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Old 01-05-2011, 04:33 PM   #2466
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You're right, it has THIS rear end.
I would not call this an ugly rear end besides that pic you posted is at a strange angle
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:44 PM   #2467
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Is your rear blackout painted or vinyl? Love the look of it!

Should have your taillight bezels done to match.
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:57 PM   #2468
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Is your rear blackout painted or vinyl? Love the look of it!

Should have your taillight bezels done to match.
vinyl

and I am only going to change my bezels if I get them in real carbon fiber... but vendors want like $400!
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:01 PM   #2469
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and I am only going to change my bezels if I get them in real carbon fiber... but vendors want like $400!
Gotcha! I'm having mine painted flat black when I have the rear of mine painted.

Sorry for the

Now back to our regularly scheduled Mustang vs. Camaro program.
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:04 PM   #2470
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I think a 2011 GT500 is more than a match for any Corvette below the Z06.

In fact..a 2011 GT500 beat the Corvette Grand Sport's time at VIR.

So..you want to match up a 2011 GT500 with a base C6 Corvette? Not quite /ENDTHREAD.
Ok, once more.... the C6 vette is nothing more than a lighwight Camaro with 10 more HP.... so if we can't compare those to a GT500, what else is there.... But, there is a video on youtube of a 2010 Grand Sport vs 2010 GT500 and its not even close..... and there weren't that many changes from 2010 to 2011 on the GT500, so I'm not sure what you're watching.... The vette was almost 4 seconds faster, shorter braking distance, and better handling... sooooooooo what else?
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:07 PM   #2471
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Vipertomcat you are on fire! Stop posting facts tho, you're annoying the owners.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:08 PM   #2472
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wow, this will never end......will a equal bolton 2010SS please race me?

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Old 01-05-2011, 06:10 PM   #2473
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:14 PM   #2474
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I would not call this an ugly rear end
I would, and I do. The rear end of the Camaro is my least favorite part.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:17 PM   #2475
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I would, and I do. The rear end of the Camaro is my least favorite part.
I have no least favorite part
and I do like the way the new mustang looks but this looks way better than the mustangs rear end
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:42 PM   #2476
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wow, this will never end......will a equal bolton 2010SS please race me?

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If you lived closer to Fayetteville NC then you would have all the chances in the world..... as we go about every weekend
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:51 PM   #2477
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Want to throw a GT500 (from a ford dealer) and the Base Corvette coupe in the ring together? They are the same price...

Or how about the Z06 vs the Super Snake. Since somehow a modded camaro isn't allowed to compete against a "Stock" car.

I'd take a Corvette against anything Ford/Shelby has to offer at the same price point.
Ford has no direct competition for the Corvette. The Corvette in any trim level is a "sports car" and a true performance bargain.
The Camaro/Mustang/Challenger's in their higher trim levels are modern muscle cars. Totally different class of cars. Stock to stock the Mustang GT500(the GT500 is a trim level option on a Mustang according to my invoice from Ford)has no competition from the Camaro until the Z28 is released.
I was very close to buying a used C6 Z06 before I bought my GT500. Yes the C6 Z06 is a rocket of a car and I have no doubt that it would take down my GT500 in terms of shear performance. But at the end of the day I choose a new GT500 over a used C6 Z06 (same price point) because on the street the GT500 is a more livable car "for me" and if it's a car I have to live with on a day to day basis I ultimately preferred a muscle car over a sports car and it's a blast to drive. I bought my 2010 GT500 just as the 2011's were about to arrive and got a pretty good deal on it and actually paid within a $1000 of what a friend of mine paid for his loaded 2010 SS L99 last fall. (I live in Canada so everything costs more. Lol)
Right now is a good time to be a car guy and have the choices that we have. GM, Ford and Dodge are all making some pretty cool cars.
You seem to be so hyped up on the Corvette that it makes me wonder why you bought a Camaro SS when you could have bought a couple years old base C6 for about the same money?
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:23 PM   #2478
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Ford has no direct competition for the Corvette. The Corvette in any trim level is a "sports car" and a true performance bargain.
The Camaro/Mustang/Challenger's in their higher trim levels are modern muscle cars. Totally different class of cars. Stock to stock the Mustang GT500(the GT500 is a trim level option on a Mustang according to my invoice from Ford)has no competition from the Camaro until the Z28 is released.
I was very close to buying a used C6 Z06 before I bought my GT500. Yes the C6 Z06 is a rocket of a car and I have no doubt that it would take down my GT500 in terms of shear performance. But at the end of the day I choose a new GT500 over a used C6 Z06 (same price point) because on the street the GT500 is a more livable car "for me" and if it's a car I have to live with on a day to day basis I ultimately preferred a muscle car over a sports car and it's a blast to drive. I bought my 2010 GT500 just as the 2011's were about to arrive and got a pretty good deal on it and actually paid within a $1000 of what a friend of mine paid for his loaded 2010 SS L99 last fall. (I live in Canada so everything costs more. Lol)
Right now is a good time to be a car guy and have the choices that we have. GM, Ford and Dodge are all making some pretty cool cars.
You seem to be so hyped up on the Corvette that it makes me wonder why you bought a Camaro SS when you could have bought a couple years old base C6 for about the same money?
Go back and read some of the post from the last few days and you'll see why the statement you quoted was made.

