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DarkneSS · 02-22-2011, 01:55 PM

camaro driver left late as hell, looked like it may have been a six too.

porcupinekiller · 02-22-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

camaro driver left late as hell, looked like it may have been a six too.

If you have your audio on you'll hear the announcer say the Camaro guys name and that the car has a LS3.

CamaroFreako · 02-22-2011, 02:16 PM

who care, did you see that crash?

Mr CLuTcH · 02-22-2011, 06:32 PM

Yes, it may have been a SS,....but clearly it looks like the damn car has 22's on it!! It was sitting might high.

KMPrenger · 02-22-2011, 10:14 PM

Not worth posting...anyone with half a brain when it comes to performance cars knows that SS had a horrible run.

TJ91 · 02-23-2011, 01:52 AM

SS had big rims, bad run, v6 took it lol
Now that crash, thats scary

assasinator · 02-23-2011, 09:33 AM

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...p-h-c-i-n.html

h/c/i = 507rwhp. more than most said possible. and not the end. more power is on the way.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-23-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assasinator

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...p-h-c-i-n.html

h/c/i = 507rwhp. more than most said possible. and not the end. more power is on the way.

I did not think they would go that high. That is right with an LS3 (at peak) all the way and only just starting out. Max effort LS3's are at 530RWP with most H/C cars around ~490.

I'll admit I was wrong first hand. That is impressive! I thought 470-480 max.

Is the car stock bottom end and pump gas?

Any idea of the cost on a H/C build for a 5.0? I know the cams would be expensive buying 4. And I also thought that intake was on the pricey side. But then again the 5.0 guys dont have to waste the money on axles etc. Very nice.

How is drive-ability? does it have some lope at idle?

LimaCharlie · 02-23-2011, 11:55 PM

The big, ugly, heavy, 22's+ on the Camaro probably contributed to the poor performance.
The 3.7 V6 in the new Mustangs are pretty impressive, for sure. Other than poor driving skills and the heavy wheels, there is no other reason why the SS lost to the 3.7.....stock for stock.

CRChevy · 02-24-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Yes, it may have been a SS,....but clearly it looks like the damn car has 22's on it!! It was sitting might high.

uhm if 22's on a camaro SS mean that it's goina loose to a mustang v6 something is clearley not right. There is a guy running 10's on 24" all the way around. The v6 mustang should not come close to the ss at all peroid end of story.

CRChevy · 02-24-2011, 07:15 AM

Putting 22" rims on your camaro does not = loosing to mustang v6. there are tons of members with 22's and 24's on here

assasinator · 02-24-2011, 07:39 AM

it costs in the 5k range for everything. cams are regrinds. shop guesses at what will work.

cam manufacturers will 100 percent make more power.

boss302 intake is 289.00.

most are guessing 530rwhp for a streetable combo.

stock bottom end on pump gas. stock bottom end has handled 804rwhp and has hundreds making 600rwhp reliably. its plenty strong for 7800 rpms.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assasinator

it costs in the 5k range for everything. cams are regrinds. shop guesses at what will work.

cam manufacturers will 100 percent make more power.

boss302 intake is 289.00.

most are guessing 530rwhp for a streetable combo.

stock bottom end on pump gas. stock bottom end has handled 804rwhp and has hundreds making 600rwhp reliably. its plenty strong for 7800 rpms.

Cool.

Looks like it has matched the LS3 NA.

BigDan · 02-24-2011, 01:57 PM

^ With the exception of revving to 7,800-8,200rpm

assasinator · 02-24-2011, 02:19 PM

the copperhead PCM is hard coded for 7800 rpm limits. folks are trying to figure out a way around it.

it looks like cam only is in the 460-470rwhp range.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan

^ With the exception of revving to 7,800-8,200rpm

Ya.

Thats got to be a lot of fun!

Some G6x3 cam guys are revving the ls3 to almost 7500. But Im not about to do that!

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assasinator

the copperhead PCM is hard coded for 7800 rpm limits. folks are trying to figure out a way around it.

it looks like cam only is in the 460-470rwhp range.

For now. I bet they get to about 500rwhp cam only in the future with new grinds etc.

