Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Cam Motion
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Forced Induction - V8


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-22-2010, 10:51 PM   #69
racrx451
 
racrx451's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 white SS
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DMI
Posts: 217
why is there no info on the STS TT stuff?
racrx451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 02:02 AM   #70
Whorable MPG1975
I'd rather be Blown.
 
Whorable MPG1975's Avatar
 
Drives: 1975 CAMARO 454ciBBC/TKO-600
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Japan, Yokosuka
Posts: 148
Do these system retain the stock exhaust manifolds or use headers? Hellion has been grabbing my attention as of late.
Whorable MPG1975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 08:59 AM   #71
HELLION TURBO

 
HELLION TURBO's Avatar
 
Drives: Twin Turbo SS
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorable MPG1975 View Post
Do these system retain the stock exhaust manifolds or use headers? Hellion has been grabbing my attention as of late.
The factory exhaust manifolds are utilized in these systems
HELLION TURBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 05:19 PM   #72
Granatelli
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2SS Victory Red
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oxnard
Posts: 1,093
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTI Nick View Post
...because Jeff @ IPS made the chart- not STS. This chart that Jeff has made is very helpful but also very misleading/informing.

I would suggest, when doing your homework on which kit to buy, that you contact the manufacture and find out for yourself what is included with each system.
- is there an echo in here
Granatelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 07:07 PM   #73
IPSjeff
 
Drives: 2009 ZR1
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 651
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTI Nick View Post
...because Jeff @ IPS made the chart- not STS. This chart that Jeff has made is very helpful but also very misleading/informing.
Wrong. It is actually because when I made it I couldn't find the first detail on STS' site regarding their kit. I checked this morning and there is a *Little* more info on it now (The Camaro has a section and a few tiny bits of info at least) so I will add that.

As stated in my very first post of this thread, I am only using info off the manufacturers website or graphs posted up here. If I couldn't find anything I wasn't going to add "Assumed" or 2nd-hand information.
Jeff
IPSjeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 07:26 PM   #74
Granatelli
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2SS Victory Red
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oxnard
Posts: 1,093
[QUOTE=TTI Nick;2251734]...because Jeff @ IPS made the chart- not STS. This chart that Jeff has made is very helpful but also very misleading/informing.

I would suggest, when doing your homework on which kit to buy, that you contact the manufacture and find out for yourself what is included with each system.[/QUOTE]



Say answer different time

Last edited by Granatelli; 08-31-2010 at 07:53 PM.
Granatelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 08:51 AM   #75
IPSjeff
 
Drives: 2009 ZR1
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 651
I would suggest that if you are a manufacturer or re-seller of a TT kit for the 2010+ Camaro SS that you put detailed and accurate information about your kit on your website. The chart is a collection / summary of that info so if the chart is lacking or in anyway "Inaccurate" then your website (Including pictures taken of the kit components on it) is as well
Jeff

EDIT: For example, here is what info is posted on STS' site for their Camaro Kit:

http://ststurbo.com/2010_camaro_specs

That is enough to fill in 2 or 3 lines in the chart and "STS" turbos and WG's and BOV really tells me nothing. I will add it in none-the-less...
IPSjeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 09:05 AM   #76
IPSjeff
 
Drives: 2009 ZR1
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 651
I can't find a thing about a Twin-turbo kit here:

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com//car.php?pid=26%22

TTi's info is here (Feel free to tell me where something off this site is incorrect or mis-stated):

http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/site/?p=561

Hellion's is here:

http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/i...bo-systems/172

Fastlane's is here:

http://www.fastlaneturbo.com/camaros...e4package.aspx
IPSjeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 04:28 PM   #77
kpwalls06
Cory
 
kpwalls06's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6;
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Carrollton, Tx
Posts: 282
I've read this thread from start to the current finish, and I wanted to pop in a few comments/questions. First, thanks to Jeff @ IPS for at least putting the names of the companies together so I knew who was making these kits. I'm a grown man, and while I appreciate any and all research he did for this, I will always trust my own research better. That being said, I would appreciate a PM or any additional info that any of the TT kit makers could provide. I've spoken with Granatelli before, and Hellion, but it's been some time and I'm trying to the best comparison of these kits that I can, so all info is appreciated. My hat's off to Cole @ Fastlane, as I've spoken with him as well, and seen his kit. That single mount is a thing of beauty, and makes great power, but I've decided that TT is the road for me.

So, any info that the kits manufacturers/sellers could provide would be greatly helpful, and thanks again to all who have worked so hard to help us Bowtie Guys go so fast!!
kpwalls06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 07:41 PM   #78
general23cmp
 
Drives: 2010 RS SS
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 196
For those who can wait a little longer...

I have another twin turbo option that is currently in the works. A reputable company in north Alabama is designing a twin turbo kit for my 2ss auto (they do manuals too). Mine will be their first 2010 camaro, but they have been doing turbo LS motors for years. They are currently doing a 1000hp z06, and when it's done, mine is next in their shop.