As for your statement, i agree with you, but some just cant seem to understand that comparing apples to apples is fair which would be a Camaro with a SC added and make it the most comparable competition to the GT500. By adding a SC to the SS doesn't make it fair to a GT500?!?! because its not "STOCK"... How is it not an apple to apple race then?? I mean the GT500 still has an advantage with the weight, and performance handling.... but it would be as close to a future Z28 than anything, and would prolly make a damn good comparo video or magazine since so many depend on that for their info. Good write up tho!!
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:12 PM   #2479
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Sorry but your SS with a supercharger still wont be able to beat the 2011 GT500's 1/4 mile of 11.1@124 stock with stickies.
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:25 PM   #2480
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It may not be able to beat it... but it would be a good race... better than saying " The GT500 crushed the Camaro SS" as Motortrend labeled it when they raced the '10 GT500 vs SS stock to stock..... which i recall the GT500 running 12.8 to the Camaro's 12.9....a total of 29' seperation at the finish line... not so "crushing" when its 540 SC HP vs 426 N/A HP, so it would prolly be alot closer than you think!
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:45 PM   #2481
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It may not be able to beat it... but it would be a good race... better than saying " The GT500 crushed the Camaro SS" as Motortrend labeled it when they raced the '10 GT500 vs SS stock to stock..... which i recall the GT500 running 12.8 to the Camaro's 12.9....a total of 29' separation at the finish line... not so "crushing" when its 540 SC HP vs 426 N/A HP, so it would prolly be alot closer than you think!
You don't really think a stock 2010 GT500 is only capable of 12.80's do you? I think that the SS is an easier car to get max straight line performance out of at its stock HP levels than the GT500 as it puts down its power with less tire spin(and same with the new 5.0 Mustang). I've seen guys at my track run 12.20's in bone stock GT500's with stock tires and sever traction problems and some guys have reportedly hit in the high 11's on stock tires. But it usually takes a fair amount of practice to do so. I can't wait to take mine out to the track in the spring and embarrass myself.
The performance difference between a GT500 and a Camaro SS or new Mustang 5.0 is far greater than what it may seem.
Either way any car that can run 12 second quarter mile stock is pretty impressive!!
It's crazy to think that a new V6 Mustang and Camaro can embarrass many a vintage muscle car.

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Old 01-05-2011, 09:19 PM   #2482
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You don't really think a stock 2010 GT500 is only capable of 12.80's do you? I think that the SS is an easier car to get max straight line performance out of at its stock HP levels than the GT500 as it puts down its power with less tire spin(and same with the new 5.0 Mustang). I've seen guys at my track run 12.20's in bone stock GT500's with stock tires and sever traction problems and some guys have reportedly hit in the high 11's on stock tires. But it usually takes a fair amount of practice to do so. I can't wait to take mine out to the track in the spring and embarrass myself.
The performance difference between a GT500 and a Camaro SS or new Mustang 5.0 is far greater than what it may seem.
Either way any car that can run 12 second quarter mile stock is pretty impressive!!
It's crazy to think that a new V6 Mustang and Camaro can embarrass many a vintage muscle car.
Oh, I know what the GT500 is capable of, but it i was referring to what Motortrend said and how they made it sound like it was just a complete blow away. The Camaro suffers the same wheel spin issue, maybe not as bad as the 5.0, but you gotta know how get off the line without spinning or letting the tq managment take over and cut out to stop wheel spin.

My interest is seeing a SS modded to the same level as the GT500 and then run em through the paces and see what the differences are..... Alot ppl say thats not stock to stock, but running em before the 5.0 came back was far from fair. I say modding the Camaro with a SC and maybe some minor suspension would be equivalent to the GT500 stock.... so say its modded vs stock, but its all equivalent HP... not really any advantage one way or the either.
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