32Fountain · 02-25-2011, 08:46 PM

I will buy a new 2011 performance car in the next 30 days. Right now I am leaning toward the Mustang GT 5.0 with the 6M tranny and a 3.73 gear ratio. I have driven both the auto and the manual transmission Mustang with very pleasing results. The dual OHC engine has a unique sound and a tremdous amount of torque for a 5.0 liter engine. The 412 hp rating seems to be understated and the add on performance options are very appealing. There are quite a few companies that are catering to the new Mustang with tuners, CAI systems and exhaust. I am not seeing that with the Camaro. Maybe I just don't know where to look.

Next week I am planning on testing a 2011 Camaro automatic and manual. I have to admit if it was on just looks alone I would be leaning toward the Camaro. However Mustang offers so many options in their appearance groups you can also make the Mustang look pretty darn good as well.

I am asking for your opinion on why I should buy a Camaro over the Mustang.

Thanks,
DL

pbm457 · 02-25-2011, 08:49 PM

As far as the aftermarket goes, I think you'll find the camaro offers more. Just search the forum. I drove a new 5.0 with the 3.73 and agree box stock it's more fun. Good luck.

camarowa · 02-25-2011, 08:54 PM

Only mustang I would ever consider is a grabber blue/white stripe GT500, svtpp and electronics package. Every other mustang is just another mustang, nothing special (some "special" editions excluded).

daveagogo1 · 02-25-2011, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 32Fountain

I will buy a new 2011 performance car in the next 30 days. Right now I am leaning toward the Mustang GT 5.0 with the 6M tranny and a 3.73 gear ratio. I have driven both the auto and the manual transmission Mustang with very pleasing results. The dual OHC engine has a unique sound and a tremdous amount of torque for a 5.0 liter engine. The 412 hp rating seems to be understated and the add on performance options are very appealing. There are quite a few companies that are catering to the new Mustang with tuners, CAI systems and exhaust. I am not seeing that with the Camaro. Maybe I just don't know where to look.

Next week I am planning on testing a 2011 Camaro automatic and manual. I have to admit if it was on just looks alone I would be leaning toward the Camaro. However Mustang offers so many options in their appearance groups you can also make the Mustang look pretty darn good as well.

I am asking for your opinion on why I should buy a Camaro over the Mustang.

Thanks,
DL

The post sounds like an infomercial to by the Mustang. Guess you kinda threw the Camaro a bone on the "looks issue"

Maro2LT · 02-25-2011, 08:57 PM

I would guess, the Camaro has more rep. than the Mustang.
I'd prefer Chevy over Ford.

fielderLS3 · 02-25-2011, 08:59 PM

I'm a bit biased toward the Mustang for obvious reasons. I was planning on getting a Camaro for a long time, but changed my mind at the last minute because the Mustang felt better on the narrow, curvy back-roads near where I live (The new motor helped its case too). I would have to agree that the Camaro looks better though.

You'd probably be very happy with either car. It depends on what you are looking for in a car. For better handling, go with the Mustang. For better style or better brakes, go with the Camaro.

Whichever you decide, though, I would recommend the manual transmission.

ron10 · 02-25-2011, 09:00 PM

sounds like you have already made up your mind.
i also drove a mustang and you can see what i bought.

oldfriend · 02-25-2011, 09:03 PM

HOW are you leaning to the FORD , if you have not tested to CAMARO yet ,that alone tells me that you have your mind set on the blue oval which is okay, but one should drive both of them first then do the pros and cons on each one , but this must be me !

02-22-2011, 01:55 PM	#2976
DarkneSS Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Yonkers, New York Posts: 3,237	camaro driver left late as hell, looked like it may have been a six too. __________________

02-22-2011, 06:32 PM	#2979
Mr CLuTcH Always On Kill! Drives: S.I.M. SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 780	Yes, it may have been a SS,....but clearly it looks like the damn car has 22's on it!! It was sitting might high. __________________ S.I.M. SS(L99): American Racing Headers (LT) Magnaflow cat-back competition exhaust K&N typhoon CAI Aggressive cam. Tune Result*: 465rwhp/ 447rwtq. Satisfied.

