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Old 07-27-2010, 08:31 PM   #51
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"this" means i agree with you lmao
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:37 PM   #52
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The car is ok but this movie is probably straight to Sci-fi or video.
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:03 PM   #53
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looks like they tried to copy my rear vents. didnt do a good job of it
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:34 PM   #54
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lol why are you guys getting so hurt. the camaro has it flaws, just like the mustang.
every reviewer has complain over the exact stuff matt complained since the camaro came out. besides i imagine the maro would feel worse because it is a incomplete prop car.

some how every one that complains about the maro, is paid by ford.
If you’re going to make up facts you might as well make up some statistics for us too!



And this is a CAMARO FORUM, so yes we are going to comment on bad reviews.

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Old 07-27-2010, 10:39 PM   #55
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Solid axle. No irs.
Can someone bookmark this topic? Every one of those dumb mustang vs. Camaro threads always ends up with the mustang guys claiming that IRS doesn't make any difference on rough roads when cornering. They act like it's a myth or something. I like this guy seems pretty objective and his criticisms of the live axle seem to ring true with everything I have experienced.
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Can someone bookmark this topic? Every one of those dumb mustang vs. Camaro threads always ends up with the mustang guys claiming that IRS doesn't make any difference on rough roads when cornering. They act like it's a myth or something. I like this guy seems pretty objective and his criticisms of the live axle seem to ring true with everything I have experienced.
No doubt the IRS is better on rough roads. It isn't nearly as bad as the camaro people on here would like you to believe though.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:58 PM   #57
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:46 PM   #58
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So a guy who can't adjust his seat, is using an unfinished movie car, has just done 500 miles in a car he loves no matter what the flaws, and will not list any times for the firebreather, nor show a straight up drag between the two is supposed to be taken seriously on a review?????

Ironically one of the reasons I didn't buy a mustang is because my 6' 3" ass fit better in the camaro and yes I do have a sun roof!!
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:48 PM   #59
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If you’re going to make up facts you might as well make up some statistics for us too!



And this is a CAMARO FORUM, so yes we are going to comment on bad reviews.

read every review on the camaro, the same exact complains on all of them.
don't worry the camaro can be flawless in your world.

i dont see what the problem is here, he's comparing a unfinished movie propcar
to a real car you can buy right now. of course the car isn't going to feel better.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:13 AM   #61
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"this" means i agree with you lmao
lol o yeah..lol i'm having a weird day.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:46 AM   #62
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the GT500s came with IRS suspension. So why does he say its carrying the live axle?
Watch the video again.....he never said that.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:49 AM   #63
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The reviewer said that the Shelby rev matches when you shift. Woot!

That Shelby sounded sooo sweet, but the Firebreather sounded amazing!!! What an awesome sound!!
Quick question.....how does a manual transmission rev match. Oh yeah it doesn't unless you give it some gas yourself so really he was doing his own rev matching.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:57 AM   #64
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read every review on the camaro, the same exact complains on all of them.
don't worry the camaro can be flawless in your world.

i dont see what the problem is here, he's comparing a unfinished movie propcar
to a real car you can buy right now. of course the car isn't going to feel better.

I just had to quote this because it is so true.

As far as I can tell all he complained about was his head touching the roof with his seat all the way down (a pretty common complaint even on this board) and the steering wheel. Is that reason enough to hate the guy and accuse him of being "paid off" by Ford. He even admitted that is was an Incomplete movie car and that he had to forgive some of the flaws because of it. I think he was pretty fair on all points even tho some of his info was wrong.


Seriously if a reviewer isn't absolutely worshipping and giving anything but total praise to the Camaro some of you just have a fit. This was not a bad review at all.
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I just wanted to clarify a couple things.

The car that was tested is an incomplete FireBreather, not an incomplete car. What that means is that we didn't wrap the center console (between armrest and gear shifter) in leather, it is simply the same plastic that came with the camaro. So his complaints are not because the car is incomplete, its because he doesn't like certain aspects of the camaro's interior.

Also 'Jinn' will be in theaters 1st quarter of 2011, we have not begun the marketing campaign for the movie yet, look to start seeing things around October

I can tell you the FireBreather was significantly faster than the mustang on the highway...

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Old 07-28-2010, 04:44 AM   #66
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I can tell you the FireBreather was significantly faster than the mustang on the highway...


