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Old 07-27-2010, 01:31 PM   #35
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The spacers are to be used with the clamps so no modification of the clamp is necessary due to the very close tolerances of the bar to the subframe

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Got it - thanks
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:31 PM   #36
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Revised Pedders Sway Bar Install Sheet for Camaro

Below is our revised Pedders Sway bar Installation Instructions. We have updated them for the front and rear locking collars, and front spacers to adjust for clearances for the collars.





Here is a closer shot of the front bracket assembly. The larger face of the bushing points inward. The spacer pictured is our prototype. The actual unit is color matched



Here is a closer look at the bracket assembly as it would appear installed



Why has Pedders gone thru all this effort? The concerns are welding collars on a piece of spring steel at a very stressed area with bar deflection, can create weakness in that area. We are being very picky about it, but this is our concern. Adding the spacers allows perfect clearance, good geometry, and easiness of installation.

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Old 07-27-2010, 02:44 PM   #37
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Below is our revised Pedders Sway bar Installation Instructions. We have updated them for the front and rear locking collars, and front spacers to adjust for clearances for the collars.





Here is a closer shot of the front bracket assembly. The larger face of the bushing points inward. The spacer pictured is our prototype. The actual unit is color matched



Here is a closer look at the bracket assembly as it would appear installed



Why has Pedders gone thru all this effort? The concerns are welding collars on a piece of spring steel at a very stressed area with bar deflection, can create weakness in that area. We are being very picky about it, but this is our concern. Adding the spacers allows perfect clearance, good geometry, and easiness of installation.

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Thanks - I believe that makes your concerns very clear as far as why you went this direction.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:58 PM   #38
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Thanks - I believe that makes your concerns very clear as far as why you went this direction.
thanks,

By the way, what brakes does the front look like on your Signature Picture??

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:02 PM   #39
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thanks,

By the way, what brakes does the front look like on your Signature Picture??

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I was going to be a smart @$$ and post a pic' of those brakes on your Pedders car, but I don't have one with those brakes Good call on that - it makes total sense, to me, for them to use those. I wonder if they're going to keep the rear binders and rotors though; I imagine they'd be just fine. KUDOs to you guys.
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:07 PM   #40
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BTW - I got a day-long ride in Mindz's car, with your Xas, and, umm... yeah - that was bad @$$!!! Not once did I feel the suspension crash and bottom out. There was one on-ramp, in particular, where he rolled onto the throttle, right in the middle of it, and we rode over a huge dip and it didn't upset the car one, single bit. I thought for SURE we were going to slide right across the freeway into the median, but shit - we didn't. That f'ing car seemed to bite harder the faster we went through the curve, and it didn't even have the complete content of one of your solutions. I'm sold now - without a doubt. Z28 is going to have to handle like one bad SOB in order for me to not work really hard to go with some Xas/Supercars!
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:15 PM   #41
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BTW - I got a day-long ride in Mindz's car, with your Xas, and, umm... yeah - that was bad @$$!!! Not once did I feel the suspension crash and bottom out. There was one on-ramp, in particular, where he rolled onto the throttle, right in the middle of it, and we rode over a huge dip and it didn't upset the car one, single bit. I thought for SURE we were going to slide right across the freeway into the median, but shit - we didn't. That f'ing car seemed to bite harder the faster we went through the curve, and it didn't even have the complete content of one of your solutions. I'm sold now - without a doubt. Z28 is going to have to handle like one bad SOB in order for me to not work really hard to go with some Xas/Supercars!
Thank you for the complement! Pedders works hard at making the Camaro the best we can and will continue this process for a long time!

I have been waiting for someone to comment on the brakes and the picture for a while. Also, I am not surprised on how many guys I have chatted with that are like you and waiting for the Z28! Have one guy who already has already installed a complete Pedders track kit, and loves it. But will trade it in for the Z28 because he has to have the best! The Z28 will be soooooo cool!

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:52 PM   #42
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Thank you for the complement! Pedders works hard at making the Camaro the best we can and will continue this process for a long time!