More details will follow as this progresses.
general23cmp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010, 01:46 AM   #79
Blk_SS
 
Drives: black on black 2SS/RS
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Biloxi,MS
Posts: 357
^^ what the shop name in AL, im in MS and would love to know about this shop you speaking of and im also looking into a TT kit for my car
Blk_SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010, 04:49 AM   #80
SILVER BULLITT

 
Drives: 2010 SIM 2SS/RS MONSTER
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: LOS ANGELES
Posts: 1,506
i cant wait to just have my tt setup already
__________________
HP MONSTER' SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BUILT, LMR CAI, CUSTOM GRIND CAM, CUSTOM BUILT CNC PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS, FAST 102MM INTAKE MANIFOLD,ARH LONG TUBES AND HIGH FLOW CATS, BIGGER INJECTORS, VALVES SPRINGS RETAINERS, MGW SHORT SHIFTER, EIBACH SPRINGS, FACTORY CHROMED WHEELS, BLACKED OUT EMBLEMS, BLACKED OUT ROOF,BLACKED OUT MARKERS, 3.5 INCH ELECTRONIC CUTOUTS, FLOWMASTERS, ZEX WET 150 SHOT, FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF =630 REAR WHEEL TORQUE ,AND 600 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER
MY JOURNALhttp://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...02#post2023802 SOON TWIN TURBO SETUP
SILVER BULLITT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2010, 07:52 PM   #82
Granatelli
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2SS Victory Red
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oxnard
Posts: 1,093
Quote:
Originally Posted by general23cmp View Post
For those who can wait a little longer...

I have another twin turbo option that is currently in the works. A reputable company in north Alabama is designing a twin turbo kit for my 2ss auto (they do manuals too). Mine will be their first 2010 camaro, but they have been doing turbo LS motors for years. They are currently doing a 1000hp z06, and when it's done, mine is next in their shop.

More details will follow as this progresses.
There will continue to be more and more guys that claim to be able to make kits - making a kit that is super nice ain't easy - Wanna know what is harder?

Making a super nice kit that you can ship so that when the customer gets it - it just works. One off stuff is not the same as production.



Think about it. Call Lingenfelter and try to purchase a TT kit from them. They say, "ah, no way jose' ". But take your car to them and they will give you back a super bad Mo-Fo. - They understand that it ain't easy. They value teh Lingenfelter name and do not want to marr it.

Our kit is just that good. It will fit right out of the box -

In short - if you are having akit cusomt made by your favorite shop - more power to you as I am sure they can and will do a super bitchen job. wanna buy a kit that you can take out of the boxes and have it fit? Deal with the comapnies that do it everyday - make sence?
Granatelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2010, 03:09 AM   #83
DJDuck
 
Drives: White + Black 2SS
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Denver
Posts: 9
I'm confused as to how this thread turned into Granatelli advertising duck butt spoilers.
DJDuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 05:10 AM   #84
ipimpthisc
Banned
 
Drives: @twinturbo, cammed, intrcooled@
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: nyc, EAST COAST HEAVY HITTERS
Posts: 745
Send a message via AIM to ipimpthisc
wow...I was away for a few days in Jamaica...it was hot there...but this thread is hotter....i like this hot blood, makes for info distribution... I am waiting....and we tt wannabes are all ears
ipimpthisc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2010, 12:43 PM   #85
IPSjeff
 
Drives: 2009 ZR1
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 651
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTI Nick View Post
Hey Jeff,
We've been so busy shipping kits, I haven't had a chance to tell you about the awesome upgrades we've made since your IPS powered spreadsheet was made. Here are some of the changes that need to be made:

- The turbochargers are offered either come with Precision's by default but were all about what the customer wants so if they would like to run the Turbonetics units, we can do that as well.

- Our Precision turbine housings (and even Turbonetics) use Stainless Steel mounting and discharge flanges.

- The intercooler is powder coated BUT we barely spray the core at all. Just enough to give it some color without making the cooler work inefficiently.

- Kenne Bell boost-a-pump is recomended but not required. We used to use the MSD pumps but they dont seem to work as well. Again, customer preference- if they have to have an MSD unit by all means get one.

- The kits can come with 81lb injectors (per request) but we found that most of the community wouldn't need an injector that big. Injector sizing is critical as you know which is why we thought the 60lbs were more suitable.

- The oil drains are steel braid w/Teflon crimped ends
- the oil feed lines are steel braid Teflon crimped ends
We didn't have a sporty name for them- they are what they are
we dont use the push lock setup any more for the drains

- with a real conservative tune, 91 octane gas, we were able to make 615RWHP/613TQ on 7.75psi on an M6 on a hot day.

- our turbochargers come with a real warranty through Precision and also Turbonetics. "other" manufactures make you believe there's a warranty but yeah I wont even go there

- Any components that we manufactured (by TTi), have a limited life time warranty. Its the same warranty we've always offered with all our systems. If the part is something that is out of warranty or beyond our means of repair, we always help the customer out with the cost of repairs. The weak links in this scenario used to be manifolds. In this case, the Camaro kits use the stock exhaust manifolds so were we aren't anticipating any manifold failure. (I haven't had any of our Corvette prematurely fail) The parts we use will also have a warranty through the manufacture.

Thats all I can think of right now. Its been a long work week. and thats about how I feel right now! jk

Anyhow, when you update this spread sheet, I'll go over it again and make sure everything is right. Just shoot me an instant message. I also need to get data from George and Joey on some of the specifics as well.

On a side note, I noticed your website pricing doesn't reflect what your spread sheet says? Might want to change that so customers know that your kit costs the most- its only fair
Ill make the updates and get the revised chart up today or tomorrow.

Thanks for keeping things on-topic
Jeff
IPSjeff is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: 2000 Twin Turbo Camaro SS fredl11 Autos For Sale / Wanted 8 02-06-2012 03:11 AM
Do you want the Z28? ChrisB Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 1616 09-05-2010 12:49 AM
Anyone Interested in a Turbo Kit or headers? VegasSilverbird USA - Southwest 12 05-06-2010 10:55 AM
Group Buy - Turbo Kit ZZcamaro Forced Induction 32 11-30-2009 01:52 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.