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Old 07-20-2010, 05:02 PM   #1
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Pfadt Über-leicht SHIFTER development contest!

Good news everyone!

As we reported a couple of months ago, we have had an ultra-light shifter in the works for some time. After some revised engineering, and a bold new material choice, we have arrived at the Pfadt Über-leicht Shifter you see below!

As expected, like most everything else on the car, the shifter is no exception. The OEM shifter weighs in at ~2.375 lbs with knob. The Über-leicht? Try a scant .875 lbs.

Throw reduction on this version comes in at ~25%, while we engineered the gate spacing to remain the same.

So heres the lowdown: We have 6 of these things just itching to get into peoples cars. And as a special consideration to you guys, we want them to be developed by people we know will give them the test miles they deserve!

So here is our proposed contest: Tell us why you think you should be a Pfadt development member, and the best 6 responses, will get to test out the lightest unit on the market, pro-bono. The only catch is that in return for this, we are expecting valuable feedback. We want to hear your impressions, and suggestions if any. We have run it in our own development car for quite some time now, and absolutely love it. But this is a very subjective component.

So I will open it up now, and we will close the running on 8/3. After that, we will make our decision, and post up with the winners.

So...I ask again...who wants to test one out? Post responses in this thread.



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Old 07-20-2010, 05:14 PM   #2
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Cuz i drive it like I STOLE it, tearing up the streets....
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:17 PM   #3
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Me! Why?

Because I'm down the road from you.
I'm very vocal. I'll share my findings with tons of people.
I have experience with the stock shifter and now the Hurst (which I currently have installed).
I will test this out at Miller Motorsports Park during W.O.W.

Um...that's all I got. Oh and I'm cool.

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Old 07-20-2010, 05:38 PM   #4
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I would love to test your new shifter as I am always looking for the best compnents offered and Pfadt is definitely a cutting edge company as I am not only saying this but also use Pfadt components on my car. I am an extreme camaro enthusiast and am always reading and researching the newest ideas and waiting to see what will come next as development products are coming out day after day. I have put over $100k into my new 2010 Camaro and only use the best compnents offered as this is a no holds barred kinda car. I have had 2 different shifters in my car, so I know what is working for me and what I am not happy with. I am a very active member in the forums and am always trying to give honest opinions to help out other camaro enthusiast as I have done alot of the work myself and through trial and error, am finding what works on these cars and what doesnt. My car is currently having a new engine upgrade and will be pushing 1200-1300hp to the rear wheels and will be used as a daily driver and be used on the track regularly. I will definitely put the new shifter to the test and will document every step from install to real world use with pics and daily updates. I just have an extreme desire for learning these camaros and would be very excited to be part of a testing group.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:02 PM   #5
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+1 on drive it like you stole it!!! LOL

I shift so hard that I broke my transmission at 5k miles (apparently)! (Gear key gave out on 2nd gear). I have a V6 M6 so maybe testing in a 6 would give some valuable feedback as far as the feel in the little brother transmission.

PM if interested in letting me give your awesome product a shot!
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:06 PM   #6
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OK lets see....

I can delete everyone elses posts so it looks like I'm the only one....




Nah JK. This is a great opportunity for our members!

Well done Pfadt! Thanks for hooking up the Camaro5 faithful!

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Old 07-20-2010, 06:09 PM   #7
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Can't compete with 1000+ horsepower but hope to be considered as one of the six. I hope you support the V-6 enthusiats as we need some love too. I have installed a single turbo and will plan to drive it hard. Oh, and I do use Pfadt Springs, Sways, and End Links. Considering more but have been spending the past month focussing on getting the Turbo done (I'll test anything else you got like coilovers). I will gladly do videos and will take it to the Autocross! Also consider:

I am Pfadt - at about 235 lbs. - My wife says I'm Pfadt - I think in the good way and my daughter says I'm Pfadt - but I think in the Santa Claus way. And I just put on some Pfadt tires!

Robbin, please pardon my use of the name, I know how its' pronounced since I have Pfadt the law once before myself (but I lost).

Oh, and I'm in Hawaii. You can come and check my install this winter!

