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Old 07-13-2010, 08:19 AM   #276
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It shows the video is blocked. Dang it! I missed it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 09:18 AM   #277
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Anyone finds it elsewhere, post up plz. (I did see it, but want to be able to share ;P )
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:26 AM   #278
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:09 PM   #279
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Wow a euro car show threw in a euro car and $60k+ more in cost, and then picked the euro car to win. Shocker.

Next we'll have a comparison of a Honda Accord and a Porsche Carrera, then we'll all act surprised when the German judges pick the Porsche.
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:40 PM   #280
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lets see if the amg can beat the hpe 700
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:06 PM   #281
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Great. Give me $73k, I'll buy a Camaro SS, bolt on a Supercharger, upgrade the springs, put on swaybars, cam, headers, cold air intake and new exhaust. Then I'll throw on some really cool 22 / 21 Foose rims. That's about 21k. Hmmm.... okay an upgraded stereo. Hmmm...... can't spend it all, and at this point I can't see the Benz AMG anymore in my rear view mirror.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:20 PM   #282
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But the most important thing to remember is. They have no connection to these American cars. The car is deeply rooted in all of our history, our childhood, our memories. We often drive cars that evoke memories. Your not going to get stopped in Britain at a gas station or should I say a petro filling station {what ever} by someone who says yea my dad had a Camaro back in {put date here}. They hate them because they mean nothing to them.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:38 PM   #283
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When I was in Manchester 2 years ago i was out to dinner with a few of our Briitish customers and we were talking Top Gear ... They were quick to point out that he (Clarkson) hates Americans and thinks we're all fat stupid red necks. I replied that's why I like him, because he's right.

This thread just re-enforces that stereotype.
First off, Clarkson is NOT right.

Second, the responses from most of the people on this this thread merely reinforces that Americans can easily spot illogical/unfair/biased reporting when they see it (no matter how entertaining it might be).

Third, if you believe your false notion about Americans, then feel free to permanently stay there the next time your in Manchester.

Finally, it must be nice to make your money here ... and then go over to other countries and trash the very country you came from.

How hypocritically convenient of you ...
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:52 PM   #284
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... the most important thing to remember is. They have no connection to these American cars. The car is deeply rooted in all of our history, our childhood, our memories.
^Correct.

And we need to remember what you said, because when GM is selling a car in the US that's what they're thinking too.

Camaro owners want fast, well made, good looking, affordable vehicles.

An "upgraded" $80,000 Camaro SS that was only 1/2 sec quicker in the quarter mile and 3 sec faster on a Top Gear test track would NOT sell well in America.

Thank Goodness ...
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Old 07-13-2010, 08:32 PM   #285
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:43 AM   #286
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I sent them an email!. Offered them to come to Michigan and test our Pedders Camaro at Gingerman. I did mention our Pedders Camaro can turn a 1.38gs on street tires. I also gave them the video of Paul Tracy driving our Pedders Camaro at the Optima Challenge. Then asked if their $85-90,000 mile Mercedes can do that?

Here is the video I gave them


There is not a 2010 Camaro in the USA with street tires that can out perform the Pedders Camaro on a open track. PERIOD!

Will be interesting if they respond!

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:25 AM   #287
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You have to consider the source and region....A car with a V8 and lots of muscle is a "muscle car" in Europe.

Also, Hammond did BS a bit. The AMG is a 6.3L and not a 6.2L (not that it makes the comparison any more fair).

The better comparison for them would've been with an M3 or Audi V8 which are both available in 2 doors and both are kick ass cars that could potentially put the hurt on a Camaro on the TG test track but still cost twice as much.
Actually, while mercedes insists the engine is a 6.3L its actual displacement is 6.2.

http://www.carenthusiast.com/reviews...rst+drive.html

But I completely agree that it is not the right car to be tested against the camaro.

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Old 07-14-2010, 06:22 AM   #288
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I sent them an email!. Offered them to come to Michigan and test our Pedders Camaro at Gingerman. I did mention our Pedders Camaro can turn a 1.38gs on street tires. I also gave them the video of Paul Tracy driving our Pedders Camaro at the Optima Challenge. Then asked if their $85-90,000 mile Mercedes can do that?

Here is the video I gave them


There is not a 2010 Camaro in the USA with street tires that can out perform the Pedders Camaro on a open track. PERIOD!

Will be interesting if they respond!

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They've tested the ROush Mustang and a few others modded cars so I don't see why they wouldn't one day have your car on their show. That would be a huge boost to your brand name and it would show that a Camaro with your modest modifications can outdo pretty much any $80,000 Mercedes they throw at it and even quite a few $100,000 supercars.
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:48 AM   #289
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Do any of you actually watch top gear? They all have cars they like, and cars they dont like. They make fun of just about every country. It's all about entertainment and It's sorta funny how all of you take them so seriously lol.

Just this past episode Jeremy, richard, and james went on about how ugly the Porsche panamera Turbo is. And they did like the ZR1 corvette, the only thing jeremy said was that on their test track the audi r8 seemed more stable to him, then when the stig raced both of them. It wasn't even close, the zr1 hammered it.

