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Old 07-10-2010, 12:15 PM   #51
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i love this show. they are so funny. for all of you guys saying they hate american cars and stereotype alot, you have to realize that this is more of a comedic show than anything lol and not take them soo seriously.
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Old 07-10-2010, 01:07 PM   #52
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i love this show. they are so funny. for all of you guys saying they hate american cars and stereotype alot, you have to realize that this is more of a comedic show than anything lol and not take them soo seriously.
So true, it's part of the British sense of humor. They don't just make fun of the "Yanks," they make fun of other towns in England because they have the wrong football team! Or they don't have the same accent. Jeremy goes on about the Corvette being plastic, but you know deep down he loves it. They have loved the GTO/Monaro, Holden Commodore (Vauxhall VXR8, Pontiac G8), Jeremy even owned a Ford GT.
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Actually...watch the episode where they drive the CTS-V, ZR1 and SRT-8 Challenger from California to the Salt Flats. They start the episode bashing the cars and by the end of if they are raving about it. In fact they sum it up saying "We came to America to see if they finally made a muscle car that is suitable for the civilized world. The answer is no....they made 3"

Similarly look at the episode where he compares the ZR1 to the Audi R8. They say the Audi is the better car (which is impossible to argue against) but that the ZR1 is way more fun and has a soul and passion that the R8 can't match. They even go on to say that if they were picking between the 2 they would get the ZR1 for that very reason.
I saw that Audi episode. It speaks volumes about bias. They like a refined driving experience but prefer the fun of the "primitive" Corvette.
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:16 PM   #54
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Top gear is pretty huch hung up over the fact that the Camaro is really a Holden platform that is sold as a family car in the UK so this WONT be favorable. BUT It sure will be fun :-)
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Their bias is kind of deceiving them, considering their love of Astons and Jags. Both are/were owned by Ford, so just as many "colonials" had their hands on them as brits. Volvo is the same way, and Clarkson loves his XC90. Somehow I'm not sure he will once the Chinese start making them.

I'll definitely watch it. No other show like it. Even the Australian version is lacking somehow.

On another note, I wonder what James has to say about the Dacia Duster this week.
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Old 07-10-2010, 06:21 PM   #56
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from the looks of that picture, if they're supposed to be following the curved lines the camaro is doing a way better job of it than the benz, you can tell by the tire tracks in the water that the benz was in between the lines right before that shot. should be interesting to see though, if only it were on BBC america
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from the looks of that picture, if they're supposed to be following the curved lines the camaro is doing a way better job of it than the benz, you can tell by the tire tracks in the water that the benz was in between the lines right before that shot. should be interesting to see though, if only it were on BBC america
If you look closer, they're both power sliding thru the corner, they weren't trying to stay between the lines. A split second later the Camaro was probably close to the same spot as the Merc
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top gear doesnt necessarily 'hate' american cars, it all depends on what they are comparing it to....

knowing top gear and the presenters.... im pretty sure they will have negative things to say about the car... but they are a world apart from the one we live in.
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if only it were on BBC america
It doesn't need to be, just go on www.finalgear.com and download the show. It will be online to download early Sunday evening in the US. Usually takes about 2 hours after it finishes airing in the UK. It will be Season 15, episode 3. Just make sure you have uTorrent downloaded first. Just download the SD version, as you will have it much faster.
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If you look closer, they're both power sliding thru the corner, they weren't trying to stay between the lines. A split second later the Camaro was probably close to the same spot as the Merc
i know they are power sliding, especially the camaro, but i was saying that IF their goal was to stay between the lines around the curve, then the benz doesn't appear to be doing a good job of it. but you're probably right, the camaro most likely ends up in about the same spot a couple seconds later
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This episode is supposed to be out today. Looks damn interesting...Jeremy can't possibly bash this car
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i hate top gear they always bash muscle cars. all they care about is high end autobahn cars.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:07 PM   #64
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i hate top gear they always bash muscle cars. all they care about is high end autobahn cars.
well they bash them because euro sports cars can handle and be fast as hell, muscle cars are just fast as hell... like whats better on a track a m3 or gt500 lol..... m3
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Old 07-11-2010, 02:08 AM   #65
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I wonder if it will air before or after the World Cup final tomorrow?
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Still should be worth the watch. But come on, the show IS funny
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I wonder if it will air before or after the World Cup final tomorrow?
Smack bang in the middle of it, 8pm UK time. I'll be streaming it live via my UK VPN so I can watch it in the UAE.
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Old 07-11-2010, 03:54 AM   #68
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well they bash them because euro sports cars can handle and be fast as hell, muscle cars are just fast as hell... like whats better on a track a m3 or gt500 lol..... m3
I dont know, my Camaro holds up just fine with turns. Euro cars are trash... sorry. All they are is an engine wrapped in paper (might as well be when you hit a tree, wall, or another car because you're screwed). I will give the Germans a +1 for most of their Volkswagen models as they're pretty damn sturdy. The rest are garbage.

