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Old 01-10-2014, 08:06 AM   #1
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built 6l80 in but performing horribly

So...I blew up the stock tranny and now have a built 6l80 with the 3200 stall that was in the stock tranny. Really getting frustrated b/c the tune frigin sucks on this tranny. It down shifts like a standard, you can't feel it shift at all in the taller gears and if you nail it, its all over the place not knowing where to go. Frustrating.....

The people who built the tranny have sent a couple tunes, all of which have been...less then desirable. The state that I need to use there tune for the warranty. Which, I'd have no problem if the dang thing worked! I'm going to give them another try, but if that doesn't work, I'm looking for recommendations.

Sorry to vent, just getting sick of spending more money than miles.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:16 AM   #2
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PM Rhino79 on this site and ask him to help you. He helped me with a 6L80E tune that was screwed up and getting worse with each revision. In a week or two, with a number of data logs, Rhino had the thing figured out using the remote tune method. You'll need a handheld unit to do it that way, but depending on where you are in LA, you may not be all that far from him in AR.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:23 AM   #3
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Yeah have him look at the tune. If you drive around with a jacked up tune you can sometime burn up the trans.

I used him recently and he made noticeable improvements to what was a pretty good tune.
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So...I blew up the stock tranny and now have a built 6l80 with the 3200 stall that was in the stock tranny. Really getting frustrated b/c the tune frigin sucks on this tranny. It down shifts like a standard, you can't feel it shift at all in the taller gears and if you nail it, its all over the place not knowing where to go. Frustrating.....

The people who built the tranny have sent a couple tunes, all of which have been...less then desirable. The state that I need to use there tune for the warranty. Which, I'd have no problem if the dang thing worked! I'm going to give them another try, but if that doesn't work, I'm looking for recommendations.

Sorry to vent, just getting sick of spending more money than miles.
why look for recommendations if you have a lethal tune?
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:14 AM   #7
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Lethal tuned the stock tranny, with 715 at the wheels, didnt last long. They had nothing to do with the built one. They are just far away to make trucking it to them is a hassle.

94guy, why do i get the feeling with your various PMs, questions and posts to me that your trying to stir something up?

I'll hit Rhino79 up and see what he says. Thanks for the info.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:41 AM   #8
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So...I blew up the stock tranny and now have a built 6l80 with the 3200 stall that was in the stock tranny. Really getting frustrated b/c the tune frigin sucks on this tranny. It down shifts like a standard, you can't feel it shift at all in the taller gears and if you nail it, its all over the place not knowing where to go. Frustrating.....

The people who built the tranny have sent a couple tunes, all of which have been...less then desirable. The state that I need to use there tune for the warranty. Which, I'd have no problem if the dang thing worked! I'm going to give them another try, but if that doesn't work, I'm looking for recommendations.

Sorry to vent, just getting sick of spending more money than miles.
I hope that converter was sent back to the factory for opening and cleaning before it was reused in the new tranny. The 6L80's are very unforgiving when improperly tuned. The clutch packs can be damaged in just a few days of spirited driving. If there is noticeable flaring that occurs during upshifts, it's already too late to "tune away" the problems. I would advise you not to involve a third party until you are 100% certain the transmission is not already hurt because if you do, the builder will claim the 2nd tuner's tune is what caused the damage and you will be SOL.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:43 AM   #9
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If you want to email us the tune I can have my tuner look it over and help out if possible.

Worse case you can drive it to us and we'll get you taken care of, long drive I know, but we're available.
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Lethal tuned the stock tranny, with 715 at the wheels, didnt last long. They had nothing to do with the built one. They are just far away to make trucking it to them is a hassle.

94guy, why do i get the feeling with your various PMs, questions and posts to me that your trying to stir something up?

I'll hit Rhino79 up and see what he says. Thanks for the info.
nothing to do with stirring up anything. lethal can remote tune just like Rhino? based on what your saying you don't trust lethal and for what it's worth I'm on a stock tranny with 40,000 miles and probably 250 track runs.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:36 PM   #11
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I hope that converter was sent back to the factory for opening and cleaning before it was reused in the new tranny. The 6L80's are very unforgiving when improperly tuned. The clutch packs can be damaged in just a few days of spirited driving. If there is noticeable flaring that occurs during upshifts, it's already too late to "tune away" the problems. I would advise you not to involve a third party until you are 100% certain the transmission is not already hurt because if you do, the builder will claim the 2nd tuner's tune is what caused the damage and you will be SOL.
The converter was sent back to Yank and serviced. so yes, that step happened. No noticeable flaring (that what was the first indicator of the failure of the stock tranny). Its all "when" it goes to shift and at what pressure it shifts at. I'm not involving a third party for that exact reason, I'm also not naming names because I'm really hoping my experience is the exception and they will get this fixed ASAP.

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Old 01-10-2014, 12:39 PM   #12
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nothing to do with stirring up anything. lethal can remote tune just like Rhino? based on what your saying you don't trust lethal and for what it's worth I'm on a stock tranny with 40,000 miles and probably 250 track runs.
Maybe I'm just paranoid so I apologize for the half-hearted accusation. I'll take that back.

No distrust with Lethal, just trying to learn from others and figure options. Lethal has done right by me thus far so no reason they wouldn't help with this situation as well.

Glad to hear its lasting you longer then mine did. Everything I heard was it could last a week or it could last years. My luck.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:41 PM   #13
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If you want to email us the tune I can have my tuner look it over and help out if possible.

Worse case you can drive it to us and we'll get you taken care of, long drive I know, but we're available.
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Maybe I'm just paranoid so I apologize for the half-hearted accusation. I'll take that back.

No distrust with Lethal, just trying to learn from others and figure options. Lethal has done right by me thus far so no reason they wouldn't help with this situation as well.

Glad to hear its lasting you longer then mine did. Everything I heard was it could last a week or it could last years. My luck.
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As you know, just has to go to a good tuner to tune in person.Mail order guess work isn't the best.
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As you know, just has to go to a good tuner to tune in person.Mail order guess work isn't the best.
Then how does Rhino do it?
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Then how does Rhino do it?
He uses email and not the USPS, lol.
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He uses email and not the USPS, lol.
That's a good one
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He uses email and not the USPS, lol.
Lol. It takes some time to get a 6l80 right. Some are more challenging than other.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:15 AM   #21
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Builder got back in touch, we are giving this tune a try. Everything seems to be ok, so hopefully this will take care of it.

Thanks for all the advice and input.

Also big thanks to Rhino79 and Steve@SNL/Monster Clutch for offering to help, so far, I don't have to take you up on it!
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Where is your built 6L80 from? I fortunately don't have a need yet, but it doesn't hurt to know where to go should something bad happen.
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Where is your built 6L80 from? I fortunately don't have a need yet, but it doesn't hurt to know where to go should something bad happen.
stock is fine....its ALLLLLL in the tune
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I know...and I feel great about my Livernois tune but if I need a trans swap you guys are way closer!
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