I have been waiting for someone to comment on the brakes and the picture for a while. Also, I am not surprised on how many guys I have chatted with that are like you and waiting for the Z28! Have one guy who already has already installed a complete Pedders track kit, and loves it. But will trade it in for the Z28 because he has to have the best! The Z28 will be soooooo cool!

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Well - even on a car that didn't have the full complement of your catalog on it, I was more suprised than I can express. KUDOs to you guys

Well - in Post 6 I didn't really suggest where I've seen those before, but those were one of the things I looked at first, lol
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:00 PM   #43
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Well - even on a car that didn't have the full complement of your catalog on it, I was more suprised than I can express. KUDOs to you guys

Well - in Post 6 I didn't really suggest where I've seen those before, but those were one of the things I looked at first, lol
Great. Hopefully all questions should now be answered. If not, they just need to ask

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Old 07-27-2010, 06:07 PM   #44
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What's the purpose for the spacers? Is it to raise the d-bushings up to fit the clamps better next to the frame? I just ground the clamps down to slide between the swaybar and frame.
I decided to wait for the permanent fix. Machined piece looks a lot nicer than my butchered steel bar. I can be very difficult and picky at times.

Now the million dollar question... Centri or PD? Still weighing in pros/cons. Plus, wife wants to go on another extended trip next year. I actually considered shipping car to CA to drive across country. But I told her I'd do that after I put the FI in... Sad thing, my wife has immediate family in Valdosta GA and couldn't swing the timing.

FI vs Vacation

Back on topic, the new front clamp mechanism matches the back and completes the SwaybarB package. Good swaybar solution especially at that package price point.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:14 PM   #45
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Me too, I got the clamps with mine and had to grind the bottoms down to fit between the bar and frame. This is the first I've seen of the spacers.
The purpose of the spacers is to give the clearance so not cutting or grinding has to be done to the brackets. We really want it to be seamless. Adding the spacers, will make it so.

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picked up car tonight , what a nice feeling...took a exit ramp about 65 just to get a feel , no roll , planted smoothly thru ramp..but damn were my tires screaming...NOW i gotta get some tires...i could see how suspension could almost give you a false security, did not feel like i was hardly moving but my speedo and tires told me differently ..so far very happy...mike , what would you rec for daily driving settings on the coilovers? i would search the posts but i know you will see this and give me a good amswer..thanks ..soon as wife gets back in town i will take some snapshots and post them thanks for getting it right mike...if you want i will take a pedders cap and wear with my GET SCREWED kb sc shirts
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What's the purpose for the spacers? Is it to raise the d-bushings up to fit the clamps better next to the frame? I just ground the clamps down to slide between the swaybar and frame.
Yes, if you send an email to Jacie she will send you a set straight away.

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picked up car tonight , what a nice feeling...took a exit ramp about 65 just to get a feel , no roll , planted smoothly thru ramp..but damn were my tires screaming...NOW i gotta get some tires...i could see how suspension could almost give you a false security, did not feel like i was hardly moving but my speedo and tires told me differently ..so far very happy...mike , what would you rec for daily driving settings on the coilovers? i would search the posts but i know you will see this and give me a good amswer..thanks ..soon as wife gets back in town i will take some snapshots and post them thanks for getting it right mike...if you want i will take a pedders cap and wear with my GET SCREWED kb sc shirts
Start at 15 front and rear. Drive the car a day or two. Drop them down to 3 and drive it a day or two. Raise them to 27 front and rear. Drive the car a day or two. Now you have a good feel for the range of the adjustment and can set your car to exactly where you like it.

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..thanks pete...will do that..hardest thing is that this car is a year old and has 1800 miles.not really a daily driver.. but i will make effort to drive it everyday to get that feel.
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..thanks pete...will do that..hardest thing is that this car is a year old and has 1800 miles.not really a daily driver.. but i will make effort to drive it everyday to get that feel.
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I'm getting the solution b sway bar package installed by JDP Motorsports next weekend. I can't wait!!
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