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Old 11-14-2008, 04:29 PM   #1
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Lightbulb BMW M3 vs. Camaro SS?

this may sound stupid but just think about it for a second. whats your opinion?
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:49 PM   #2
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c'mon guys!
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:00 PM   #3
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The M3 gets a 0-60 in 4.6 seconds which is close to the same as the Camaro has tested. Handling in the BMW may be better overall however they are in a different price category..
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:02 PM   #4
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The Camaro SS wins. I've been having this argument with one of my buddies for a while.
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:03 PM   #5
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M3 is a great sports car.

You can get a brand new 2008 Corvette Z06 for the same money (approx. $60,000) similarly equipped.

Care to meet me at the lights Z06 vs M3? Noooo...

M3

Curb Weight: 3704 lbs.


Performance
Base Number of Cylinders: 8 Base Engine Size: 4 liters
Base Engine Type: V8 Horsepower: 414 hp

Max Horsepower: 8300 rpm Torque: 295 ft-lbs.

Wimpy torque number, no snap your neck instant go fun.

I'd love an M3 in my warehouse, but first I will buy a Camaro and Corvette.
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:15 PM   #6
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i've owned 2 BMWs and have grown a veyr strong liking to them, i'd grab the M3 sedan (not the coupe) over the camaro mostly because i love the practicality of 4 doors. all the luxuries help it up there as well. all the specs are thrown out there so its obvious they're very close.
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i've owned 2 BMWs and have grown a veyr strong liking to them, i'd grab the M3 sedan (not the coupe) over the camaro mostly because i love the practicality of 4 doors. all the luxuries help it up there as well. all the specs are thrown out there so its obvious they're very close.

So for that kind of money and wanting 4 doors why don't you buy at CTS-V for the same price (or less). I bet its lap times at Nuremburg were faster, as are all the acceleration figures. More interior room too. Plenty of luxuries....
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:24 PM   #8
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I'd take an M3 sedan over a SS,
not saying that I don't wish I had the Camaro, just that overall the M3 would be better.(But it costs way more so what do you expect?)
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:26 PM   #9
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i dont think the m3 will hold much of an edge, but it will win out by a small margin through the twisties.....but never in a straight line.
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On the drag strip, SS will take it without a doubt. On the track, thats a tough one ........
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Yeah. What are we using as a basis of comparison? Price? straight line performance?

Straight line is tough. The Camaro SS, and M3 are probably going to trap around the same. But 0-60 I've seen car magazines saying the M3 will do 0-60 in 4.6 and others have said it does 0-60 in like 4.3.

Price? Advantage Camaro SS for sure...

On a track though. I'd say advantage M3.

Overall conclusion.... Just buy yourself a base Corvette, spend less money and just whoop the M3 silly...
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So for that kind of money and wanting 4 doors why don't you buy at CTS-V for the same price (or less). I bet its lap times at Nuremburg were faster, as are all the acceleration figures. More interior room too. Plenty of luxuries....
originally there were only options A and B(which i chose from), now you throw in option C!
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Well...I figured he had'nt considered it since the car won't be on the street for a month or so. Besides....I could'nt help but to wave the American flag in front of him being that the CTS-V is faster than both the BMW and the Camaro anyhow. And when he mentioned 4 doors........

There is no doubt in my mind that if I could afford it I would buy the CTS-V over the Camaro in a heartbeat. The performance difference is huge. And luxury with it????? WOW!

I love my current 07 CTS, and can't imagine how nice it would be to have that supercharged (but detuned a bit) ZR-1 powerplant in it. I hear it can go sideways from a roll in a heartbeat. BMW at the same price or more???? No way.
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Im still trying to figure out why we are even comparing cars that are not even close to the same price bracket.........

Next up pinto vs enzo vs camaro vs f-35........ smile people im messing around!
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How about Pinto vs Vega vs Gremlin! :updown:
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you forgot yugo..... Now that would be a funny drag bracket!
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Here is what Car and Driver got w/ the sedan ..

Run the M3 through the six close-ratio manual gears, and the snarl becomes an Indian battle whoop as you approach the engine’s stratospheric 8400-rpm limit. Outperforming the last M3 coupe we tested by 0.2 second, the sedan galloped to 60 mph in 4.1 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 12.6 seconds at 113 mph.

Stock for Stock, I don't think the SS will be able to hang .. however, I do believe mods will be cheaper ..

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[QUOTE=shnomac77;191516]Im still trying to figure out why we are even comparing cars that are not even close to the same price bracket.........


Ergo: Option C. Now we're comparing apples to apples in terms of BMW vs CTS huh?
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:25 AM   #19
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Sorry guys and girls but I have owned a BMW M3 form 2005 and have driven the new M3 V8 and I am sorry to say BMW M3 will take the SS all day.
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Sorry guys and girls but I have owned a BMW M3 form 2005 and have driven the new M3 V8 and I am sorry to say BMW M3 will take the SS all day.
less torque, i will give it twisties but i wont give it straight aways.
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You know, I could believe an M3 Sedan take out a Pontiac G8 GXP, but I say the SS could come REAL close at nearly half the price. "best bang for the buck"
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M3 sedan ANY day. No comparison IMO. Silly comparison. Compare the 135i to the Camaro SS. Not as much of a price difference. I am on a fence between a Camaro SS/RS manual and the BMW 135i manual in Alpine white with red Coral interior with grey poplar trim. I drove a 135i alone last week and it kicked ass BIG time. Best car I have EVER driven by FAR.
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less torque, i will give it twisties but i wont give it straight aways.
"quarter-mile in 12.6 seconds at 113 mph" for the M3

You dont need a-lot-o TQ to be fast .

But for less 1/2 the price of a M3 its going to be a h3ll of a ride
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From Wiki on Nurburgring laps,

8:22 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS verified manufacturer time[citation needed]
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD
8:22 BMW M3 E46 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2000)
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/8 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (10/1998)
8:24 Audi S5 Sport Auto (01/2008)

If the M3 E46 did it in 8:22, and the camaro in 8:20 then yeah, it will beat it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

For the new one? I do not think so....
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M3 sedan ANY day. No comparison IMO. Silly comparison. Compare the 135i to the Camaro SS. Not as much of a price difference. I am on a fence between a Camaro SS/RS manual and the BMW 135i manual in Alpine white with red Coral interior with grey poplar trim. I drove a 135i alone last week and it kicked ass BIG time. Best car I have EVER driven by FAR.
I currently own the 135i .. I think stock for stock in the twistys it would win .. straights, the SS would win. I think you should go w/ the camaro SS because I believe that for the cost, you can get more power and excitement out of it ... if you have lots of money to burn .. you could get some good power out of the 135i, but currently the fuel system and small turbos are the limiting factors ..

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