Remember guys, they are more of an entertainment show then they are factual.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:16 AM   #290
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I liked the Camaro even betterafter this! Gas in my country is cheaper than water!! And some stupid guys here still buy the V6!!!!!! Nothing like an SS :-)
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:56 AM   #291
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Are you kidding me! Love my AB 2SS/RS Camaro. If I wanted a AMG, I would sell a Kidney and get one.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:00 AM   #292
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Anyone who watches this over in Europe will immediately see that a car costing $40,000 less is pretty much an equal in the speed dept. stock vs stock. Add a bolt-on and the Camaro wipes the floor clean against the AMG at the same track. Make it a stick shift instead of the automatic they tested and it would have done better as well.
It's 40,000 British Pounds which is almost $61,000.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:02 AM   #293
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It's 40,000 British Pounds which is almost $61,000.

The Merc was over 80,000 pounds hence the twice as much comment either which way you look at it.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:02 AM   #294
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Do any of you actually watch top gear? They all have cars they like, and cars they dont like. They make fun of just about every country. It's all about entertainment and It's sorta funny how all of you take them so seriously lol.
I have been saying the same thing in this thread man. I dont think a lot of them watch it, so they got offended(lol) by them.
Most dont seem to be even reading the thread and just start throwing bricks.
Dont worry, our post counts are lower so we obviously dont know what we are talking about.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:10 AM   #295
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First off I love American Muscle

But You Americans make me laugh. Of Course Top Gear is going to be bias as we donít get many of your 5 litre cars over here.

We love European cars like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche why!

Because they are built better, and donít fall apart.
I'd like to see proof of the quality of the build. I won't argue the quality of materials and amenities in most cases, but I humbly question factual evidence of build quality

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I have been saying the same thing in this thread man. I dont think a lot of them watch it, so they got offended(lol) by them.
Most dont seem to be even reading the thread and just start throwing bricks.
Dont worry, our post counts are lower so we obviously dont know what we are talking about.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:24 AM   #296
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I sent them an email!. Offered them to come to Michigan and test our Pedders Camaro at Gingerman. I did mention our Pedders Camaro can turn a 1.38gs on street tires. I also gave them the video of Paul Tracy driving our Pedders Camaro at the Optima Challenge. Then asked if their $85-90,000 mile Mercedes can do that?

Here is the video I gave them


There is not a 2010 Camaro in the USA with street tires that can out perform the Pedders Camaro on a open track. PERIOD!

Will be interesting if they respond!

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The guys at top gear are very aware of pedders equiped cars
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:10 PM   #297
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I'd like to see proof of the quality of the build. I won't argue the quality of materials and amenities in most cases, but I humbly question factual evidence of build quality






In all honesty Mercs have a terrible reputation for being in the shop all the time, as well as other "high end" manufacturers from Europe.

Some are built rock solid, others not. Just like NA vehicles. US auto makers painted themselves with the "unreliable, shoddily built" brush for the last while but they have been awaken (I hope) to the quality issue. Ford has done very well in Europe as well as GM subsidiarys. There are a surprising amount of vehicles in Europe that are wearing different clothes but are GM underneath. And somehow those are seen as built of better quality. Doesn't make sense to me. Alot of it are pre-conceived notions and stereotypes.

of course the Camaro lost the "comparison" if you call it that to a car double the price. Just because it has the same displacement engine doesn't mean it's in the same league. What I find funny is that in alot of review's like this they'll compare 2 cars of similar $ value and take huge marks off for one being 4-5k more than the other (i.e. the 4-door maserati, porsche, aston comparison this week) but in this case DOUBLE the price didn't seem to be the problem

That said, I love Top Gear and have every episode of every season on my external hard drive. If you know what they're about, this review makes perfect sense for their M.O. If they'd have reviewed the Camaro by itself indepth, Hammond would have loved it and Clarkson would have hated it. That's just the way it goes.

"Ambitious, but rubbish" is how their stuff usually turns out as they say. haha
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The guys at top gear are very aware of pedders equiped cars
Awesome! I do not beleive thay have a vehicle on their board that can hit 1.38 gs on street tires. So lets see if they will take us up on our offer. They definately have not seen a Camaro like the Pedders Camaro over there. We have assisted with a Camaro that is being prepped for the Ring. The build is is Norway.

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Old 07-14-2010, 01:45 PM   #299
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The problem Chevrolet have in the Uk and the biggest problem the Camaro will have is that the brand Chevrolet is seen as cheap pieces of crap, and seen as a joke!
In the uk people who are at the bottom of the income bracket buy them,

so at £40,000 $61,000 they are really going to struggle selling the Camero not because it's a poor car, because it's not, it's just a crap brand.

And its priced in the range of arguably the best middle range sports car ever made the BMW M3. ( you Americans may not think so but the other 3 quarter of the world do)
Plus the lighting Audi s4
There is nothing on cost over here yet - that £40k they quote is probably based on whomever imported the Red SS in the video - and I know you can buy one for around £35k fully loaded. Chevy hope to punt the car for less (but I seriously doubt it).
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I think the actual comparison in that episode was the sedans they tested. If you listen to what James said before the Camaro/Merc clip, these were just two new muscle cars that Hammond was testing out. I didn't see any actual comparing going on the whole time, save for the price/value statement. Though my friend showed me a Popular Mechanics article where they have the limit removed from the Camaro and it tops out at 174.4mph, so saying that the 186mph the E63 will do is "40 more than the Camaro will do" is bull.
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