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Old 11-19-2008, 01:08 PM   #26
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JFTR I posted the cell phone stuff because I find it interesting that people have a fear of On-Star spying but are WAY MORE vunerable to being spied on via their cell phone (if they have one).

No one ever answers my questions!!!
How many of you that don't like and fear On-Star spying have cell phones???

Just like my question in the "who's ordered thread." I asked out of curiosity how many people that had complained about the new Camaro's weight had ordered a 2SS with all the luxury weight adding stuff that doesn't make it faster. No one answered that question either.
Guess I'm just a trouble maker.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:15 PM   #27
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If you read the original post I stated that I THINK ITS BS...I still do. I agree with you on the phone issue. I was just curious to others opinions
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:54 PM   #28
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I like onstar, its like the grey poupon of this generation. Making phone calls from your cell phone, potential brain cancer. Making phone calls via your car, Priceless.
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OnStar calls an ambulance for you and your family, dispatches them to your crash location, and possibly saves your lives, even if you're unconcious.

Priceless!
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No worries here. Even if this is some sort of grand conspiracy...OnStar is too valuable to me: I won't jeopardize mine + my families safety (or potential safety...) because I'm afraid the government's watching me....

*dons tin-foil hat*
thats how they want you to think

sure, conspiracies can sound ridiculous sometimes, but other times the majority just has to wake up to what goes on around them.
i feel our way of life demands the following thought process:
"take care of yourself and your family and dont bother with what goes on around you. live in your bubble, everything will be fine" <--- im ok with this

this country will eventually become a police state, it just sucks to see it unwind.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:56 PM   #31
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thats how they want you to think

sure, conspiracies can sound ridiculous sometimes, but other times the majority just has to wake up to what goes on around them.
i feel our way of life demands the following thought process:
"take care of yourself and your family and dont bother with what goes on around you. live in your bubble, everything will be fine" <--- im ok with this

this country will eventually become a police state, it just sucks to see it unwind.

we still have bacon wrapped hot-dogs
I can see why you feel this way, you live in California..... The most paranoid state in the country!
I have a suggestion for you, If you are so scared of being spied upon here, You can always try to find a better country and move there.....
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:07 PM   #32
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I can see why you feel this way, you live in California..... The most paranoid state in the country!
I have a suggestion for you, If you are so scared of being spied upon here, You can always try to find a better country and move there.....
no where in my post did i write i was scared of being spied on. and if i was being spied on so be it. im as open as the 'post whore' on 'Headpunters avatar' thread.
This is still the best country in the world, why would i want to move elsewhere? my issue comes with if the govt violates our rights as citizens, but until then, im fine and dandy.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:38 PM   #33
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I think I picked up on some of the issues:
  1. it might catch or prevent speeding
  2. it could stop terrorists
  3. it might catch people lying about running red lights
  4. it could confirm or deny alibis
I'm not too familiar with the US constitution, or bill of rights, but I don't think there is anything that says you are free to break the law.

Lastly, just put on a tinfoil hat and you'll be fine. It interferes with On* when they try to monitor your activities
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:41 PM   #34
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member 99b4c mentioned being able to order it on 09 models in this thread. i would imagine it will still work. rebate? no clue.
I hope the RPO delete code UE0 works, and wish someone from GM could confirm it. anyone?