P.S. I currently do have the Hurst shifter.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:14 PM   #8
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I am a mechanical engineer that can appreciate the work required on a component like this. I also happen to drive my car extremely hard on the street and track. While doing so I scrutinize the performance and quality of just about every component on the vehicle. Both my Camaro and Corvette have seen multiple component iterations based on product performance, quality, durability, data collection,etc. I have used multiple shifters on my Corvette and ended up with MGW for several reasons. I currently run the MGW on the Camaro, as well, but would love to evaluate the Pfadt shifter and give you some credible feedback.

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Old 07-20-2010, 06:18 PM   #9
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Ahh dang, now theres a better v6 than mine salivating for one. Z you deserve it more than me for holding the 6 banner to such a high standard!
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:37 PM   #10
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If your product is awesome, I will tell you.

If your product sucks, I will tell you to Uber-leicht my balls.


Ball-joints, that is . . .
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:44 PM   #11
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Because i Love you.......... long pause.........i guess that wont work.

I am an Electrical Engineer with some background in mechanical. I am the pickiest person you will ever find. Both me and my uncle will be installing it into my car. My uncle has been a mechanic over 30 years and he is just as picky as me.

Also i will tell you how it is. For example, i like that its super light weight but i dont like the shift knob. Can i put my stock shift knob or a MGW shift knob on it lol. I like the factory look.
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:58 PM   #12
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Alot of mechanical engineers here. I'm a Purdue ME. Where did you guys go?
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:59 PM   #13
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+1 on drive it like you stole it!!! LOL

I shift so hard that I broke my transmission at 5k miles (apparently)! (Gear key gave out on 2nd gear). I have a V6 M6 so maybe testing in a 6 would give some valuable feedback as far as the feel in the little brother transmission.

PM if interested in letting me give your awesome product a shot!
LOL! yea mine has developed a squeak!
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:43 PM   #14
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Looks like a nice unit !!
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:06 PM   #15
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I freaking stoked to see these things moving along!

I'll vouch for jrpxxii, he is the kind of guy you are looking for..
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:11 PM   #16
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:13 AM   #17
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Hey Thanks Apex Chase. You are going to be shocked at the new build Im doing. Ditched the 418ci LS3 completely and started from scratch with an LSX 454 and pushing everything to the limit of performance. It is going to be an insane ride. Hopefully by our next gathering it will be ready to roll.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:36 AM   #18
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I can do an HD YouTube video comparing stock to the uber shifter.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:01 PM   #19
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:11 PM   #20
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Check the glove compartmentB(kidding)
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Hey Thanks Apex Chase. You are going to be shocked at the new build Im doing. Ditched the 418ci LS3 completely and started from scratch with an LSX 454 and pushing everything to the limit of performance. It is going to be an insane ride. Hopefully by our next gathering it will be ready to roll.
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I would definitely love the opportunity to test one of these bad boys. I have a daily driven 1ss/rs m6 ls3 with a few mods. I put on about 50 miles a day with my commute. With the amount of miles i drive, it would give you guys some great feedback! Another reason i would be good for this is because I am your average gear-head hobbyist and i could give you feedback from the non-ASE certified side of things. Please let me know if I'll be lucky enough to try this out!

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Old 07-22-2010, 12:30 PM   #24
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I'd be willing to test this if given the opportunity.

I drive a 2SS 20-25 miles one way to work and home every day. About 60-70% or so city.
I also have a wife that drives my car and can have two opinions on it.

I have been driving a manual for 10+ years.
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Car is bone stock. This would be first modification, and would be a shop install.
Distance-West Virginia tester would give you the opinion of someone from a completely different area then where you are based. Not to mention i drive this car a lot. A lot as in 4000 miles in month and half.

Commute- a varied commuting, starting in a small city, to interstate, to coal truck ridden highway, to another small city. Some stop and go, but several opportunities to open her up. Also it about 30+ miles one way

Age- since I'm 22, I'm one of the younger camaro owners. It would provide a unique viewpoint considering most camaro owners are generally older then myself.

I'm an engineer as well...not an ME, but I can fully appreciate mechanics.
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