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View Poll Results: Should the V6 auto get a LSD?
Yes, it should be a standard feature. 37 51.39%
Yes, it should be an option. 23 31.94%
No, the stability control is enough. 14 19.44%
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:57 AM   #1
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Should the V6 auto get a LSD?

Should the V6 auto get a Limited Slip Differential? As of now all models but the auto V6's will get one, so I would think it would just be easier in terms of streamlining production parts if they offered it. The LSD would most likely improve safety in bad weather conditions (I say most likely since I am not sure about the details of the stability control system). Additionally, since the auto tranny is an extra cost option, I think they should throw in a LSD just cause of the big price jump!
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:08 PM   #2
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I'd like to see it standard...

To me, it doesn't make much sense not to offer it on just one out of four configurable powertrains. I'd like to know their thought process behind the move before nagging about it, though.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:00 PM   #3
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it should be an option just because it shouldnt be that hard for GM. more money for them, and im sure lots would opt for it
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:39 PM   #4
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I'd like to see it standard...

To me, it doesn't make much sense not to offer it on just one out of four configurable powertrains. I'd like to know their thought process behind the move before nagging about it, though.
i think it should be standard.. at least an option...


and i think i know why they are doing it, but havent had any confirmation on the subject yet.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:55 PM   #5
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and i think i know why they are doing it, but havent had any confirmation on the subject yet.
Would you offer us your speculation then, cause I have no idea lol! Fbodfather are you able to tell us why this is not yet avaliable?
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:51 PM   #6
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This is a 2010 model. We had LSDs for how many years now in cars? They put all that safety crap for after the collision like 6 airbags, how about putting safety stuff to prevent one in the first place. Did any of the big shot decision makers ever got stuck in snow in freezing weather because of an inadequate car? Or do they just get driven by limos everywhere? I'm writing in two now three different threads about this. Trying to spread my anger so I don't go overboard.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:48 AM   #7
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I don't see why the Limited Slip Differential shouldn't be included as standard fare! At absolute worst, make it optional. There is another question I'll throw out here that kind of goes with the Limited Slip Differential topic.

Awhile back I read ( I believe it was Doug Houihan ) that they were thinking of maybe offering the FE3 suspension on V6 Camaros. Anybody know where that stands?
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I don't see why the Limited Slip Differential shouldn't be included as standard fare! At absolute worst, make it optional. There is another question I'll throw out here that kind of goes with the Limited Slip Differential topic.

Awhile back I read ( I believe it was Doug Houihan ) that they were thinking of maybe offering the FE3 suspension on V6 Camaros. Anybody know where that stands?
the v6 RS is a fe2/3 or fe2.5 setup other then that there havent been any changes that we know of
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:55 AM   #9
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Not to be a jerk but you can select all 3 options for this poll, I don't think that's proper.
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:19 AM   #10
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It should be an option because I believe it will drive the price up a little ..

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Not to be a jerk but you can select all 3 options for this poll, I don't think that's proper.
It should be standard, an option, and not a feature.
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The LSD would most likely improve safety in bad weather conditions (I say most likely since I am not sure about the details of the stability control system).
Why would an LSD improve safety in bad conditions? It's my experience that a RWD vehicle with LSD gets sideways quickly when the rear wheels spin, whereas an open diff allows one wheel to keep lateral stability while the other spins.

The LSD will get you up to speed faster on wet roads and help avoid getting stuck in snow, but it won't help safety (except the risks involved when you get stuck -- pushing a car isn't safe, nor is being stuck on a slippery road with moving traffic).
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No I think you guys need to realize that they have a low price goal for the entry lvl Camaro. It's marketed to daily drivers.

So no they don't need it. It's got traction control so that helps if your slipping.

If you want the uber performance you need the SS or you wait to upgrade the powertrain later.

All these things people want on entry Camaro are a disaster. If GM can't move the LS in good numbers the car won't be produced for very long.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:52 PM   #14
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I think maybe you are forgetting that camaro has ABS which helps, traction control which helps and it has Stabilitrak stability control system StabiliTrak electronic stability control system --

GM's StabiliTrack electronic stability control system uses sophisticated vehicle sensors tied to the anti-lock braking system to help the driver maintain control during certain maneuvers. The system provides increased vehicle control by continuously monitoring the car's steering angle, individual wheel speed, brake pressure, lateral acceleration and yaw rate. The information is then used to compare the direction the driver is steering with the vehicle's actual path, so the system can make the necessary corrections to help the driver keep the vehicle on path. and traction control standard on all models
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No I think you guys need to realize that they have a low price goal for the entry lvl Camaro. It's marketed to daily drivers.

So no they don't need it. It's got traction control so that helps if your slipping.

If you want the uber performance you need the SS or you wait to upgrade the powertrain later.

All these things people want on entry Camaro are a disaster. If GM can't move the LS in good numbers the car won't be produced for very long.

even so they could still make it an option.
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Not to be a jerk but you can select all 3 options for this poll, I don't think that's proper.
Lol yeah I realized that after I posted it, I had a lot more options but I figured it would not accurately portray the results and I forgot to uncheck the box. Meh I guess you can kinda select the first two and it would make sense.
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:37 PM   #17
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I don't know if it's such a good idea to drive a car on LSD
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No I think you guys need to realize that they have a low price goal for the entry lvl Camaro. It's marketed to daily drivers.

So no they don't need it. It's got traction control so that helps if your slipping.

If you want the uber performance you need the SS or you wait to upgrade the powertrain later.

All these things people want on entry Camaro are a disaster. If GM can't move the LS in good numbers the car won't be produced for very long.
The cheapest camaro ($900 cheaper manual version) has it. So there goes your argument.

You live in Texas where it never snows. You guys don't need it.
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The cheapest camaro ($900 cheaper manual version) has it. So there goes your argument.

You live in Texas where it never snows. You guys don't need it.
Well there is a good deal of bad weather (ice/rain/a little snow) in Dallas and everywhere north, which is quite a few places. And we are not just wanting this for ourselves in Texas, but for everyone and considering it does snow in most other places besides Texas I think it should be included in the $900.
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I know this is a little different. But with the Cobalt SS Turbocharged a viscous LSD is a separate option and costs $495.00 Chevy should at least offer it as a option for around that price...
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I don't want it because it will help in bad weather, I want it because I plan on heavily modding my camaro and I'd like to have power to both rear wheels... (>.<)
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It would be nice if it was at least an option. Then I could order a base V6 version with an AUTO and buy the LS7 for an engine swap. It would be an awesome car for under 40k
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NO. the performance gap is already close enough between the V6 and V8
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I actually didn't pay attention to any of the other posts so I don't even know if any of the V6 camaros (auto or stick) are getting LSD...

But if you plan on doing doing some serious mods to your V6 .... as in converting to F.I. chances are if you're making 400-500hp you're better off just buying an aftermarket LSD.... Which could run you $800-$1100. There's also different types of LSD, Viscous, Quaife, one way, two way, so you'll need to see what's right for you.

That's going to depend on if it's going to be primarily street driven, or taken to the drag strip, or a road course....

Then if you don't know what you are doing it's going to cost you some $$$ for labor, because you have to remove the rear axle then you have to open it up tear out the differential, replace it, seal it back up.... get what I'm saying?

Then it'll probably take some time for the aftermarket industry to even offer LSD's for the Camaro...
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