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Old 07-30-2010, 02:33 PM   #35
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I just left George over at TTi a VM so once he returns my call I will change whatever needs changed right away,
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I talked to TTi today and they will be updating their site and shooting me a link so I can update the chart for them

Nice talking to you George
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:37 PM   #36
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:42 PM   #37
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i feel like i just blew smoke in your eyes and u shot me for it...but this wasnt against any person at all, but rather a freedom of info matter...and while i think u sound angry i rather u sound that way and spit facts, then stay quiet...so i welcome the info...and its doesnt have to be all camaro platform stuff...i think all ur credentials are impressive, and truly worthy of praise. Additionally I have a renewed respect for granatelli as a result. I think u should gloat in ur glory from the hard earned work and accomplishments. Kudos to u, and ur product is sweet
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:47 PM   #38
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Never Angry - sorry if I came off that way
Not a problem...we are entitled to feel things brother....and especially if u have to defend or demonstarte ur credentials, its ok either way I am just glad all the good tt kits guys are on board..in the end we are in it for fun
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:50 PM   #39
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Nick at TTi (Who actually makes "Your" kit) just posted that they have not shipped out any kits until the LS3 car is done:

"The kits are finished and ready to ship BUT we are not shipping ANY kits until we physically finish the install we are working on now to ensure no one has any problems with the system."

I have lost a few sales to you because I told clients we only had the LS3 car done and were not shipping anything out until the L99 car was finished. Turns out we are just as far along as "You" are we are just marketing it completely differently.

Maybe you should let TTi update potential customers on here since they are the ones doing the building / installing / testing of the kit and have a lot more control over when they will actually be shipping kits out?

Just a suggestion,
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Just another example of Jeff Hyper focussing on Granatelli rather then his own business. I chose not to argue so he tried to go around us to TTi. Nick does not speak for nor determine what we ship. Please do not try to drive a wedge between us - that is just more bad business on your part
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:55 PM   #40
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Not a problem...we are entitled to feel things brother....and especially if u have to defend or demonstarte ur credentials, its ok either way I am just glad all the good tt kits guys are on board..in the end we are in it for fun
i guess we all define good differently If you need to offer 3 or more different turbo as a marketing gimmic more power to you (them)

Tubes should not be crossing over under the car. The M6 and A6 kits are essentailly the same for us because we did not create fitments issues in the first place. It is disengenuous to put words in other peoples mouths adn misconstrue it all but that is what Jeff keeps trying to do.

It is all good on our end - in the end anyone one of these kits will make a ton of power - ours just does not drag on the ground over speed bumps
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:59 PM   #41
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Nick does not speak for nor determine what we ship.
So you ship out kits independent of TTi?

I assumed since they make the kit they would know what they have or have not shipped

Anyway, this thread is about comparing the specifics of the kits, which is why I chose to "Go around you" to talk to the place actually making it
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:10 PM   #42
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So you ship out kits independent of TTi?

I assumed since they make the kit they would know what they have or have not shipped

Anyway, this thread is about comparing the specifics of the kits, which is why I chose to "Go around you" to talk to the place actually making it
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Yes

Please leave me alone. TTi does not ship kits for Granatelli. TTi and Granatelli have worked together on many projects - Ford, Dodge and GM dating back to when I own Paxton as well. They are a well round shop and as Granatelli formulated GMS and sold Paxton, we have become the same. It is redundant for both of us to make a TT kit for the camaro - now that is is done we can and do ship independant of eachother as well as share inventory.

As an example Turbonetics is only 5 miles from GMS and we work with them as well on kits - that does not mean we ship all the kits for turbonetics sheesh

My problem is you created the thread and I find it very sinister why you IPS would want to "help" us all out on the vurtues of each kit when it is slanted you way.

That like Chevy adverting side by side with Ford - but in a friendly way sounds like an oxymoran

I think you are a nice guy and I have little to disagree on other then afew points - and I am not sure why you stalk me on this forum

Other than that - I am always happy to help everyone

Please focus on IPS and not GMS
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:17 PM   #43
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My problem is you created the thread and I find it very sinister why you IPS would want to "help" us all out on the vurtues of each kit when it is slanted you way.
"Sinister" way? Its a chart of factual information. Like I have stated to you and every other supplier, if you disagree with any of it then all you have to do is let me know.

George is in the process of doing that now...
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:19 PM   #44
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Please keep any further comment to a PM or phone call as I don't want to "Muck up" this thread any further.

My apologies for bringing up the shipping discrepancies in here -- I should have posted that in the "Other" thread.

Thanks!
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:11 PM   #45
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What really needs to be done is to show the 1/4 pass times vs. RWHP for all the turbos....this might open up some eyes. Gather as much data as possible for each type of turbo....in the long run, I think we will have a more important statistic.

To really just show maximum rwhp and rwtq can be extremely misleading.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:14 PM   #46
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George is in the process of doing that now...
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:18 PM   #47
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What really needs to be done is to show the 1/4 pass times vs. RWHP for all the turbos....this might open up some eyes. Gather as much data as possible for each type of turbo....in the long run, I think we will have a more important statistic.

To really just show maximum rwhp and rwtq can be extremely misleading.
I agree - my point is each manufacture should focus on thier own kit. Not hyper focus on GMS

There is no banter between Granatelli and Hellion They talk up their kit and we talk up ours - period. I am sure if you call them direct they will slant it there way (rightfully so) and we should all do the same
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Lastly - since 95% of the peeps here are focusing and hoping for 650 to 700 - there are many ways to get there
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:02 PM   #49
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What really needs to be done is to show the 1/4 pass times vs. RWHP for all the turbos....this might open up some eyes. Gather as much data as possible for each type of turbo....in the long run, I think we will have a more important statistic.

To really just show maximum rwhp and rwtq can be extremely misleading.
I agree with midgard...gentlemen, perhaps we are losing site of the task....which to me is the best all around kit for the street, considering power, durability, eng longevity, ease of operation, installation and tuning, and all the factors that make a great kit. No doubt i think all the kits , twins and singles have pros and cons. Since i dont intend to be a drag racer 1/4 traps are cool but not the last word for me...but nonetheless for argument sake, with slicks will the demonstrate the total capability of the packages offered.
Jeff : I would agree that granatelli doesn't base his bus on another company solely...so perhaps u erred in judgement on that...just a shot in he dark, it doesnt take away from u or make u a bad guy...

granatelli: in defense of jeff..i don't think he is stalking you, that's a lil accusatory...perhaps he is eager to show his products and do business, and might come off a lil brash or over zealous.....I think we should stop this squabble, and move along with making great set-ups and power...I for one have am waiting fo more videos, dyno numbers , facts, pics etc...and again I thank u gentleman for your r & d in the car I love
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I agree - my point is each manufacture should focus on thier own kit. Not hyper focus on GMS

There is no banter between Granatelli and Hellion They talk up their kit and we talk up ours - period. I am sure if you call them direct they will slant it there way (rightfully so) and we should all do the same
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:17 PM   #51
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The thing is, inflating your results might get you a sale or two, but when those customers are unhappy because they could not reach what the inflated results said, then the word gets out and many, many future sales could be lost. Giving honest factual information leads to happy customers, which leads to referrals, which leads to many, many more sales. Sales 101.

I personally am loyal to those who are honest with me and I send them referrals. Those who are not, lose a lot more than just my business.
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