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Old 08-24-2010, 08:05 AM   #76
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I can't find a thing about a Twin-turbo kit here:

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com//car.php?pid=26%22

TTi's info is here (Feel free to tell me where something off this site is incorrect or mis-stated):

http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/site/?p=561

Hellion's is here:

http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/i...bo-systems/172

Fastlane's is here:

http://www.fastlaneturbo.com/camaros...e4package.aspx
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:28 PM   #77
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I've read this thread from start to the current finish, and I wanted to pop in a few comments/questions. First, thanks to Jeff @ IPS for at least putting the names of the companies together so I knew who was making these kits. I'm a grown man, and while I appreciate any and all research he did for this, I will always trust my own research better. That being said, I would appreciate a PM or any additional info that any of the TT kit makers could provide. I've spoken with Granatelli before, and Hellion, but it's been some time and I'm trying to the best comparison of these kits that I can, so all info is appreciated. My hat's off to Cole @ Fastlane, as I've spoken with him as well, and seen his kit. That single mount is a thing of beauty, and makes great power, but I've decided that TT is the road for me.

So, any info that the kits manufacturers/sellers could provide would be greatly helpful, and thanks again to all who have worked so hard to help us Bowtie Guys go so fast!!
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:41 PM   #78
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For those who can wait a little longer...

I have another twin turbo option that is currently in the works. A reputable company in north Alabama is designing a twin turbo kit for my 2ss auto (they do manuals too). Mine will be their first 2010 camaro, but they have been doing turbo LS motors for years. They are currently doing a 1000hp z06, and when it's done, mine is next in their shop.

More details will follow as this progresses.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:46 AM   #79
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^^ what the shop name in AL, im in MS and would love to know about this shop you speaking of and im also looking into a TT kit for my car
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:49 AM   #80
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i cant wait to just have my tt setup already
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:52 PM   #82
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For those who can wait a little longer...

I have another twin turbo option that is currently in the works. A reputable company in north Alabama is designing a twin turbo kit for my 2ss auto (they do manuals too). Mine will be their first 2010 camaro, but they have been doing turbo LS motors for years. They are currently doing a 1000hp z06, and when it's done, mine is next in their shop.

More details will follow as this progresses.
There will continue to be more and more guys that claim to be able to make kits - making a kit that is super nice ain't easy - Wanna know what is harder?

Making a super nice kit that you can ship so that when the customer gets it - it just works. One off stuff is not the same as production.



Think about it. Call Lingenfelter and try to purchase a TT kit from them. They say, "ah, no way jose' ". But take your car to them and they will give you back a super bad Mo-Fo. - They understand that it ain't easy. They value teh Lingenfelter name and do not want to marr it.

Our kit is just that good. It will fit right out of the box -

In short - if you are having akit cusomt made by your favorite shop - more power to you as I am sure they can and will do a super bitchen job. wanna buy a kit that you can take out of the boxes and have it fit? Deal with the comapnies that do it everyday - make sence?
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:09 AM   #83
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I'm confused as to how this thread turned into Granatelli advertising duck butt spoilers.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:10 AM   #84
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wow...I was away for a few days in Jamaica...it was hot there...but this thread is hotter....i like this hot blood, makes for info distribution... I am waiting....and we tt wannabes are all ears
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:43 AM   #85
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Hey Jeff,
We've been so busy shipping kits, I haven't had a chance to tell you about the awesome upgrades we've made since your IPS powered spreadsheet was made. Here are some of the changes that need to be made:

- The turbochargers are offered either come with Precision's by default but were all about what the customer wants so if they would like to run the Turbonetics units, we can do that as well.

- Our Precision turbine housings (and even Turbonetics) use Stainless Steel mounting and discharge flanges.

- The intercooler is powder coated BUT we barely spray the core at all. Just enough to give it some color without making the cooler work inefficiently.

- Kenne Bell boost-a-pump is recomended but not required. We used to use the MSD pumps but they dont seem to work as well. Again, customer preference- if they have to have an MSD unit by all means get one.

- The kits can come with 81lb injectors (per request) but we found that most of the community wouldn't need an injector that big. Injector sizing is critical as you know which is why we thought the 60lbs were more suitable.

- The oil drains are steel braid w/Teflon crimped ends
- the oil feed lines are steel braid Teflon crimped ends
We didn't have a sporty name for them- they are what they are
we dont use the push lock setup any more for the drains

- with a real conservative tune, 91 octane gas, we were able to make 615RWHP/613TQ on 7.75psi on an M6 on a hot day.

- our turbochargers come with a real warranty through Precision and also Turbonetics. "other" manufactures make you believe there's a warranty but yeah I wont even go there

- Any components that we manufactured (by TTi), have a limited life time warranty. Its the same warranty we've always offered with all our systems. If the part is something that is out of warranty or beyond our means of repair, we always help the customer out with the cost of repairs. The weak links in this scenario used to be manifolds. In this case, the Camaro kits use the stock exhaust manifolds so were we aren't anticipating any manifold failure. (I haven't had any of our Corvette prematurely fail) The parts we use will also have a warranty through the manufacture.

Thats all I can think of right now. Its been a long work week. and thats about how I feel right now! jk

Anyhow, when you update this spread sheet, I'll go over it again and make sure everything is right. Just shoot me an instant message. I also need to get data from George and Joey on some of the specifics as well.

On a side note, I noticed your website pricing doesn't reflect what your spread sheet says? Might want to change that so customers know that your kit costs the most- its only fair
Ill make the updates and get the revised chart up today or tomorrow.

