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Old 07-12-2010, 12:05 AM   #126
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All things considered I think the camaro did pretty well here. Clearly a car with 125hp advantage is likely to win. It's time wasn't even that bad. If you watch the video and see the cars that were faster you'll see it did quite well. They pretty much all had more HP and the "truck" also drops a few pounds to help it in the speed department.
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:07 AM   #127
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I thought that went fairly well. Seriously.
That 127 time was slow though. Lutz coulda done better.
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:07 AM   #128
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I think a lot of are you are forgetting that he doesn't hate only american cars, and a lot of it is done for entertainment...you know...being on TV to entertain.


Though a lot of these posts are amusing.
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:25 AM   #129
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are you really upset?

he just combined them all in to one thread for easy searching.. And put it on the home page...

Seems kinda cool to me...
Ditto.
Pretty good compliment, I'd say!



Oh... and the best line of the video: "I'd still take the Camaro... it has soul!" Which just goes to show you that... he gets it!!!!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:46 AM   #130
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what a funny video they used a E63 in stead of a C63 because camaro would spank the shit out of the C63 lol the E63 is more like a CTS-V they just cant have an American car beat a Euro car it is like comparing a camaro aganst an M5 and not the M3 i have ran an M3 and beat it this video is
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:06 AM   #131
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What a strange way to compare similar cars, which are not similar in price and features. I'm sorry, but I didn't get the jokes. I still adore the camaro more
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:06 AM   #132
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thats why they dont like it, the camaro handles so bad... the euros are all about track cars...it makes sense
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:17 AM   #133
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So, they compared a Camaro to a Mercedes E63 AMG? I know when I go car shopping I always jump from the Chevy dealership straight to the 3-pointed star for some comparison shopping! WTF?! I have to say that I'm disappointed! I was hoping for something that made sense. And 127.9? Wow! I thought it would do better. Hammond didn't even say to many nice things about it.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:18 AM   #134
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I like taking two completely different cars and comparing them. I'm going to compare an Accord to a 2011 Shelby GT500 and take them around a road course and see who's better!

BTW, we all know which car looked waaaaaaaaaay better going down the track.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:27 AM   #135
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If I am not mistaken but 'AMG' is the tuning house for Mercedes. How can you compare an out of the box American Muscle Car (the only muscle Car you can have) with a tuned up 4-door saloon. I am British through and through, but I'd say you can keep your German Ubersaloon. I'll have the only true muscle car thank you very much, in orange with the black stripes. For a fairer comparison let's see a tuned up Camaro up against the Merc. My bet will be on the Camaro.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:30 AM   #136
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I agree, the review was disappointing and kind of retarded I'll admit. The whole thing was about that damn Merc. No Euro car exhaust note can compare to Muscle
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:32 AM   #137
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Hi! I am a Brit and own a Camaro and it is definitely an awesome muscle car and way too much fun to drive!!! As for their comparison test which was pretty ridiculous and should be viewed as such as an AMG should be compared to a Hennessey or SLP performance car or the Z28 when it comes out! Bottomline who cares about an AMG E63 beating a stock Camaro. Let's put our new CamaroZ28 performance model against their performance model AMG E63 and then see what happens!Lol
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:38 AM   #138
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thats like comparing a civic si to a GTR..what the **** do you expect. he said it himself..