02-22-2011, 10:14 PM	#2980
KMPrenger Drives: '10 ABM LT/RS, 01 Ford Ranger Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 7,156	Not worth posting...anyone with half a brain when it comes to performance cars knows that SS had a horrible run. __________________ Shes ALL MINE! - 8/24/2009 2G1FB1EV2A9133373 Custom Magnaflow Exhaust, Vararam intake, MACE Ported Intake Manifold, RX Ported TB, RX "Black Ice" manifold insulator, Mike Norris Catch Can, ZL1 reproduction wheels, DRL Harness, Heritage grill, Street Scene lower grill, NLP Spoiler, ZL1 rockers, Switchblade silver interior, Defenderworx sills, and more!

02-23-2011, 01:52 AM	#2981
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 12,368	SS had big rims, bad run, v6 took it lol Now that crash, thats scary __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

02-23-2011, 09:33 AM	#2982
assasinator 1 n the head,2 n da chest Drives: 2002 cadillac deville Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: huntsville al. Posts: 673	http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...p-h-c-i-n.html h/c/i = 507rwhp. more than most said possible. and not the end. more power is on the way. __________________ rides:2002 Caddy DeVille, 1996 turbo stang gt,1999 jeep wrangler,1999 454 powered GM motorhome,, 2011GT Brembo brake package, RapidSpec 300A, Candy Apple Red, Charcoal interior, 3.73 gears, spoiler delete..1 of 29-E85, offroad X, 82.5mm throttle body, CAI, axleback, E85 TUNE, 420ish rwhp.

02-22-2011, 02:16 PM	#2978
CamaroFreako KMK Drives: Slow V6 Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: kuwait Posts: 499	who care, did you see that crash?

02-23-2011, 11:55 PM	#2984
LimaCharlie Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS - 2004 Silverado Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,113	The big, ugly, heavy, 22's+ on the Camaro probably contributed to the poor performance. The 3.7 V6 in the new Mustangs are pretty impressive, for sure. Other than poor driving skills and the heavy wheels, there is no other reason why the SS lost to the 3.7.....stock for stock. __________________ 2011 Summit White Camaro 1SS/RS -6.2 LS3, TR6060, 3.45, G80 2004 Black Silverado 1500 2WD Regular Cab, Short Bed -5.3 LM7, 4L60E, 3.42, G80

02-24-2011, 07:15 AM	#2986
CRChevy MARO MAN Drives: Orange 2010 Camaro 2RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baton Rouge , LA Posts: 511	Putting 22" rims on your camaro does not = loosing to mustang v6. there are tons of members with 22's and 24's on here __________________ 2LT-RS/nitto invo/hankook venus/straight pipes/slp blackwing air filter/5% window tint all windows/3.00" tips/hood and hockey stripes

02-24-2011, 07:39 AM	#2987
assasinator 1 n the head,2 n da chest Drives: 2002 cadillac deville Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: huntsville al. Posts: 673	it costs in the 5k range for everything. cams are regrinds. shop guesses at what will work. cam manufacturers will 100 percent make more power. boss302 intake is 289.00. most are guessing 530rwhp for a streetable combo. stock bottom end on pump gas. stock bottom end has handled 804rwhp and has hundreds making 600rwhp reliably. its plenty strong for 7800 rpms. __________________ rides:2002 Caddy DeVille, 1996 turbo stang gt,1999 jeep wrangler,1999 454 powered GM motorhome,, 2011GT Brembo brake package, RapidSpec 300A, Candy Apple Red, Charcoal interior, 3.73 gears, spoiler delete..1 of 29-E85, offroad X, 82.5mm throttle body, CAI, axleback, E85 TUNE, 420ish rwhp.

02-24-2011, 01:57 PM	#2989
BigDan Buy American! Drives: 2011 Shelby GT500 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pollock Pines, CA Posts: 1,324	^ With the exception of revving to 7,800-8,200rpm __________________ LS1 powered 79 Toyota Rockcrawler th400, stak 3 speed t-case, dana 60/14 bolt, 42" irok's, coilovers 1972 Monte Carlo 350/350 12 bolt posi 2003 Dodge Ram 3500 6 speed, Cummins Turbo Diesel, 476rwhp/913rwtq

02-24-2011, 02:19 PM	#2990
assasinator 1 n the head,2 n da chest Drives: 2002 cadillac deville Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: huntsville al. Posts: 673	the copperhead PCM is hard coded for 7800 rpm limits. folks are trying to figure out a way around it. it looks like cam only is in the 460-470rwhp range. __________________ rides:2002 Caddy DeVille, 1996 turbo stang gt,1999 jeep wrangler,1999 454 powered GM motorhome,, 2011GT Brembo brake package, RapidSpec 300A, Candy Apple Red, Charcoal interior, 3.73 gears, spoiler delete..1 of 29-E85, offroad X, 82.5mm throttle body, CAI, axleback, E85 TUNE, 420ish rwhp.

