Turbo Vs. Supercharger

[coolhand5599]

Lets start some trouble. What is better Turbo or Supercharger?
And why? I have to admit I have driver a TAFC but I have never had a turbo or blown street car. I will be doing one or the other but i would to see some debate. What would be the hardest on the car?

[MileMAN402]

put this thread in the Super/turbo forum...

but anyways...

a turbo or TT setup will make more boost at lower rpms which will put more strain on the engine there but they will typically make more hp/tq with an overall lower amount of boost

i would want a TT setup on my car but they are usually a lot more $$ too

[speedster]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

Lets start some trouble. What is better Turbo or Supercharger?
And why? I have to admit I have driver a TAFC but I have never had a turbo or blown street car. I will be doing one or the other but i would to see some debate. What would be the hardest on the car?

Please use the search function. There are tons of threads on this topic...

[PQ]

What is boost?

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

Lets start some trouble. What is better Turbo or Supercharger?
And why? I have to admit I have driver a TAFC but I have never had a turbo or blown street car. I will be doing one or the other but i would to see some debate. What would be the hardest on the car?

both will be hard on the car.


the simplest and best answer is...it depends. but a turbo is the best power adder. its free horsepower and it makes the most hp per lb of boost.

a turbo is exhaust driven. a blower is belt driven. the turbo will require more plumbing, thus is usually more difficult to install. tuning can (not always) be a little more troublesome as well.

a good positive displacement blower like a kenne bell or whipple would be a good thing on these cars due to the weight...that being said, a properly sized turbo can easily meet or exceed the torque production of a PD blower too.

so how much do you want to spend...thats the real question.

[LittleMT]

I can't say one is better then the other, but I am a turbo person.....

[axis]

Go into the proper forum section and READ.

[coolhand5599]

I would like to spend no more than 10k. Will that get it done?

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

I would like to spend no more than 10k. Will that get it done?

id advise looking into the forced induction section. as a mustang guy, i dont have a clue to how much parts are for these cars...though what little ive seen its expensive.

remember when you go forced induction its a good idea to get colder plugs, bigger injectors/fuel pump and a QUALITY custom tune.

[blake-b]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

I would like to spend no more than 10k. Will that get it done?

The latest twin turbo systems out all come out to around 10k, give a take a few hundred, when you add in the upgrades. There are numerous vendors in the vendor marketplace with their TT setups for sale...

[mikeSS]

i would like a supercharger set to a low psi for safer on engine and .. a nice everyday driving car... and superchargers are easier all around.. but turbos are for big numbers

[MaroSS]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

I would like to spend no more than 10k. Will that get it done?

Maggie is 6-7k depending on install
Vortech is 6-8k depending on type and install
Kenne Bell is 6-10k depending on IC or LC (Intercooler or Liquid Cool)
T/TT setups cost around 8-10k depending on setup and install. Goodluck!

[axis]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

i would like a supercharger set to a low psi for safer on engine and .. a nice everyday driving car... and superchargers are easier all around.. but turbos are for big numbers

That would be a false statement. PD SC's are harder on the engine than a turbo or Procharger. Insta-tq is nice for roasting tires but it's harder on the engine and drivetrain. This is assuming similar HP outputs. The good thing about turbo's is that you can change boost pressure with a turn of a knob or button on a EBC.

[BADNESS]

Depends what you want out of your car. Twin screw blowers offer nearly instant boost at any rpm the second u mash the throttle. And single turbo set ups usually build power up higher in the rpm range. Twin turbo set ups though offer strong boost from low rpm ranges and then some.

[CAI Inc]

Superchargers take 30-40% of power to turn. A supercharged car producing 500 rwhp is putting roughly the same load on the bottom end as a turbo making 675 rwhp.

[toehead93]

The torque curve of a twin screw supercharger is pretty flat and make lots of torque down low. Procharger types make less low end power but equal top end power. As posted abve a single turbo has less lowend compared to a twin turbo setup. However I'm not familiar enough to compare a twin turbo's bottom end power to a twin screw supdercharger. It does appear that the TT will make more power per pound of boost.

[maxpower5]

as stated in a couple of responses - i would go with a procharger - around $7200 for the kit. you'd add 175 hp at the crank i believe.

ive researched kenne belle and whipple twin screw - although both are top of the line, you'll pay for it too. procharger still adds more hp an torque than any supercharger or single turbo.

good luck!

[axis]

Originally Posted by maxpower5

procharger still adds more hp an torque than any supercharger or single turbo.

good luck!

Are you sure about that? You might want to do a little more research on this statement.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by axis

That would be a false statement. PD SC's are harder on the engine than a turbo or Procharger. Insta-tq is nice for roasting tires but it's harder on the engine and drivetrain. This is assuming similar HP outputs. The good thing about turbo's is that you can change boost pressure with a turn of a knob or button on a EBC.

when i said over all easier. i meant installation and maintenances. but ya turbos are better for the engine.

[phenixdragon]

One thing to also look at is a lot of supercharges now don't push out very much PSI when you aren't stomping on the gas. Such as the new Whipple I think is rated at only 5% power when you are just cruising.

[maxpower5]

Originally Posted by axis

Are you sure about that? You might want to do a little more research on this statement.

i dont post unless im sure

[robertway]

Originally Posted by CAI Inc

Superchargers take 30-40% of power to turn. A supercharged car producing 500 rwhp is putting roughly the same load on the bottom end as a turbo making 675 rwhp.

This statement has got me thinking. My main concern with introducing Forced Induction is a setup that gives me the most power at the same time the best chance the engine will last a really long time. I had kinda settled on a Centri with Meth Injection but have been researching Twin Turbos more and more and a statement like that seems to speak to the efficiency advantages Turbos apparently have.

Too many choices and just one car......

[thekid96]

You must be referring to peak HP. Twin screw and turbos at equal boost will make more power under the curve than a centri every time, and always more torque.

Originally Posted by maxpower5

as stated in a couple of responses - i would go with a procharger - around $7200 for the kit. you'd add 175 hp at the crank i believe.

ive researched kenne belle and whipple twin screw - although both are top of the line, you'll pay for it too. procharger still adds more hp an torque than any supercharger or single turbo.

good luck!

[IPSjeff]

Originally Posted by CAI Inc

Superchargers take 30-40% of power to turn. A supercharged car producing 500 rwhp is putting roughly the same load on the bottom end as a turbo making 675 rwhp.

This.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by coolhand5599

Lets start some trouble. What is better Turbo or Supercharger?
And why? I have to admit I have driver a TAFC but I have never had a turbo or blown street car. I will be doing one or the other but i would to see some debate. What would be the hardest on the car?

Daily Driver?

will you take it to the track?

do you have plans to make big power (1000 hp) down the road?

are you going to keep the stock drive train?

How much power do you want now... how much boost.

Help us by answering these questions and we can give you better information.