Bottomline... I wouldn't rule out American muscle at all in any department.
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:03 AM   #69
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i hate top gear they always bash muscle cars. all they care about is high end autobahn cars.
Jeremy admitted to loving the Challenger, Cadillac, and the Corvette.
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I dont know, my Camaro holds up just fine with turns. Euro cars are trash... sorry. All they are is an engine wrapped in paper (might as well be when you hit a tree, wall, or another car because you're screwed). I will give the Germans a +1 for most of their Volkswagen models as they're pretty damn sturdy. The rest are garbage.

Bottomline... I wouldn't rule out American muscle at all in any department.

Comon Dude, I LOVE American muscle. Nothing can come close in my opinion. But you can't honestly say that Beemers, Mercs, Audi's, Porsche's..etc are trash?! I mean I know they're expensive..but COME ON! lol
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I dont know, my Camaro holds up just fine with turns. Euro cars are trash... sorry. All they are is an engine wrapped in paper (might as well be when you hit a tree, wall, or another car because you're screwed). I will give the Germans a +1 for most of their Volkswagen models as they're pretty damn sturdy. The rest are garbage.

Bottomline... I wouldn't rule out American muscle at all in any department.

I'm sorry but that is a horrendously ignorant statement. Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of American cars, but really? You're telling me you think a Porsche is garbage? I find that hard to believe.
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This comparison can't be worse than what they did with the Mustang when they raced it against a horse around a circular track and the horse won. lol..
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Euros are by no means "trash"!. They do cost more but, you get what you pay for "in most cases'. I LOVE my Camaro but my stock M5 will still outrun and out-handle it any day of the week. We have made great strides to CLOSE the gap between our interior, design and handling in regards to the German auto industry. Not there yet though...
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I dont know, my Camaro holds up just fine with turns. Euro cars are trash... sorry. All they are is an engine wrapped in paper (might as well be when you hit a tree, wall, or another car because you're screwed). I will give the Germans a +1 for most of their Volkswagen models as they're pretty damn sturdy. The rest are garbage.

Bottomline... I wouldn't rule out American muscle at all in any department.
Well, now that I know you don't what the hell you are talking about I can just go ahead and ignore you...
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I dont know, my Camaro holds up just fine with turns. Euro cars are trash... sorry. All they are is an engine wrapped in paper (might as well be when you hit a tree, wall, or another car because you're screwed). I will give the Germans a +1 for most of their Volkswagen models as they're pretty damn sturdy. The rest are garbage.

Bottomline... I wouldn't rule out American muscle at all in any department.
I disagree.. Euro cars are NOT engine wrapped in paper. Japanese cars are mostly paper. Thats what makes them so fuel efficient, because they are so light... and yet again, we are still talking about the price range of each car. But I tend to think I range price to rigidity ratio from Euro Cars, then AMERICAN cars, THEN Japanese cars.

But then again, that's just my thoughts... But yes, American Muscle shouldn't be ruled out =)
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