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Old 08-22-2010, 10:48 AM   #26
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That is perfect.....thanks....helps me out also!!!

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Old 08-28-2010, 11:09 AM   #27
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The Borla Exhaust have been HUGE sellers...Since they are so popular and I get the same questions, I wanted to share some thoughts before you make a decision on which one to go with...

There are several flavors for the Camaro now.....
In the ATAK Series you have the
Camaro ATAK CatBack Exhaust System

Camaro Axleback ATAK Exhaust
Camaro ATAK Catback Exhaust for Camaros with Ground Effects Package
Camaro ATAK Axleback Exhaust for Camaros with Ground Effects Package

Then you have the Borla Camaro Catback Touring System (which does not sound much different than stock. For the person who wants the increased performance with no additional change in exhaust note)

and then in the Borla Sport lineup (which is my favorite)...
Camaro Borla Sport Catback
Camaro Borla Sport Axleback Exhaust

and the only 3" Borla system (OEM system and the other above systems are 2.5")
Borla 3" Camaro Sport Catback Exhaust If you get the 3" system, you will also want to get a new Camaro Billet Tunnel Brace as the 3" system will most likely touch your OEM tunnel Plate and rattle, which will drive you nuts!!!

Some thoughts before purchasing any of them.....

All of the Axle back systems require cutting them OEM system (which i am not a fan of, just in case you ever want to go back to stock). There is also one more "dirty"secret about the Axelbacks which needs to be known....When you install the Axleback it leaves in place the OEM Pre Muffler that is up towards the middle of the car. Not a big deal, but it DOES change the exhaust note slightly as compared to the Catback systems and does not make the L99 system a true dual exhaust as the Catback does.

Both Axle Back and Catback systems are great systems and make a huge improvement in sound, but if you can afford to spring for the extra cash, do it right and get the Catback.

From a sound perspective, you have the touring which sound not much different than stock. Then the Sport (my favorite) which bumps it up a notch from the sound perspective, but not too much. At the ATAK which is the most aggressive sounding of them all.

All of Borla's systems are awesome, but thought prospective shoppers would want to know the down and dirty on each one...

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Old 08-31-2010, 12:59 AM   #28
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what about Borla LT's?
Any comments on those?
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The Borla Exhaust have been HUGE sellers...Since they are so popular and I get the same questions, I wanted to share some thoughts before you make a decision on which one to go with...


Both Axle Back and Catback systems are great systems and make a huge improvement in sound, but if you can afford to spring for the extra cash, do it right and get the Catback.

From a sound perspective, you have the touring which sound not much different than stock. Then the Sport (my favorite) which bumps it up a notch from the sound perspective, but not too much. At the ATAK which is the most aggressive sounding of them all.

All of Borla's systems are awesome, but thought prospective shoppers would want to know the down and dirty on each one...

See ya,

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Looks interested. Can you post some photos of Borla's systems? I think I will buy some if I got impressed to it.

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Looks interested. Can you post some photos of Borla's systems? I think I will buy some if I got impressed to it.
There are images of the various Borla systems on each page, but this video may give you more of an idea. This is our install video we put together for the Sport Catback System, and you can see under the Camaro, as well as the Borla system as directly compared to the stock by watching this. You'll also be able to hear the exhaust tone with the Borla installed.

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Old 09-04-2010, 07:45 PM   #31
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Do note if you have OEM gfx, the Borla systems don't come with tips and look like butt.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:56 PM   #32
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what about Borla LT's?
Any comments on those?
The Borla Long Tubes are fantastic systems, constructed from the same high quality 304 Stainless Steel that Borla uses for their exhausts. A complete header and exhaust combination will provide HP and Torque benefits well above the stock, and also give your Camaro a really mean and aggressive exhaust note. Of course, because this is Borla, the tone will be both aggressive and clean and provide you a powerful crescendo all the way up the RPM range. Of course, there are some downsides to Long Tube header packages. An exhaust is basically plug and play, but a full Long Tube header system will require a tune to get the true performance and efficiency benefits it offers. The install on a header package isn't as easily managed in a garage either, and is recommended to be done by a mechanic (unless you yourself are well experienced). Because of these reasons, and the increased price, LT headers tend to be less popular than Cat-Back exhaust options, even though their performance and tonal benefits are typically three-fold. If you are looking to purchase a complete Borla LT Header set, of course, I would look at combining the package with the Borla Exhaust of your choice for a full front to back exhaust upgrade. It is easier to install both at the same time than it is to do them separately, and will save $$ on the install cost.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:21 AM   #33
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Do note if you have OEM gfx, the Borla systems don't come with tips and look like butt.
They don't have tips, but a decent muffler shop can easily cut and then attach the stock GFX tips is this is an issue for you. Sadly, b/c of the stock GFX, Borla hasn't been able to build a system with tips to meet that body kit. Of course, the lack of tips is also almost completely hidden by the GFX kit, and the "looking like butt" aspect is definitely a matter of personal opinion. I think it still looks pretty great, because, let's be honest, Camaros always look pretty great.