its double the price. double the car...and also i hate that other guys attitude

like just str8 up hating on the car...all i got to say to him is F#% YOU!
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:39 AM   #139
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I agree, the review was disappointing and kind of retarded I'll admit. The whole thing was about that damn Merc. No Euro car exhaust note can compare to Muscle
Aaaaa........."retarded", that's the word that I was looking for! Well said!
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:41 AM   #140
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Hi! I am a Brit and own a Camaro and it is definitely an awesome muscle car and way too much fun to drive!!! As for their comparison test which was pretty ridiculous and should be viewed as such as an AMG should be compared to a Hennessey or SLP performance car or the Z28 when it comes out! Bottomline who cares about an AMG E63 beating a stock Camaro. Let's put our new CamaroZ28 performance model against their performance model AMG E63 and then see what happens!Lol
Totally agree with you, apart from I don't own a Camaro (but is on my wish list, very envious of you). Totally two different cars with different people buying them. Besides I think the Merc is a ugly f***er.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:44 AM   #141
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I like lots of cars, whether it's Jap, Euro, or American. A good car is a good car. There's nothing wrong with the Camaro. But there might be with their brains
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:31 AM   #142
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I like lots of cars, whether it's Jap, Euro, or American. A good car is a good car. There's nothing wrong with the Camaro. But there might be with their brains
humm being one the top cars car show on TV ...... and they have driven every super car know to man... might be something wrong with your brain....
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:37 AM   #143
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that was a conservative review, but we all have to admit the camaro did a very slow lap time.
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:26 AM   #144
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As someone who has watched Top Gear for three years or so, nothing surprises me about this video. The comparison itself was ridiculous. No one with the money to consider an Merc-AMG would even cast a sideways glance at our beloved Camaro SS.

I think the murderer story was hilarious, pretty much the same dig at the USA as their Corvette ZR-1 story when they said, "way to go, fat guy in Kentucky". But sometimes we need to be able to counter their smug wit with a reminder. The Brits need to be reminded about who won the war over 200 years ago, who saved their butts along with all of Europe in WW-II ("The Big One"), and what the "B" in "BP" stands for, the petroleum company who's genius engineers created a huge oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

In short, I won't be selling my Camaro SS anytime soon, but hanging Jeremy's head from my rearview mirror is worth considering!
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:28 AM   #145
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Looked like a Mercedes add to me. Not sure why the site would email me the link.
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:35 AM   #146
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humm being one the top cars car show on TV ...... and they have driven every super car know to man... might be something wrong with your brain....
another well constructed, witty reply from mikeSS. How many more can he pull out of his a--

These guys are comedians, not journalist...
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:43 AM   #147
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I know that. But driving super cars doesn't mean you shouldn't give other cars a chance. What the hell has a Merc got to do with a Camaro anyway?
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:53 AM   #148
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Well, you have to think that the "muscle car" class is a bit....well...slim with choices.
The 5.0 GT probably wasn't released yet when this was filmed, and they already did an episode with a challenger(that also had the ZR1 and the CTS-V which they also called muscle cars), plus i'm almost certain the challenger isn't sold in the UK.
What else to compare it against? Something else with a 6.2L V8 that is brand new to them.
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exactly what i thought, that curly haired jackass hates American cars "no one intelligent would drive that car" , and whats with the murderous comments? i cant believe i watched that, i knew before what it was going to be like.

what a arrogant rotten tooth turd.....
seems to me like you've never watched top gear before. then again, it also seems a lot like camaro people in general can't laugh about themselves anyway and as soon as somebody says something negative about their car they start crying like a baby.

and to all those crybabies that are saying " oooh they hate american cars" i also assume you have not seen the challenger/zr1/cts-v episode.

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They should of reviewed it against the mustang or challenger instead.
it's a UK based show. you can't even buy the mustang over there and i'm not sure you can buy the chally.

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Old 07-12-2010, 06:57 AM   #149
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Why would one torture themselves and expect an impartial review of the camaro, from a show which has consistently show disdain for american cars? The moment the Benz was introduced for comparison was the moment I would have stopped watching or changed the channel....

I bought what I bought, I like what I bought, and I do not expect or need anyone be it journalists, car experts, etc to validate my choice...I cannot waste energy getting bent about people who don't like my car... They don't like it fine, I am not asking them to drive it, pay for it, nor fix it when it needs repairing.... but that's just me....
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:00 AM   #150
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No fact about it.

Here's a copy and paste.

I think they used 'D' during the testing unfortunately. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the CTS-V. The auto tranny in the Camaro is the CTS-V auto tranny's little cousin. With that said the auto in the CTS-V outruns the manual to 60 mph (.3 sec), 100 mph (1 sec.), and around the Nurburgring!
CTS-V and the Camaro are 2 very different cars. That's like comparing the E63 AMG to the Camaro.

I'd bet everything I own that the Stig would get an M6 around the track faster.
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