Thanks for keeping things on-topic
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:37 PM   #86
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Ill make the updates and get the revised chart up today or tomorrow.

Thanks for keeping things on-topic
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Thank you for taking the time to copy this info off the kit producers web sites and having it all in one place.
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Thank you for taking the time to copy this info off the kit producers web sites and having it all in one place.
I think a better way to say it is - Thanks for taking the time to only put up the parts you want on other companies kits
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...because Jeff @ IPS made the chart- not STS. This chart that Jeff has made is very helpful but also very misleading/informing.

I would suggest, when doing your homework on which kit to buy, that you contact the manufacture and find out for yourself what is included with each system.[/QUOTE]


Same answer different time
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:24 PM   #89
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ok Jeff I think I am getting confused with all this back and forth stuff...I suggest u really detail the kits and be absolutely certain u have the right stuff, aka add * ...with denotations and side bars for references, ...discuss in detail the differences between parts, advantages and disadvantages further...i mean this takes leg work...but its what we all want to make a really informed choice...and as always I thank every1 for all info...I am on the fence, but just want to make the best choice for me
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ok Jeff I think I am getting confused with all this back and forth stuff...I suggest u really detail the kits and be absolutely certain u have the right stuff, aka add * ...with denotations and side bars for references, ...discuss in detail the differences between parts, advantages and disadvantages further...i mean this takes leg work...but its what we all want to make a really informed choice...and as always I thank every1 for all info...I am on the fence, but just want to make the best choice for me
I made it as detailed as posting the spreadsheet up as an image using print/screen would allow

I have asked repeatedly (I would quote myself each time but that would take way too long) to have any manufacturer or re-seller of a turbo kit correct or add any info on the chart. Hellion, Fastlane, and TTi have all done that and the "New and Improved" version will be up today. We have changed a few things on ours as well so my IPS updates/improvements will be included as well

Since I have a funny feeling most people didn't scroll down the first page of this thread to see the initial chart revision I will edit my first post with today's update to minimize any confusion.
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sounds like everyone is letting there ego get to them
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:58 AM   #92
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sounds like everyone is letting there ego get to them
That is why I figured I would just start a different thread and add all the current info there. Then I figured I probably should just email it to some random member on here and have them tweak or modify it as they see fit so the facts in it are not "Biased" in any way.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:58 AM   #93
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That is why I figured I would just start a different thread and add all the current info there. Then I figured I probably should just email it to some random member on here and have them tweak or modify it as they see fit so the facts in it are not "Biased" in any way.
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Jeff, as an observer on the forum, I never thought your comparison was one sided as it was attacked to be and I'm sure it's very useful to many others. Another option is to make sure your kit data is all in there and then put the list on your website. This way, anyone interested can go to the site and see for themselves. Many companies put comparison list on their list and this will avoid this political quarrel.
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Jeff, as an observer on the forum, I never thought your comparison was one sided as it was attacked to be and I'm sure it's very useful to many others. Another option is to make sure your kit data is all in there and then put the list on your website. This way, anyone interested can go to the site and see for themselves. Many companies put comparison list on their list and this will avoid this political quarrel.
Just my two cents!
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From what I've read in several of these TT threads, especially this one, Jeff has put up as much info as he knows about each kit, whether its better or worse than his own. He even put out an open invitation on numerous occasions that other companies could add whatever specs and details they wanted....I don't see the bias Sure IPS will want people to buy their kit, thats business, but i havn't seen them pull a bag over anyone's eyes or make false comparisons.
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From what I've read in several of these TT threads, especially this one, Jeff has put up as much info as he knows about each kit, whether its better or worse than his own. He even put out an open invitation on numerous occasions that other companies could add whatever specs and details they wanted....I don't see the bias Sure IPS will want people to buy their kit, thats business, but i havn't seen them pull a bag over anyone's eyes or make false comparisons.




I fully agree on this after a very impartial look...and Jeff has communicated with me and sought to speak with me on a few occasions, as well ted from jeannetty and liverrnois...so i must commend him...I think i will go with the ips kit...i am really leaning towards it,,,btw jeff i am still waiting for the call with the specifics we spoke of...this is a big move for me....so i want to really make an informed and safe choice given all aspects
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I agree, Jeff you have my vote and when I get the money it will be going towards a TT kit from IPS.

Vendors, take heed from this, we don't care if you claim to be the best or have the best. Put your information out on the table and let it speak for itself. You've all done a great deal of work making the kits, let them speak for themselves and let US do the deciding.


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From what I've read in several of these TT threads, especially this one, Jeff has put up as much info as he knows about each kit, whether its better or worse than his own. He even put out an open invitation on numerous occasions that other companies could add whatever specs and details they wanted....I don't see the bias Sure IPS will want people to buy their kit, thats business, but i havn't seen them pull a bag over anyone's eyes or make false comparisons.




I fully agree on this after a very impartial look...and Jeff has communicated with me and sought to speak with me on a few occasions, as well ted from jeannetty and liverrnois...so i must commend him...I think i will go with the ips kit...i am really leaning towards it,,,btw jeff i am still waiting for the call with the specifics we spoke of...this is a big move for me....so i want to really make an informed and safe choice given all aspects
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sounds like everyone is letting there ego get to them
HI Jordan...I need an EGO BOSST...like tt with ic and 700 rwhp...yippeeeeeee
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Jeff,

As another potential TT buyer, I too want to thank you for pulling this together. I also want to say that I I did not sense any bias in your posts, simply a desire to consolidate info. THANKS FOR THAT!!

Hopefully the all the TT manufactures will rush to push their detailed specs to you!
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me too.
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