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Old 10-21-2010, 02:48 PM   #34
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Does the 3" system drone as much as the normal S-type?
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Does the 3" system drone as much as the normal S-type?
The two systems are really comparable in tone, and the 3" is even a bit louder, so yes, the drone will be similar. I don't think the S-Type drone is bad, though, unless you're using the system with a header package. With just the cat-back, it doesn't bother me enough to ever annoy me, and really only requires that I turn my radio up just a tiny bit louder than I did before. Of course, drone is subjective to the driver, and maybe my tolerance for it is high, but, I simply can't understand if anybody would complain about it with the S-Type exhaust.

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Old 12-30-2010, 02:22 PM   #36
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Okay talk about the Borla systems for V6'ers. I am at decision time & everyone I talk to changes my mind. My most recent choice was Borla axle back because the last guy said "if you are not going to add headers at some point I would save the extra $ & go with axle back, there is not that much difference in sound or performance". What say you?
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #37
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Okay talk about the Borla systems for V6'ers. I am at decision time & everyone I talk to changes my mind. My most recent choice was Borla axle back because the last guy said "if you are not going to add headers at some point I would save the extra $ & go with axle back, there is not that much difference in sound or performance". What say you?
If you're serious about adding headers down the road, he's right, the axle-back is the way to go, specifically because the axle-back will connect more directly to a long-tube headers set than a cat-back exhaust will. However, if the $1k investment of headers doesn't seem like something you're completely serious about down the road, I'd recommend the cat-back exhaust. You will get an improvement on performance (albeit, a fairly small one), but the difference in exhaust tone/volume will be very noticeable between the two. Really, it boils down to what it is you're looking for out of your exhaust right now, and what your long term plans are.

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Old 12-30-2010, 06:08 PM   #38
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Ok I have a Camaro Convertible on order and want to add a CAI and Borla Touring exhaust. Any tuning needed for this. And is their any drone with the touring system. The top will be down most of the time and I don't want to much drone. Thanks.
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Ok I have a Camaro Convertible on order and want to add a CAI and Borla Touring exhaust. Any tuning needed for this. And is their any drone with the touring system. The top will be down most of the time and I don't want to much drone. Thanks.
No tuning should be necessary with that combination, but, a little tuning never hurts, heh. Both of those modifications are bolt and go, though, so you should be fine. As far as cabin drone, the Touring is the ideal exhaust if minimizing cabin drone if your primary concern. The two modifications are the perfect ones to start with on a new car, and should give your new Camaro Convertible some extra get up and go. Please share pictures of the car once you've got it, too, love seeing them on the forums here, and that convertible is one good looking car.
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I too have a vert on order and want to up the ATAK system on it but I'm not too sure if it would be too loud with the top down. Any thoughts?

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I have been researching and shopping around for the right setup for me as I am looking to add a new exhaust very soon. Thanks for this thread! its been a big help.
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I too have a vert on order and want to up the ATAK system on it but I'm not too sure if it would be too loud with the top down. Any thoughts?
You shouldn't get too much drone, but, that's very subjective. What's acceptable to some people, isn't acceptable to others. With the coupe, cabin drone's very minimal, even with the aggressive ATAK, but with the ragtop it will probably be a little more. I love the ATAK, and the ATAK sound, but haven't been inside of a vert with one installed yet, so I can't say for certain, sadly. I can't imagine it would be too bad, as that's a very intelligently designed and manufactured system, but again, I can't say for certain.

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I have been researching and shopping around for the right setup for me as I am looking to add a new exhaust very soon. Thanks for this thread! its been a big help.
I'm really happy that this was able to help! Hope you find the perfect exhaust for you!

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One thing to consider about the axle back vs the cat back. I installed the cat back system by myself with tools only (I'm no spring chick). I would have to cut the axle backs and possibly take it in to a shop to do that...that's extra money for the total installed price. One should factor the price difference in the total installed price. Some say it's cheaper to do the axle back but by how much? Being able to install the system yourself also gets you a "FREE" torque wrench!!!! and the gratification of a DIY!
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One thing to consider about the axle back vs the cat back. I installed the cat back system by myself with tools only (I'm no spring chick). I would have to cut the axle backs and possibly take it in to a shop to do that...that's extra money for the total installed price. One should factor the price difference in the total installed price. Some say it's cheaper to do the axle back but by how much? Being able to install the system yourself also gets you a "FREE" torque wrench!!!! and the gratification of a DIY!
Awesome! Good work! Yeah, that's definitely something to consider, and the actual install for a cat-back isn't that difficult if you have access to the right tools. And, yeah, the feeling of a job well done is fantastic.

