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Old 07-09-2010, 06:52 PM   #1
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Do I want a Hurst short throw?

Finally putting my order together: Yellow 2SS/RS with a manual trans. Been waiting a year for HUD

My question: I've driven stick trucks and semis all my life but never a muscle car, so i don't know what a "short throw" shifter feels like. Is the shift pattern just closer together as the name implies? If that's the case, should i go with the standard shifter in the camaro since i'm used to trucks with long "throws"?
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Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:14 PM   #3
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Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:17 PM   #4
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Thanks that's very good info. I'll definitely NOT put it on my order, and get an aftermarket later if i want.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:38 PM   #5
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:40 PM   #6
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Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.

Listen to this man he knows what he's talking about. No way i could ever go back to the factory one after having the short throw for several months now.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:51 PM   #7
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Get the Hurst from the factory. Unless Hurst changed their design, the one they deliver to GM has been modified to meet OEM specifications.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:51 PM   #8
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You should definitely consider the MGW shifter. Do some searches here to find out why. High quality, no noise, and a total shifter replacement. I just got one and hope to have it installed this week or next week.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:53 PM   #9
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agree on the MGW...a Real nice piece of craftmenship..a true short throw..
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You should definitely consider the MGW shifter. Do some searches here to find out why. High quality, no noise, and a total shifter replacement. I just got one and hope to have it installed this week or next week.
You'll love it! It's ever so slightly tight at first but it was designed that way. Give it about 150 miles to break in. Once you do you'll kick yourself for not getting in the car sooner.

Which knob did you get?

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agree on the MGW...a Real nice piece of craftmenship..a true short throw..
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:22 PM   #11
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the Barton short-throw shifter also is very good stuff. and a lot cheaper also.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:28 PM   #12
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I had the hurst and replaced it with the Barton. Installed the MGW in a few cars. It is a good shifter. The problem I have with it is it is a housing held together by pins and set screws. Great to begin with then loosens as the unit gets broken-in. The GM main structure is cast and the Barton unit that fits in will not change under environmental conditions. IMHO !
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:41 PM   #13
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isnt the hurst the one that "clicks" every time you change gears? i wouldnt like it making that noise every time i switch gears
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Caverman, I am going to keep the stock shift knob. I was thinking of the round retro ball, but I really like the stock one.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:52 PM   #15
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there are about a 1/2 dozen aftermarket shifters that would be more desirable than the hurst. Not that the hurst is a bad shifter, just that the others are better.

BTW, I have the MTI and love it!
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Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different opinions on which short throw is best. I have the Hurst and it's unbelievable! I'll tell you if you haven't driven the stock shifter you'll be surprised at how good it is to start. Then when you install a short throw shifter it's insane the difference. It's a must have.
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My MGW arrived today

Now time to read up, install and then report back. Looks like a supurb kit.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:53 PM   #19
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I had the Hurst ordered on my 2011 1SS but took it off the build order and it went straight to a production status. The MGW is looking like the way to go but I will do more research on options. Word is that the Hurst shifter is a go ahead to be installed in production cars in Late August!!! This is supposedly an entire shifter unit not a shifter handle like the aftermarket version.
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I love my Hurst shifter....works and looks great!
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Ive tested 8 or 9 including the Hurst and MGW, and Im actually liking the Barton best of all.
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I kept the OE Knob

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Isn't the factory Hurst shifter different than the aftermarket one?
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Hurst ordered and worth the wait!!! Order goes in on the 19th when they return to production.
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