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Old 07-28-2010, 03:59 PM   #18
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Very entertaining read...thanks for posting
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:59 PM   #19
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I've accepted the fact that it's on its way. 2012? Maybe (if GM doesn't go bankrupt when the Volt doesn't sell). But there have been press releases for over a year now saying the Z/28 will use the same drivetrain as the CTS-V and it's only a matter of time until they start pumping them out of the assembly line.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:05 PM   #20
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WOW!! I don't think I need to go THAT FAST. Good read for sure! Thanks.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:11 PM   #21
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:19 PM   #22
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:39 PM   #23
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Happily, I can report that the Chevy Camaro SS will not let you shift into reverse at 140 mph.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:41 PM   #24
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I like this sentence:
That's what I like about my V6... never once dropped into reverse when I didn't want to.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:48 PM   #25
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Very good read and I don't think there was anything that was surprising written ... it will be interesting to see what happens when the Z/28 is out ... if they keep the same gearing, I dont' think they will hit the same wall, but you got to admit, we are in an overdrive gear by 5th gear ....

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Old 07-28-2010, 04:50 PM   #26
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How? To once again make the Mustang look better. There is no comparing these two models... but they do it to show how great the "Mustang" is... doesn't matter what trim/model. As I said I have yet to see a decent and fair review of both cars. This review/comparison/etc eve has a graph lining up their numbers. This was a botch of an article and should be put in the versus graveyard with all of those other useless posts. Maybe one day someone will do a REAL comparison.
Wow. It was an interesting read, that's all. I agree that a GT vs an SS would be interesting but I think the purpose of this was to simply see what the two to muscle cars from each manufacturer could do when unleashed. Lighten up a little. You'll have more fun.
Not everything has to become a Camaro/Mustang battle. Both cars are great.
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:54 PM   #27
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Are street-racing stories still disallowed if the racer is from Popular Mechanics?
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:00 PM   #28
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Man, I wish I knew they were doing this. I'd would have loved to drive out there and watch this. It's about 40mins away from me.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:15 PM   #29
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Sure it said "Vs." but other than where the author commented about the Camaro's suspension was more comfortable, there was no face to face comparison. It says in the article that the GT500 is faster as it should be for a car with 100 more HP and the same weight. No one who knows anything about cars or physics in general would have expected the Camaro to go faster. If the outcome is already known, how can you make these two cars compete?
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How? To once again make the Mustang look better. There is no comparing these two models... but they do it to show how great the "Mustang" is... doesn't matter what trim/model. As I said I have yet to see a decent and fair review of both cars. This review/comparison/etc eve has a graph lining up their numbers. This was a botch of an article and should be put in the versus graveyard with all of those other useless posts. Maybe one day someone will do a REAL comparison.
Jeez, a little sensitive today? The point of this article wasn't to compare the cars, or say that one was better than the other (it never actually made any conclusions like that). I'm thinking it was just an excuse to take two high power muscle cars on a long road trip to a place where both could be maxed out. Sure, even without doing it, it's obvious that a 550hp car will be faster than a 426hp car...but then where's the fun?
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:19 PM   #30
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Excellent read.

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Old 07-28-2010, 05:39 PM   #31
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Excellent read.

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Old 07-28-2010, 06:05 PM   #32
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why didnt they do just the new 5.0 gt vs the camaro ss. its fair that way
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:08 PM   #33
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This makes me wonder how a regular GT would perform compared to the shelby... although I think the Camaro would win. Theoretically, higher horsepower means higher top speed, am I right?
Not necessarily. To know for sure which vehicle will have a higher top speed, you have to know not only how much power is going to the wheels, but also what the differences in drag coefficient and reference area are.

Small differences in drag coefficient and reference area can mean big differences in top speed due to the fact that drag is a function drag coefficient, reference area and of velocity squared. That is, every time you double your velocity, your drag increases by a factor of 4.

Top speed falls out pretty easily from: Top speed = cube root ( 2 *RWHP / A * rho * Cd)

where

A = reference area
rho = air density
Cd = drag coefficient

If you can find A and Cd which auto manufacturers are not always forthcoming about.

Which is probably more than anybody wanted to know anyway...
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #34
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I really enjoyed this article

Main thing is that the writers were having fun and aknowledged the differences in the car - but as they said - to have a car in the $30K price bracket doing over 170 and doing it in an unfussed manner with stable handling and great brakes is pretty amazing

Lets just take the article in the spirit in which it was intended - 2 guys taking 2 hot muscle cars onto the salt flats for some fun and tell us some stories about the trip along the way .... made me want to go on a loooong drive
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