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Old 11-13-2008, 12:24 AM   #1
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Auto vs Manual V6 Camaro

Hi I wanted your opinion on which will be quicker in the 1/4 mile, the Manual or Auto v6 camaro. I know the manual will have LSD, but won't we be able to put a high stall converter in the Auto???
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:03 AM   #2
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My guess is that it will be the manual.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:47 AM   #3
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In the case that you are a VERY good driver, I would say manual will be a tad faster. Although, I can see the auto being faster for an average driver.

But that's just me, I could be completely wrong.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:27 PM   #4
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thanks. Anyone else???
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Hi I wanted your opinion on which will be quicker in the 1/4 mile, the Manual or Auto v6 camaro. I know the manual will have LSD, but won't we be able to put a high stall converter in the Auto???
Seems the new 6 speed auto is very good!!!
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:44 AM   #6
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There is no way you can put a high stall verter into a car with no LSD. First mod you have to do is swap a LSD in there. You will need to swap an entire housing over since the one without LSD is supposedly smaller. I'm not surprised GM is going under with these genius decisions they make.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:41 PM   #7
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There is no way you can put a high stall verter into a car with no LSD. First mod you have to do is swap a LSD in there. You will need to swap an entire housing over since the one without LSD is supposedly smaller. I'm not surprised GM is going under with these genius decisions they make.
Kinda goes with the RS package and even if you live in Alaska you got no choice but summer tires. Take it or leave it.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:03 AM   #8
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In the case that you are a VERY good driver, I would say manual will be a tad faster. Although, I can see the auto being faster for an average driver.

But that's just me, I could be completely wrong.
totally agree, unless you're really good with a stick, considering how hard GM worked to match these cars evenly the auto will take it in the 1/4 it comes to reaction and how quick you can snatch gears.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:13 PM   #9
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I am newbie so what does lSD mean ?
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:20 PM   #10
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I am newbie so what does lSD mean ?
Limited Slip Differential. Equal power to both wheels at all times.
If you want to read more about it here's a link that explains it: http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kb.php?aid=154
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:15 AM   #11
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Limited Slip Differential, yes. Equal power to both wheels at all times? No. "Nearly" equal. If it was equal power at all times, it would be a solid rear axle and would chirp badly in close quarter turns like an old 4X4 with a solid transfer case. Limited means it aims to mitigate the inequality of power between the rear wheels, not eliminate it. Otherwise it would be a Non-slip, non-differential, since that's what a differential is for.

For the newbie, the reason a differential is needed is because any time a car turns, the outside wheels travel a greater distance than the inside wheels. If this difference is not rectified mechanically, stress on the driveline will be encountered and will either most likely find its relief through tire drag or in extreme cases, mechanical failure of driveline pieces.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:20 AM   #12
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Also- as for the original topic, take into account the big differences in drive ratios between the auto and manual LLT cars. The auto has a really long final drive, making me think that GM engineers were motivated to make the auto match the manual in MPG over 1/4 mile times. I wouldn't be surprised if the manual is quicker by a car length in the quarter. True the auto shifts quicker and all other factors equal would be faster, but the ratio factor isn't even close, let alone equal. The manual V6 car has the deepest 1st gear ratio of all available configurations and the shortest final drive ratio in 6th gear. Food for thought, we won't know until we know.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:34 PM   #13
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The answer is simple for me.

I wouldn't want the car without that six-speed manual gearbox.

No fun at all without it.

The car is about fun.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:22 AM   #14
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You can always play with the tapshift. I want/need the auto for simplicity as it will be a daily driver and dare I say it, will be on the phone occasionally.
Performance wise I think they both will be about the same but with an exceptional driver I think the manual will come out on top. For regular drivers I think the auto will beat the manual by a hair!
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:29 AM   #15
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On a somewhat related note, the shift feel and clutch feel on the V6 camaro is superb!
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I'm with Flighttester on this one. I've no intention of buying a Camaro with an automatic. Tapshift is not an acceptable substitute.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:21 PM   #17
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Limited Slip Differential, yes. Equal power to both wheels at all times? No. "Nearly" equal. If it was equal power at all times, it would be a solid rear axle and would chirp badly in close quarter turns like an old 4X4 with a solid transfer case. Limited means it aims to mitigate the inequality of power between the rear wheels, not eliminate it. Otherwise it would be a Non-slip, non-differential, since that's what a differential is for.

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This is a great answer!
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:41 PM   #18
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I'm with Flighttester on this one. I've no intention of buying a Camaro with an automatic. Tapshift is not an acceptable substitute.
I would have to agree but I can't because I have had operations on my knee and live in Dallas. I'm going to get the auto but back when I was in my 20's I wouldn't be caught dead in an auto.
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Old 01-05-2009, 07:49 PM   #19
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I'll be getting the manual, but I expect they will be very close in the 1/4. Around a road course? The manual should win hands down.
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Old 01-05-2009, 08:21 PM   #20
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I would have to agree but I can't because I have had operations on my knee and live in Dallas. I'm going to get the auto but back when I was in my 20's I wouldn't be caught dead in an auto.
yea im 21 and have had 2 knee surgeries already.....but thank god the athritis hasnt kicked in yet lol....
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:32 PM   #22
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That sucks... if it makes you feel any better, my fiance broke her hip (pencil width fracture) at 18 so...
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damn that sucks.... its all good tho im hitting up the gym everyday and getting better and closer to playing ball once again.

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Old 01-06-2009, 01:04 AM   #24
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Yeah - she's doing much better now.

My left leg is doing just fine though, so manual only for me!
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Well while this thread is jacked, I'll go along. I'm 21 and both my knees are shot too. I went out for a spin on GMR today (enjoying a fresh set of Nitto Neo Gens!) and since the stock seats in the Cobalt LS suck something awful, I had to work my left leg against the dead pedal hard just to stay in a good driving position, and it killed me after a while. I'll still be getting the manual though. For now, the knee pain (which isn't too frequent) isn't enough to overcome the extra fun of the manual. Good to hear that the clutch action is good. How do you know this xanthos? Now my only decision is between a 1LT RS or a 1SS.
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