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Old 07-16-2010, 10:19 PM   #326
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I would expect a better review as he seemed very pleased with it after his drive up the hill at Goodwood this year.

But he does drive for Chevy (Touring cars) in the UK so a vested interest

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So couldn't it be just as much of a biased opinion, but on the other side of the scale?


I would much rather have the car that is parked in front of him in that pic
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:39 AM   #327
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I thought that TOP GEAR went off the air? Wierd, anyway... I love the show but that limey bastard always knocks american cars. Hes biased big time, Hammond is the only dude that will give em a chance.
They fail to mention that with the money you save buying a camaro you can get a supercharger for a mere 7g's and forcibly sodomize that AMG all day long, and still have money left over to buy a garage to keep it dry.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:08 AM   #328
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I hate Top Gear. They always bash american cars and they always compare us to European cars costing twice as much. Like others have said, take the saved money from buying the Camaro and drop it in the engine bay, then see how the AMG stacks up..
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:30 AM   #329
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I almost didn't watch the review because I know how TG is about American cars. I think it's interesting that they comment about Americans having to "go to Australia for a bit of sophistication" in regard to the suspension used on the Camaro. Vauxhall may be located in Australia, but it is owned by GM.

And if I were a murderer, I'd have easy pickings since my Camaro still draws a crowd of admirers everywhere I go. I can't even stop to get gas without someone approaching me to tell me how much they like my car. The AMG just looks like every other Mercedes POS on the road.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:12 PM   #330
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I almost didn't watch the review because I know how TG is about American cars. I think it's interesting that they comment about Americans having to "go to Australia for a bit of sophistication" in regard to the suspension used on the Camaro. Vauxhall may be located in Australia, but it is owned by GM.
Vauxhall is based in the UK actually. Opel in Germany and Holden in Australia.

Whether you care or not, GM did use Holden to tune the chassis - and why not eh? It's GM regardless and they've done a good job on previous cars.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:18 PM   #331
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Vauxhall is based in the UK actually. Opel in Germany and Holden in Australia.

Whether you care or not, GM did use Holden to tune the chassis - and why not eh? It's GM regardless and they've done a good job on previous cars.
Actually, Vauxhall, is Holden and sells their version of the Monaro. Most of the R&D on the Camaro was in fact done by Holden. But Holden is GM, an it is smart to have that done. Holden did the design w ork on ZETA and ZETAII. Having them do the majority of the work makes good economic sense.

We are in a world market now, and are getting to the point where something is made, is unimportant.

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Old 10-14-2010, 02:38 PM   #332
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Anyone else see the new TOP GEAR with the Camaro?

Watched it last night. They had Richard Hammond driving it, so we didn't have to hear Clarkson talk about how terrible American cars are. Hammond liked it, but come on...they tested it against an AMG Mercedes? Not even in the same world.

I was also pretty disappointed with the lap time. But hey...they didn't bash it! Said it was a lot of car for the money.

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Old 10-14-2010, 02:44 PM   #333
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It's been a while... Many have seen it lol
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:48 PM   #334
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:51 PM   #335
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:59 PM   #336
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Well it only just premiered on BBC America this week. I'm sure there ARE lots of people that haven't seen it. I searched and didn't see anything recent here.

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Old 10-14-2010, 03:01 PM   #337
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who cares if it's old news, lots of us haven't seen it, and I'm interested to watch it now that I read the thread.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:08 PM   #338
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Yeah saw it...was disappointed it was put up against a Mercedes...of course its twice the car...its twice the price!!!

I'm going to the taping of the US Top Gear next week. I wonder what cars will be tested.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:15 PM   #339
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lol putting against the amg was a really stupid arguement.
Sure its twice the price, but its twice the car.....No REALLY?!
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #340
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Twice the price but I don't think twice the car, think of what another 30k-40k could do to your Camaro. That Merc wouldn't stand a chance...
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:28 PM   #341
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Twice the price but I don't think twice the car, think of what another 30k-40k could do to your Camaro. That Merc wouldn't stand a chance...
We'll se what an additional 15-25k or so will do to a camaro soon enough! (z-28).

Overall i was underwhelmed by the top gear camaro test. I wasn't expecting them to like it much because its not a very "european" car, nor is it really a "sports car". Its a muscle car and those guys never like muscle cars.

However, i was expecting a slightly more thorough test of it or at least james or jeremy in addition to richard to drive it or maybe even just a comparison with the mustang.

It did look it was having some issues going around the track though
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:35 PM   #342
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Comparison should have been CTS-V vs. Mercedes AMG. That episode was a POS.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:57 PM   #343
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We'll se what an additional 15-25k or so will do to a camaro soon enough! (z-28).

Overall i was underwhelmed by the top gear camaro test. I wasn't expecting them to like it much because its not a very "european" car, nor is it really a "sports car". Its a muscle car and those guys never like muscle cars.

However, i was expecting a slightly more thorough test of it or at least james or jeremy in addition to richard to drive it or maybe even just a comparison with the mustang.

It did look it was having some issues going around the track though
If you look, it was an automatic the Stig was driving, so I'm wondering if it had some of the same torque management issues some of the other auto's had. I've seen what a simple tune for an auto does and it at least gives a good 3-4 tenths of a second at the track. I imagine a road course would give similar results.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:44 PM   #344
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If you look, it was an automatic the Stig was driving, so I'm wondering if it had some of the same torque management issues some of the other auto's had. I've seen what a simple tune for an auto does and it at least gives a good 3-4 tenths of a second at the track. I imagine a road course would give similar results.
That is interesting. Was it just the test car that was automatic or was Hammond's car automatic too?
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Old 10-14-2010, 05:48 PM   #345
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Here is the previous thread that also has video

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94280
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Old 10-14-2010, 05:57 PM   #346
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:51 PM   #347
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i remembe watching an episode the went to Nevade and the tall gooy guy was driving a ZR1,hammond in a chllenger,and dr slow in a CTS-V.All of them were splooging in their pants the whole time.especially the guy who was bashing the camaro,he couldnt get enough of the ZR1.the one in the cts v was kind of negative but once they hit the twisties he went full blown crazy for love.but ya **** mercedes did you see the dash when he sat in the merc?ive enver liked luxury cars due to how complicated they are LOOK AT ALL THOSE BUTTONS.i have a feeling people who drive mercedes never take the time to fully tune and customize the inside dash controls and other electronics to there full potential because..its a waste of time.we can all agree they put quite a feew options in those cars that would be more then a waste of time to bother with.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:20 AM   #348
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sense when is an ANG a muscle car?? WTF!!! good vid other than that. with minor mods the camaro can probably kill that thing!
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Looks like there will be a Camaro SS in the US Version on Top Gear

http://www.sub5zero.com/auto-news/to...-holds-promise

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Old 10-18-2010, 05:22 PM   #350
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why did they not compare to a gt or srt ?
" i gusse it was like well we have a camaro and a 100k mercedes soo i gusse lets put them together and see what happens ? "
And i wouldent pay 50k more for a car that dose 2 seconds better on a track
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