02-25-2011, 08:46 PM	#2993
32Fountain Drives: Ford F-250 6.0 Diesel Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chesterfield Posts: 2	2011 Camaro or 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 I will buy a new 2011 performance car in the next 30 days. Right now I am leaning toward the Mustang GT 5.0 with the 6M tranny and a 3.73 gear ratio. I have driven both the auto and the manual transmission Mustang with very pleasing results. The dual OHC engine has a unique sound and a tremdous amount of torque for a 5.0 liter engine. The 412 hp rating seems to be understated and the add on performance options are very appealing. There are quite a few companies that are catering to the new Mustang with tuners, CAI systems and exhaust. I am not seeing that with the Camaro. Maybe I just don't know where to look. Next week I am planning on testing a 2011 Camaro automatic and manual. I have to admit if it was on just looks alone I would be leaning toward the Camaro. However Mustang offers so many options in their appearance groups you can also make the Mustang look pretty darn good as well. I am asking for your opinion on why I should buy a Camaro over the Mustang. Thanks, DL

02-25-2011, 08:49 PM	#2994
pbm457 Drives: 2009 Dodge "Cuda", 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: St. Pete, Fl. Posts: 121 View My Garage	As far as the aftermarket goes, I think you'll find the camaro offers more. Just search the forum. I drove a new 5.0 with the 3.73 and agree box stock it's more fun. Good luck.

02-25-2011, 08:54 PM	#2995
camarowa Drives: 2013 SVT Raptor, sold 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PNW....almost canada Posts: 1,866	Only mustang I would ever consider is a grabber blue/white stripe GT500, svtpp and electronics package. Every other mustang is just another mustang, nothing special (some "special" editions excluded). __________________ - Pfadt Suspension Package; Springs & Sways - Brembo Brake Upgrade (Yellow); Courtesy Fesler Built - Custom Magnaflow Exhaust - Blacked-Out Bowties & RS Emblems, Front bowtie delete - Full Dynamat Extreme Trunk Coverage - Tinted side markers - Interior DSV Customs Leather Upgrades - Airaid CAI V2 - Forgestar F14 Gunmetal 20x9, 20x11 - Doug Thorley Shorties

02-25-2011, 08:57 PM	#2997
Maro2LT Drives: None Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 53	I would guess, the Camaro has more rep. than the Mustang. I'd prefer Chevy over Ford.

02-25-2011, 08:59 PM	#2998
fielderLS3 Drives: 02 Alero, 2011 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Portage, Wisconsin Posts: 4,038	I'm a bit biased toward the Mustang for obvious reasons. I was planning on getting a Camaro for a long time, but changed my mind at the last minute because the Mustang felt better on the narrow, curvy back-roads near where I live (The new motor helped its case too). I would have to agree that the Camaro looks better though. You'd probably be very happy with either car. It depends on what you are looking for in a car. For better handling, go with the Mustang. For better style or better brakes, go with the Camaro. Whichever you decide, though, I would recommend the manual transmission. __________________ "Proven V-8 power with better efficiency than a turbo V-6" "The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive."eds.

02-25-2011, 09:00 PM	#2999
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,254	sounds like you have already made up your mind. i also drove a mustang and you can see what i bought.

02-25-2011, 09:03 PM	#3000
oldfriend Drives: 2010 SS BLK IO interior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 3238' 41"N. 1655'41"W Posts: 5,764 View My Garage	HOW are you leaning to the FORD , if you have not tested to CAMARO yet ,that alone tells me that you have your mind set on the blue oval which is okay, but one should drive both of them first then do the pros and cons on each one , but this must be me ! __________________ 2010 BLK 2SS RS IO

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