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Old 07-13-2010, 02:02 PM   #1
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Ceramic Brack Pads

Yesterday I installed Hawk Ceramic brake pads on my SS. I'm sick and tired of all the brake dust. I also sprayed the inside of the wheels with Armour All Wheel Protectant to stop the brake dust from sticking to the wheels. I couldn't believe how easy it was. You don't even have to take the calipers off to change the pads. Just punch out two pins with a punch. Squeeze the tip of the pad and caliper together and pull out the pad. Much easier than the 4th Gen.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:03 PM   #2
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Since I knew I was getting aftermarket chrome wheels, the first thing I did was install Hawk pads to minimize brake dust.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:16 PM   #3
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How's the braking? better or the same.

I also want to change the pads, cause the dust is just ridiculous. i need to clean the wheels every other day to keep them clean.
When i had the V6 brakes i only had to clean them once a week to keep them clean.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:18 PM   #4
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Cant go wrong with Hawks. defiantly worth the extra money compared to autozone brake pads. low noise, low dust, great bite.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:32 PM   #5
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how was the wear on the rotors before you swapped them out? i'm sure they were okay, but if you've but enough miles on the car, they should be resurfaced prior to installing new pads
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:42 PM   #6
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Which model Hawks did you install? They are great I use them on my race car but many are really not for street use.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:47 PM   #7
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Yesterday I installed Hawk Ceramic brake pads on my SS. I'm sick and tired of all the brake dust. I also sprayed the inside of the wheels with Armour All Wheel Protectant to stop the brake dust from sticking to the wheels. I couldn't believe how easy it was. You don't even have to take the calipers off to change the pads. Just punch out two pins with a punch. Squeeze the tip of the pad and caliper together and pull out the pad. Much easier than the 4th Gen.
Glad to hear pad swaps are easy. Don't enjoy changin my brack pads right now... The beauty of Brembo I suppose.





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Old 07-14-2010, 10:35 AM   #8
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Which model Hawks did you install? They are great I use them on my race car but many are really not for street use.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:46 AM   #9
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v6 brakes - Hawk ceramic pad part #s are:

HB638Z.702 front
HB639Z.645 rear

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Old 07-14-2010, 01:03 PM   #10
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I too just had Hawks PC pads and new rotors installed.

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Old 07-14-2010, 01:10 PM   #11
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my father has hawks on his 05 ctsv and says they "go away" once the pads get wet...has anyone experienced this also?
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:27 PM   #12
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my father has hawks on his 05 ctsv and says they "go away" once the pads get wet...has anyone experienced this also?
No issues with wet brake fade with the Hawk ceramic. My SS is my daily driver and I drove through a fair amount of rain this past winter/spring.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:52 PM   #13
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ok i think he had the hps's....i'll look into the hawk ceramics...anyone got a link of where i can get them?
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:34 AM   #14
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ok i think he had the hps's....i'll look into the hawk ceramics...anyone got a link of where i can get them?
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:49 AM   #16
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No issues with wet brake fade with the Hawk ceramic. My SS is my daily driver and I drove through a fair amount of rain this past winter/spring.
I run the Hawk HPS pads at the track and I ran about 12 wet laps last time I was out and the braking didn't change that much, I thought they were pretty good.
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:07 PM   #17
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ok i think he had the hps's....i'll look into the hawk ceramics...anyone got a link of where i can get them?
Front are $128.25
Rear are $111.64

Free shipping If interested, PM me and I'll tell you where to get them.

I got mine special for $212.00 w/shipping.
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:22 PM   #18
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Hawk ceramics was one of the first mods I did as well. Eliminating brake dust was the primary purpose, getting rid of the roller-skate wheel weights was an added bonus.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:09 PM   #19
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mine has the stick on weights on the calipers, when i change to hawk or EBC pads, should i remove the weights or leave them on??
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:43 PM   #20
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mine has the stick on weights on the calipers, when i change to hawk or EBC pads, should i remove the weights or leave them on??
I left my stick on weights in place and have some minor squealing with my Hawk ceramic pads. At first they were pretty quiet; I now have 8,000 miles on the pads and the noise has gotten louder but livable.
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mine has the stick on weights on the calipers, when i change to hawk or EBC pads, should i remove the weights or leave them on??
The damper weights are for that specific OE rotor with that specific OE pad on that specific model (SS). Changing any of those variables means that the equations are all thrown off. So, there is no way to predict whether to keep the weights on or take them off.

If you do take them off and experience brake squeal, there is no way to know if putting them back on will cure it -- unless you have access to the original CAD models and very expensive analysis and simulation software. You may need more weights or less weights or need to place them somewhere else on the caliper. Tuning assemblies for frequency response (brake squeal is caused by undamped vibration) is an involved process that some engineers specialize in. Outside of all that, it's just trial and error!

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Old 07-21-2010, 07:14 PM   #22
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I left my stick on weights in place and have some minor squealing with my Hawk ceramic pads. At first they were pretty quiet; I now have 8,000 miles on the pads and the noise has gotten louder but livable.

Try putting some brake lube on the pins where they contact (go through) the pads.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:58 PM   #23
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I installed EBC pads and cryo treated rotors on the wifes TBSS about 3 weeks ago and am very happy so far. I don't think EBC is making pads for the Camaro yet but I will be looking for them.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:20 AM   #24
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I've had Hawk ceramics for about 2000 miles along with Stillen slotted/drilled rotors, no problems so far! Glad I did the mod, no more black dust! Just a light dust after a while, much better!
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Generally speaking, the better the pad the worst the dust. My track pads at full race Cobalt Friction pads XR1 front and XR3 rear. If you watch racing you are seeing Cobalt Friction pads being destroyed. Carbotech in another stronger player in the racing arena and I use their pads as well. Both the Cobalt Friction and Carbotech pads make my wheels dusty by the end of the block.

The OE SS pads and OE CTS-V pads are really a good combination light track and street pad. I am really surprised that many of you are pleased with the performance of pads that make less dust than OE pads. Interesting thread.
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