I just dont want the service or equipment, I plan to keep this next Camaro for a very long time and dont want useless (to me) electronics in it. I am not buying a Camaro to save my life, I am buying it for fun.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:39 AM   #35
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Personally- as one who enjoys ventures well above proper speed levels...and a general outlaw way of thinking- I hate onstar. I hate to think that if I get a case of mistaken identity, and the lawdogs can call onstar and find me at any given time. That is just my southern rebelion I suppose. Plus- I MAY NOT want the authorities to know if I had a wreck! What if I am at the track and smack a wall- lord forbid- then the cops show up and right an accident report...there goes my insurance rates. I just don't want the government to have access to my vehicle....period. Kinda like them having a camera in my bedroom IMO.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:44 AM   #36
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Personally- as one who enjoys ventures well above proper speed levels...and a general outlaw way of thinking- I hate onstar. I hate to think that if I get a case of mistaken identity, and the lawdogs can call onstar and find me at any given time. That is just my southern rebelion I suppose. Plus- I MAY NOT want the authorities to know if I had a wreck! What if I am at the track and smack a wall- lord forbid- then the cops show up and right an accident report...there goes my insurance rates. I just don't want the government to have access to my vehicle....period. Kinda like them having a camera in my bedroom IMO.
On-Star will try to contact you first and ASK you if you need assistance, they don't automatically dispatch the authorities unless they cannot contact you through onstar. If you say you do not need assistance none will be sent.

So much misinformation and assumptions being made, mostly by people wanting to break the law... If you don't like On-Star then buy something else or just disconnect the On-Star antenna, problem solved.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:58 AM   #37
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no where in my post did i write i was scared of being spied on. and if i was being spied on so be it. im as open as the 'post whore' on 'Headpunters avatar' thread.
This is still the best country in the world, why would i want to move elsewhere? my issue comes with if the govt violates our rights as citizens, but until then, im fine and dandy.
your post is a FAIL

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maybe you were being sarcastic, with your post, but it did not come off that way, and if I missinterpreted it the I am sorry.


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Right there has to be reasonable suspicion for a judge to issue a subpoena and get the records after the fact. However note that since On-Star received a "collision notification" and called the vehicle to see if assistance was needed the recording of the kids voice, proof that he was there and in that vehicle at that time, is what sealed his fate.

BOYNTON BEACH, Fla. -- Investigators said a Manalapan teenager was caught causing $24,800 worth of damage to a soccer field after the On-Star system in his car tipped off police that he was the culprit.

Authorities said the 17-year-old spun a 2007 GMC Denali to make "donuts" all over the soccer field at Saint Joseph's School located at 3300 S. Seacrest Blvd. in Boynton Beach on Nov.21, according to a police report.

Police used On-Star GPS records to link the teen to the scene at the time of the vandalism, according to the report.

A police subpoenae of OnStar documents revealed that the company received a "collision notification" and that an OnStar employee contacted the teen, whose voice was then recorded.

The 17-year-old is facing charges of reckless driving and criminal mischief.

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Old 11-21-2008, 06:58 PM   #39
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See! I mean who hasn't done donuts somewhere??? Sure a schools soccer field ain't cool...but I've done more than my share in the schools parking lot back in the day. Reckless driving tickets and I don't like each other.LOL
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:03 PM   #40
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Other than that- like others have said- crap is just in the way...my Yukon has that crap- and it pisses my off everytime I accidentally hit the button and it talks to me. I don't subscribe to it- so it is just in the way.

Personally I'd like my SS minus the onstar AND minus the radio...I'd rather have my own sound system installed.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:19 PM   #41
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Other than that- like others have said- crap is just in the way...my Yukon has that crap- and it pisses my off everytime I accidentally hit the button and it talks to me. I don't subscribe to it- so it is just in the way.

Personally I'd like my SS minus the onstar AND minus the radio...I'd rather have my own sound system installed.
I dont plan on breaking any laws in my new Camaro and I dont think I'm being watched, last time I outran the law was back in 94 in my IROC L98 and that Caprice didnt have a chance.

Just in case I wanna try it again, it would be nice to have Onstar delete and less buttons inside.
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Old 11-23-2008, 02:59 PM   #42
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I dont plan on breaking any laws in my new Camaro and I dont think I'm being watched, last time I outran the law was back in 94 in my IROC L98 and that Caprice didnt have a chance.

