Headers are like shoes. You ask what people recommend, and they are likely gonna say whatever they are using at the time. Most people making the recommendation however do not have first hand experiance with enough brands however to make an actual comparision. Even when someone puts togethor a good set of facts, it still turns into an argument.

We took pictures, and dyno tested a set of Kooks vs. $300 ebay headers, and there was a huge difference in quality. While the peak HP and TQ numbers were similar, there was a large difference under the curve in HP and TQ (8-10 each) without tuning the car. Despite doing three dyno runs with each header, and those power differences being consistantly shown..we still got excuses..like "well if you tuned it, that would go away"...yet had we tuned it..it would be "But you played with the tune..I bet the numbers are cooked".

People may say "Oh..all headers make the same power" to justify buying whatever fits their budget, but our testing has always shown that is not true. There is a difference between a set of well designed, and well made headers, and a set of cheaper value priced headers. 8-9 HP might not sound like much, but considering headers give you 25-40 rwhp..you are really talking 30% plus of the potential gain hinging on which header you buy.

Either way..bottom line is..you either buy a nice, american made set of headers, which will cost over $1000, and you will not leave anything on the table...or you can buy a cheaper set and hope the results and quality are similar.

One other note. I am not sure what it is..but I keep hearing people talk about polished headers and how shiny they are. The reason the US made brands do not do it is because you can't pay an American to do it and have a reasonably priced header. I am not sure why all the imported headers are polished..other than for a little wow factor? A polished header will still turn colors and look ugly after being run. Anyone who does not be believe me..I still have my ebay headers sitting around that were on the car for 3 dyno runs. I can post pictures.
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That's the real selling point right there- the reaction they get
Well I'm going to have 8" glasspacks on it until I replace the full system, so it's going to be loud already. Just want the best performance gains I can get. The tuner is where it's going to get tricky. I want to be able to make 1000 mile trips and lean my fuel out at the same time, so an actual tune seems out of the question.

That $900 is looking like a good start though. ><
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Headers are like shoes. You ask what people recommend, and they are likely gonna say whatever they are using at the time.
Well you seem to have done your own testing and research. So can you suggest to me a good way to go about this? I'm going to put 8" glasspacks on it temporarily/permanently (depending on what I find), a cam (last), and cold air inductions CAI.

Like I said above, when it comes to a tune, I want one that can easily be switched to a lean fuel for highway, so I'd like suggestions for that as well. :P

So far thanks for all the input everyone!!
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Well you seem to have done your own testing and research. So can you suggest to me a good way to go about this? I'm going to put 8" glasspacks on it temporarily/permanently (depending on what I find), a cam (last), and cold air inductions CAI.

Like I said above, when it comes to a tune, I want one that can easily be switched to a lean fuel for highway, so I'd like suggestions for that as well. :P

So far thanks for all the input everyone!!
It all depends on what your priorities are. We have customers who have no trouble spending on name brand quality parts and we have customers who are on a specific budget..and it is a matter of how far they can stretch that budget to get as many mods as possible. If it is bang for the buck as the title implies...you can buy cheap headers, make a custom exhaust, and buy a cam for what just our best header/mid pipe for this car costs. Will it make the same power as say Kooks and a Corsa? It will be in the ballpark, but lower. However, if you are not willing to spend $1000-$1500 on headers, that is irrelevent. If you do buy a cheaper headers..I would recommend sticking with a board sponsor and not going to ebay.
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If you do buy a cheaper headers..I would recommend sticking with a board sponsor and not going to ebay.
Oh I will absolutely do that. It's just which ones. There's just so many brands. I've thought of buying a somewhat cheaper one, then having them powdercoated black, but I have no idea what that would cost yet.
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Well I'm going to have 8" glasspacks on it until I replace the full system, so it's going to be loud already. Just want the best performance gains I can get. The tuner is where it's going to get tricky. I want to be able to make 1000 mile trips and lean my fuel out at the same time, so an actual tune seems out of the question.

That $900 is looking like a good start though. ><
Old school, NICE! Hey those XS Powers go for alot less than that
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Does anybody have HP/TQ gains from these?
Look at my build thread in my sig for OBX. If you have the money though, I would go with Kooks, ARH, or Stainless Works. Also, beware of the major drone while riding on the highway with Longtubes. It will be bad from 1800-2400rpm (thats highway speed range). When I say bad, I mean bad. If this is a concern, I would look at a full exhust system. XS Power is nice for the money. You can get headers with the Doug Thorley Catback from Southwest speed. Zero drone with that catback. Good luck on your choice!!
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