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Old 07-28-2010, 08:23 AM   #67
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I can tell you the FireBreather was significantly faster than the mustang on the highway...
So . . . . . . I guess that settles it. Camaro-1 Mustang-0

Seriously though, and not trying to bash the Firebreather at all. I love the body work, the front end just looks plain dangerous. All of Matt's review was straight opinion and qualitative facts. I personally have this rule where I don't let other people's opinions affect the choices I make. It's a pretty solid rule actually. When push comes to shove each driver will either be a camaro driver or a mustang driver and I can predict it now that this thread is going to turn into another "my camaro's better than your mustang" thread. JMHO
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Actually, I do not care for the Firebreather look. If GM ever brings back the TA, I hope they use an earlier rendention found on this site back in 2009. Can't find it right now but that was bada$$ right there. The Firebreather in the video looks so cheezy. It looks like someone took a Camaro and ripped the front fascia off and slapped some aftermarket POS fascia on there. A real hack-job in my opinon. It looks hideous to the point where I think it will reflect on the Camaro/GM in a negative way. Too bad. Also, as much as I love my Camaro, I must admit that the GT500 in that video had the best sounding exhaust by a long shot. I mean it was no contest. Disappointed in the Firebreather. If I was a perspective buyer of the Camaro and saw this video, it would make me consider the Mustang without hesitation. That's how bad this was for me. Sorry. JMO.

EDIT: Think I found the earlier rendition or something close. They should have tried to stick closer to this in my opinion and put a much sicker exhaust on it with LTs or something to open it up so you can at least hear the thing. The exhaust was way too docile in the video. I would bet good money that the dubbing in the movie will be much, much more aggressive.

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that TA is pretty sexy too.

Also, I checked out the Firebreather website and the specifications page is pretty intense. I mean mostly the car just got a ton of body work done on her, but the interior is trimmed in, and I kid you not, "Piano Black" and with red ABL. The car's posessed I'm telling you.
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:29 AM   #71
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read every review on the camaro, the same exact complains on all of them.
don't worry the camaro can be flawless in your world.

i dont see what the problem is here, he's comparing a unfinished movie propcar
to a real car you can buy right now. of course the car isn't going to feel better.
I don't have to read every review, because I've read/watched enough to know that not every one of them complains about the same thing!

Yesterday was a long day and your post rubbed me the wrong way. Sorry, I had forum rage.

Also, I've never said or implied that the Camaro is flawless.

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I just had to quote this because it is so true.

As far as I can tell all he complained about was his head touching the roof with his seat all the way down (a pretty common complaint even on this board) and the steering wheel. Is that reason enough to hate the guy and accuse him of being "paid off" by Ford. He even admitted that is was an Incomplete movie car and that he had to forgive some of the flaws because of it. I think he was pretty fair on all points even tho some of his info was wrong.


Seriously if a reviewer isn't absolutely worshipping and giving anything but total praise to the Camaro some of you just have a fit. This was not a bad review at all.
It was a bad review because if he is going to make a statement that the steering wheel is the worst in the industry, he should at least tell us why. Did his steering wheel work opposite than mine or only worked occasionally?

At least that's my opinion on a good or bad review.
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I just had to quote this because it is so true.

As far as I can tell all he complained about was his head touching the roof with his seat all the way down (a pretty common complaint even on this board) and the steering wheel. Is that reason enough to hate the guy and accuse him of being "paid off" by Ford. He even admitted that is was an Incomplete movie car and that he had to forgive some of the flaws because of it. I think he was pretty fair on all points even tho some of his info was wrong.


Seriously if a reviewer isn't absolutely worshipping and giving anything but total praise to the Camaro some of you just have a fit. This was not a bad review at all.
Did you even read my post? He doesn't have to worship the car, just give credit where it is rightfully due, to give numbers alone on the mustang and not the firebreather is enough to make it a bad review, I get that some reviewers are fanboys ( motor trend) but at least they give you the whole picture with real world numbers, and an explanation of what is wrong!! This was all opinion, he purposefully included things to make the mustang sound great and excluded things to make the camaro sound bad!!
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Actually, I do not care for the Firebreather look. If GM ever brings back the TA, I hope they use an earlier rendention found on this site back in 2009. Can't find it right now but that was bada$$ right there. The Firebreather in the video looks so cheezy. It looks like someone took a Camaro and ripped the front fascia off and slapped some aftermarket POS fascia on there. A real hack-job in my opinon. It looks hideous to the point where I think it will reflect on the Camaro/GM in a negative way. Too bad. Also, as much as I love my Camaro, I must admit that the GT500 in that video had the best sounding exhaust by a long shot. I mean it was no contest. Disappointed in the Firebreather. If I was a perspective buyer of the Camaro and saw this video, it would make me consider the Mustang without hesitation. That's how bad this was for me. Sorry. JMO.

EDIT: Think I found the earlier rendition or something close. They should have tried to stick closer to this in my opinion and put a much sicker exhaust on it with LTs or something to open it up so you can at least hear the thing. The exhaust was way too docile in the video. I would bet good money that the dubbing in the movie will be much, much more aggressive.

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Did you even read my post? He doesn't have to worship the car, just give credit where it is rightfully due, to give numbers alone on the mustang and not the firebreather is enough to make it a bad review, I get that some reviewers are fanboys ( motor trend) but at least they give you the whole picture with real world numbers, and an explanation of what is wrong!! This was all opinion, he purposefully included things to make the mustang sound great and excluded things to make the camaro sound bad!!
How is he gonna give track numbers on a car that hasn't been taken to the track?

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