Just in case I wanna try it again, it would be nice to have Onstar delete and less buttons inside.
We think very much alike. I am about to buy a 99 Z28 though...I won't buy a new Camaro till 11 or 12...by then the onstar will be manditory.
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We think very much alike. I am about to buy a 99 Z28 though...I won't buy a new Camaro till 11 or 12...by then the onstar will be manditory.
You cant beat the LS1 4th gen deal, especially a t56 car IMO and the 99 is my favorite year. I just sold my 99 on ebay and will be without a Camaro for a while , I hope to order a white 1SS in 15 -18 months, waiting on a 2011 and deleting the Onstar.
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:39 PM   #44
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OnStar calls an ambulance for you and your family, dispatches them to your crash location, and possibly saves your lives, even if you're unconcious.

Priceless!
I really do think that this part of OnStar should be something that is standard on all cars. Maybe even something like GPS that becomes a public service.

As far as all the other spying crap, we would all freak if we really knew how much we were listened to and watched.
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You cant beat the LS1 4th gen deal, especially a t56 car IMO and the 99 is my favorite year. I just sold my 99 on ebay and will be without a Camaro for a while , I hope to order a white 1SS in 15 -18 months, waiting on a 2011 and deleting the Onstar.
This is a T56 car with a fresh forged pistoned LS6 and a TR224 cam, 71K miles for less than 6500. Needs a little work-power windows are shot, and such...but can't beat the price. And no onstar. Gonna drive it back and forth to Louisianna from South Alabama every week for work. (I work offshore)

OK I will quit jacking the thread now.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:14 AM   #46
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See! I mean who hasn't done donuts somewhere??? Sure a schools soccer field ain't cool...but I've done more than my share in the schools parking lot back in the day. Reckless driving tickets and I don't like each other.LOL
The only reason that kid was contacted was because of the damage that was done. I guarantee you that if he did that in a parking lot when no one was around, the onstar person would not have known that the simple donuts were begin done... Had he stayed on asphalt, he would have been fine. I'd bet you anything. On top of that, if you have no witness for the reckless driving, you have no real case. However, tire marks all over a field are a bit different.
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Other than that- like others have said- crap is just in the way...my Yukon has that crap- and it pisses my off everytime I accidentally hit the button and it talks to me. I don't subscribe to it- so it is just in the way.

Personally I'd like my SS minus the onstar AND minus the radio...I'd rather have my own sound system installed.
I have never hit the onstar buttons accidently,
anyway If your buttons are on the rear view mirror you can reach around behind it and unplug the connector and disable the buttons....
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:33 PM   #48
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This is a T56 car with a fresh forged pistoned LS6 and a TR224 cam, 71K miles for less than 6500. Needs a little work-power windows are shot, and such...but can't beat the price. And no onstar. Gonna drive it back and forth to Louisianna from South Alabama every week for work. (I work offshore)

OK I will quit jacking the thread now.
Sounds like a good deal, they all need power window motors.

On topic, the Onstar is just alittle too much IMO, I'm just getting used to airbags, and multiple airbags in a car for safety. It is becoming a norm that we "need" all these things to live and drive safetly, if I was that paranoid about dying in a wreck, I would stay home on the couch because it wouldnt be any fun to drive.
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I have never hit the onstar buttons accidently,
anyway If your buttons are on the rear view mirror you can reach around behind it and unplug the connector and disable the buttons....

In my Yukon it has a button on the steering wheel...I hit it all the time. I think it is for the phone. Either way- it sucks. I read that the New Camaro's radio is gonna have bluetooth phone connectivity- That would be sweet- and do all that I would want onstar for...but I'd still rather put in my own sound system.
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The conspiracy theory group has arrived. On Star does not track your vehicle unless you give them permission. They require you to give them your Personal Identificaion Number to report the the location to the Police. Even the diagnotics emails you receive telling you about having low tire pressure or need an oil change are only sent once a month and can be opted out of by not giving them an email.

And I am sure plenty have commented on the offensive IMG referring to the great Jews takeover of the economy, but I wanted to add my 2 cents to it as well. Please do not post images that can be contrued as hateful to others, you may be doing so as a joke, but I can assure you many of my jewish friends would be greatly offended, just as other races and groups would be if something racist was posted in here. Lets talk about Camaros and leave the hate in the real world.
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