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Bought my ATAK Catback from Southern Car Parts , great guys to deal with . I had an issue with my system as Borla had 2 left mid pipes in my kit and Southern hooked me right up and we got it done . And the ATAK is awesome .
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Bought my ATAK Catback from Southern Car Parts , great guys to deal with . I had an issue with my system as Borla had 2 left mid pipes in my kit and Southern hooked me right up and we got it done . And the ATAK is awesome .
Glad you like it, and I'm happy we were able to get everything taken care of and handled for you quickly when that issue did arrive. Thanks for the props, and it's always happy to hear about another happy customer. You're right, too, the ATAK is definitely awesome. It quickly became my favorite Camaro exhaust system.

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The Borla Exhaust have been HUGE sellers...Since they are so popular and I get the same questions, I wanted to share some thoughts before you make a decision on which one to go with...

There are several flavors for the Camaro now.....
In the ATAK Series you have the
Camaro ATAK CatBack Exhaust System

Camaro Axleback ATAK Exhaust
Camaro ATAK Catback Exhaust for Camaros with Ground Effects Package
Camaro ATAK Axleback Exhaust for Camaros with Ground Effects Package

Then you have the Borla Camaro Catback Touring System (which does not sound much different than stock. For the person who wants the increased performance with no additional change in exhaust note)

and then in the Borla Sport lineup (which is my favorite)...
Camaro Borla Sport Catback
Camaro Borla Sport Axleback Exhaust

and the only 3" Borla system (OEM system and the other above systems are 2.5")
Borla 3" Camaro Sport Catback Exhaust If you get the 3" system, you will also want to get a new Camaro Billet Tunnel Brace as the 3" system will most likely touch your OEM tunnel Plate and rattle, which will drive you nuts!!!

Some thoughts before purchasing any of them.....

All of the Axle back systems require cutting them OEM system (which i am not a fan of, just in case you ever want to go back to stock). There is also one more "dirty"secret about the Axelbacks which needs to be known....When you install the Axleback it leaves in place the OEM Pre Muffler that is up towards the middle of the car. Not a big deal, but it DOES change the exhaust note slightly as compared to the Catback systems and does not make the L99 system a true dual exhaust as the Catback does.

Both Axle Back and Catback systems are great systems and make a huge improvement in sound, but if you can afford to spring for the extra cash, do it right and get the Catback.

From a sound perspective, you have the touring which sound not much different than stock. Then the Sport (my favorite) which bumps it up a notch from the sound perspective, but not too much. At the ATAK which is the most aggressive sounding of them all.

All of Borla's systems are awesome, but thought prospective shoppers would want to know the down and dirty on each one...

See ya,

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I already have the ARH headers and 3" catback that is designed to attach to the stock axleback. I love the Borla S sound and I really want a 3" axleback to connect to what I already have. Can ya hook me up or am I SOL?
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I already have the ARH headers and 3" catback that is designed to attach to the stock axleback. I love the Borla S sound and I really want a 3" axleback to connect to what I already have. Can ya hook me up or am I SOL?
ARH to a 3" catback to stock axle-back? Alright, I'll try and help you here.

Catback and Axleback are terms for two different types of exhaust systems. If you have a catback, that goes from the cats all the way back through the muffler and tailpipes. An axle-back is only the mufflers and tail pipes. Thus, the two systems have overlapping components, and you wouldn't connect an axle-back to a catback. What I'll assume you have, with this in mind, is an ARH longtube header set with a 3" mid-pipe (x-pipe, in the case of the ARH system). That X-Pipe, while 3", will bolt up to the stock axle-back system, however, which means that it has a stepped grade at the end up the pipe to make it 2.5", which is the stock axle-back size. In this case, any Borla axle-back exhaust system should bolt up directly to your ARH long-tune set, and any slight issues of variance in length can easily be handled by a muffler shop. That being said, there are a number of axle-back systems available that will work for you, however none of them are 3" systems. Borla only offer the 3" Sport system in a full cat-back exhaust, which would give you true 3" piping all the way back, but which also includes an X-Pipe that would have to replace your current X-Pipe. In doing this, you'd ultimately end up with an extra, unnecessary, mid-pipe component piece, thus you'd be paying more for something you don't ultimately need. I suggest you find an axle-back system, such as the S-Type or ATAK (my personal favorite), that works in sound and tone for you and install that.
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