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Old 12-30-2010, 05:51 PM   #1293
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Took it in today and they said they had to order an "Air Bag Coil". I'll ask them for the SIR code when I take it back. From the description I'm assuming it's the one in the steering wheel (there's no part number on the service form). I don't think I tweeked that at all when doing the steering wheel R&R. I left the torx bolt in and the wheel came loose with just a little pull. I'll ask them to save the part when they replace it. Stay tuned...

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ya your right, It's behind the steering wheel, it's a coiled up wire inside a plastic ring. The coiled up wires allows the steering wheel to be turned and maintain electrical connection for the SIR system from the coil to the drivers air bag. The code will more likely be an open circuit code. The SIR model does a self test when keyed up and needs to see a certain resistance value to the drivers air bag. usually the wires inside the coil are broken. They are fragile.....Have to make sure coil maintains orientation with the steering column shaft when after removing steering wheel. if rotated and off 360 degrees and then you make a full turn with the steering wheel it will break the wires inside the coil. something else that might help others, I would make sure all connections to steering wheel/airbag are disconnected before pulling the steering wheel bolt, otherwise it's easy to tug on the fragile wires with steering wheel off and trying to disconnect wires. After removing the steering wheel I would hold the coil in place with just enough tape so it can't rotate. and try not to bump it while continuing to remove the dash pad this will also help from damaging the coil.
It doesn't surprise me this has happened during a few installs. It can be a problem if your not familiar with them. if that's pretty much all that happened on your hud install, great job Man!

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Old 12-30-2010, 08:13 PM   #1294
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ya your right, It's behind the steering wheel, it's a coiled up wire inside a plastic ring. The coiled up wires allows the steering wheel to be turned and maintain electrical connection for the SIR system from the coil to the drivers air bag. The code will more likely be an open circuit code. The SIR model does a self test when keyed up and needs to see a certain resistance value to the drivers air bag. usually the wires inside the coil are broken. They are fragile.....Have to make sure coil maintains orientation with the steering column shaft when after removing steering wheel. if rotated and off 360 degrees and then you make a full turn with the steering wheel it will break the wires inside the coil. something else that might help others, I would make sure all connections to steering wheel/airbag are disconnected before pulling the steering wheel bolt, otherwise it's easy to tug on the fragile wires with steering wheel off and trying to disconnect wires. After removing the steering wheel I would hold the coil in place with just enough tape so it can't rotate. and try not to bump it while continuing to remove the dash pad this will also help from damaging the coil.
It doesn't surprise me this has happened during a few installs. It can be a problem if your not familiar with them. if that's pretty much all that happened on your hud install, great job Man!
I read the entire Service Manual section on the SIR AFTER the install. I did read the write up on how to install the coil and the extra notes about orientation. I just don't remember that plastic disc making one revolution. Also my "Service Air Bag" came on as soon as I turned the key on after the install. I had not moved the steering wheel yet. I'll post pics of the damaged part after they replace it. Thanks for all the help along the way.

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:15 AM   #1295
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Took it in today and they said they had to order an "Air Bag Coil". I'll ask them for the SIR code when I take it back. From the description I'm assuming it's the one in the steering wheel (there's no part number on the service form). I don't think I tweeked that at all when doing the steering wheel R&R. I left the torx bolt in and the wheel came loose with just a little pull. I'll ask them to save the part when they replace it. Stay tuned...

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Part number for the SIR coil is 20810972, list price is 37.52, paid 28.64 with tax from a local dealer here in Phoenix. Neat item, has 2 flat ribbon cables inside, as you turn the steering wheel, ribbon cables are unwound from the outer drum onto an inner drum. (Yep, I was the first guy who had to replace the clockspring. Post #1000. It was pretty obvious that I had broke it, since the air bag leads came off with the steering wheel! )

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:51 AM   #1296
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I read the entire Service Manual section on the SIR AFTER the install. I did read the write up on how to install the coil and the extra notes about orientation. I just don't remember that plastic disc making one revolution. Also my "Service Air Bag" came on as soon as I turned the key on after the install. I had not moved the steering wheel yet. I'll post pics of the damaged part after they replace it. Thanks for all the help along the way.

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No problem Don O, glad to help If I can. Sounds like you did things right. maybe it got bumped and broke it...... hard to say.......let me know what the code is when you find out.
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:54 AM   #1297
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Part number for the SIR coil is 20810972, list price is 37.52, paid 28.64 with tax from a local dealer here in Phoenix. Neat item, has 2 flat ribbon cables inside, as you turn the steering wheel, ribbon cables are unwound from the outer drum onto an inner drum. (Yep, I was the first guy who had to replace the clockspring. It was pretty obvious that I had broke it, since the air bag leads came off with the steering wheel! )

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ouch, bummer joe. Not a bad price on the replacement part. I would of thought they were more then 28.00 bucks.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:41 AM   #1298
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For the ppl that want to see the harness here is a pic with the ABL.

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Old 12-31-2010, 11:17 AM   #1299
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Does anyone know the new HUD (HUD display: #92205982 changed to #20936211 ) will work with the curent parts and wire harness?
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:08 PM   #1300
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Does anyone know the new HUD (HUD display: #92205982 changed to #20936211 ) will work with the curent parts and wire harness?
There still have the 2 # out so i have no idea.
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:24 PM   #1301
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Part number for the SIR coil is 20810972, list price is 37.52, paid 28.64 with tax from a local dealer here in Phoenix. Neat item, has 2 flat ribbon cables inside, as you turn the steering wheel, ribbon cables are unwound from the outer drum onto an inner drum. (Yep, I was the first guy who had to replace the clockspring. Post #1000. It was pretty obvious that I had broke it, since the air bag leads came off with the steering wheel! )

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Joe,

I had read your post before taking mine apart. That's exactly why I kept the bolt threaded while pulling on the wheel. I'm curious to see the "damage" on mine.

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:26 PM   #1302
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Another HUD plus I just noticed yesterday after I got the PDIM replaced is that when using the USB drive for playing mp3s, at every song change the artist and tilte come up on the HUD for about 10 seconds. Kinda neat.

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:37 PM   #1303
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Another HUD plus I just noticed yesterday after I got the PDIM replaced is that when using the USB drive for playing mp3s, at every song change the artist and tilte come up on the HUD for about 10 seconds. Kinda neat.

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It will also show when you change radio source's, stations, and display phone numbers when using bluetooth.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:53 PM   #1304
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Just got the HUD, Trim, Switch and Bolts delivered today. Still waiting on that harness though. USPS still hasn't shipped it lol
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:28 PM   #1305
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Dash is out. I'd like to say the hard part is over, but I'm not sure yet...
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:40 PM   #1306
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i have my hud parts, not looking particularly forward to the install, even though i am sure it will be marvelous.
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Dash is out. I'd like to say the hard part is over, but I'm not sure yet...
Do not forget to add the string to that connector for the light sensor first then as you put the dash back and all most all the way foreword pull the connector up and in the opening on top.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:06 PM   #1308
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Noted that from earlier posts, thanks. I'm hoping to get the template lined up correctly. I looked at the pics and think I have it figured out, unless you can give a tip or two on that. Also, I broke the SIR clockspring. The lower part of the dash pad snagged it when the dash was coming out. If I had to do it again, I would have removed it before the dash came out.
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But the good part is it not to bad on the price.

The template is small so you can fine tune it, Make your cut so its in frount of the dash line by a 1/4" or so then cut to the template, and start trimming, you have room to the air duct and to the window.

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