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Old 07-12-2010, 10:39 AM   #171
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Does anyone know when this was filmed???? I know they really dislike american cars..... other than hammond. I wonder what the specs on that Camaro were and when it was filmed. When they reviewed the GT500 (flame suit on =( ) It was a pre-production model with No SVT tuned suspension, no brembos, the wrong crank damper and intake manifold. It was basically a mustang GT with the 5.4L in it. Top Gear is a bit sketchy but the cineamatography is great and it is very entertaining.
The Show is for entertainment and the hosts are all actually journalists. The show also often gets pre-production models for filming purposes and the models are not quite up to par.

As stated above things they changed on the GT500 for production were,

New crank damper (half the weight and size)
added brembos
Added tuned suspension
Changed intake manifold (wasn't getting enough air to the S/C)
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Now for the Camaro didn't they re- flash the computer in the l99's or something???

and one more thing, the AMG 0-60 4.5 seconds (Camaro is similiar)...blah blah blah
you have to pay attention to the word use they said the AMG is faster i.e. Top speed, but they failed to mention who was quicker I mean if they line them up in a straightline I am sure it would be a great race
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:43 AM   #172
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Not unexpected, but still entertaining I'm not sure how apples-to-apples that even was, but whatever. Still my favorite show.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:10 AM   #173
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The review wasn't so bad, the comparison was a good thing, so it could be hold agains a higher standard manufacturer and a better car but it's when they gave the time away 1:27.9 they all started to laught like it was a big joke...sad. :(
When you look the the Power lap board the Camaro is on top of a lot of "better cars" and more expensive ones... and the ones it should be compared in it's category.

Here is the POwer lap board:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/show/powerlaps.shtml
Thanks for the list, i was looking for this. Not bad considering we beat out a m3, sti, evo, and 911 turbo. I would of thought those could have took us in a track course comparing stock to stock.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:11 AM   #174
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:11 AM   #175
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I hear Adam Corolla wants to do an American version of Top Gear. I dare say it would be better.
If left to enthusiasts and out of the hands of "journalists".
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:13 AM   #176
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what a funny video they used a E63 in stead of a C63 because camaro would spank the shit out of the C63 lol the E63 is more like a CTS-V they just cant have an American car beat a Euro car it is like comparing a camaro aganst an M5 and not the M3 i have ran an M3 and beat it this video is
The Camaro does not beat a C63 off the line or in the 1/4 mile and that's FACT.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:19 AM   #177
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I hear Adam Corolla wants to do an American version of Top Gear. I dare say it would be better.
If left to enthusiasts and out of the hands of "journalists".
On that topic...

Do you think it would be a completely different show? What I mean is America is a place where the middle class really does rule supreme. Being filthy rich is not necessarily a good thing here in the States. I live in a small town, but of the millionaires I know, the majority drive American sports cars, such as Corvettes, or even Shelby Mustangs or SS Camaros. I even have a cousin in the insurance business in LA with more money than he can count, and he just purchased a used Chevy Tahoe. Not to say he is cheap, because he does have old classic American cars in his garage.

Maybe it's just from my perspective, but the rich in America don't really desire to look like European royalty. We like our American worker heritage, and we drive it.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:22 AM   #178
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look at some of the cars the camaro beat out and it is pretty impresive... too bad TG didnt point that our...

BMW M3 csl 1.28.0
Roush mustang 1.28.0
WRX Sti 1.28.2
Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22
Dodge viper srt-10 1.28.5
Ford Shelby GT500 1.30.0
Vauxhall Monaro VXR 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4
BMW M3 1.31.8

not a bad list of cars to beat...
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:29 AM   #179
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Thanks for the list, i was looking for this. Not bad considering we beat out a m3, sti, evo, and 911 turbo. I would of thought those could have took us in a track course comparing stock to stock.
And don't forget to mentionned the ROUSH Mustang! The only dissapointment is that it didn't beat the 370Z....bummer..
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:29 AM   #180
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i dont get the point of 1- comparing a muscle car to a sport sedan. 2- a camaro to a car twice the price, and 3- why they thought the "body parts in the car" was funny... this video was biased, and not a fair comparo... although the driver guy seems to have the right idea of which car is better
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:31 AM   #181
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I like that E63 AMG. I'd buy a Camaro over it, but that Benz as a nice sound.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:33 AM   #182
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Thanks for the list, i was looking for this. Not bad considering we beat out a m3, sti, evo, and 911 turbo. I would of thought those could have took us in a track course comparing stock to stock.
it didn't beat any current 911 turbos. come on now. the Cayman S which is Porsches entry level car was faster.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track1.html
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:40 AM   #183
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I don't know why they compared the Camaro to the AMG. It's an apples and oranges situation but I predicted what would happen.
They compared the Royal Post vs a Porsche Panamera. Have you ever seen Top Gear before? Sounds like you don't really understand what the show is about.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:41 AM   #184
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40,000 pounds sterling is $ 60,000 Plus. The E63 AMG is 72,000 pounds or about $ 110,000. Thats $ 50,000 cost between the two in the UK.

Not even in the same league financially. Only the engine size is similar. AMG is Mercedes factory tuner. To compare the two you should really take the camaro to Lingenfelter and then see the times on the laps.

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Old 07-12-2010, 11:43 AM   #185
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Yep we're murderers... lmao
Put 72G in a camaro and see what happens... bad comparo
And the AMG isn't a Muscle Car.
Does anyone agree with me there?
Absolutely not. If you want that, go watch all the other boring and sterilized car shows out there. If you want to watch Top Gear, understand what kind of show it is before making such ridiculous statements.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:45 AM   #186
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exactly what i thought, that curly haired jackass hates American cars "no one intelligent would drive that car" , and whats with the murderous comments? i cant believe i watched that, i knew before what it was going to be like.

what a arrogant rotten tooth turd.....
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there is no such thing as a foreign muscle car. that's an AMERICAN PHRASE. No one can take that from us.
And you wonder why he thinks Americans who drive Camaros are "murderers"?

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Old 07-12-2010, 11:50 AM   #187
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I think many people who are watching that show for the first time in that video needs to understand what's been posted by regular watchers, in this thread previously. These guys are journalists (to my understanding) but that's not what this show is about. These guys can cut apart any car, and usually do. I've watched the show for a couple years, and have not seen a lot of older shows, yet, however, I believe I have a good grasp of the theme of the show. They even say that this show is about fun. I'm not going to defend it, because, frankly, I don't feel the need to, but these guys can be dark on anything. I'm trying to think of one car that these guys haven't had one negative comment about, and know there's maybe ONE or TWO, but that's it. They tear apart Aston Martins, Mercs', BMWs, Audis, it doesn't matter.

That said - they do have a different understanding of what muscle cars are. I say that because it's my opinion musclecars come from America, and we invented them. The comparison in that segment wasn't even reasonable, per se. Another thing is that show doesn't always base it's overall review of a car on numbers by themselves. Clarkson was quick to point out that he thought the 5.2 R8 was a better car than ZR1, but he'd take ZR1 over that R8 because it was more fun.

Don't make this review more than it really is...
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