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Old 07-30-2010, 11:10 PM   #1
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:35 AM   #2
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Why does Pete get all the cool $hit?!?!

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Old 07-31-2010, 10:05 PM   #3
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Pedders has been working with Saleen for just over a year to build the best looking and best handling Mustang on the planet. Every S281 or S302 leaves the Saleen facility with coilovers and cambers plates. The collaboration between Pedders and Saleen created the possibility of a special model. The new Saleen SR would be road course ready from the Ford showroom. Pedders USA Camaro pulls 1.384 Gs on a road course on street tires. It is fast, very fast. The Saleen S281 SR is just as fast and maybe faster. We can't give you all the details at this time, but we can give you a look at the car.































Both cars look great. Only one will be the FASTEST. We'll put them on track for the press and find out which car has the best 0 to 60 and back to 0. Which car has the fastest 1/4 mile. Which car pulls the highest Gs. Which car is the fastest around the road course along with reams of data. What are the tire temps? How hot are the rotors? Were corner exit speeds increasing or dropping lap after lap. At the end of the day we will know which car is FASTEST, so will our friends from the press and so will you.
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Old 07-31-2010, 10:33 PM   #4
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Sounds like fun!

I usually like the look of the mustangs, but I gotta say, that Saleen is kinda ugly!
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:23 AM   #5
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Is that Mike's car? Looks good for what it is
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:55 AM   #6
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This shoot out is going to be good.Can't wait to see which Pedders car will come out on top.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:27 AM   #7
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That should be an awesome read. Consider me hooked!
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:43 AM   #8
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Pretty beast! I'm adding the FB.

On a side-note, how filthy-ugly is the Saleen rear-end?... Already not a big fan of the 2011 rear end anyway but DAMN. Saleen found a way to make it worse, IMHO
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:05 PM   #9
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When is the bake off between Pete's Camaro and Pete's Mustang?
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:11 PM   #10
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Deff. will be interesting.
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:48 PM   #11
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When is the bake off between Pete's Camaro and Pete's Mustang?
In the next two weeks depending on weather. It is a private event at the request of the press.
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:56 PM   #12
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Just saw the plate, duh!

Very cool, Pete
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:03 PM   #13
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Just saw the plate, duh!

Very cool, Pete
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:07 PM   #14
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LMAO! Don't be telling my secrets... just yet

saving them for when I can do the most damage... "Like a tornado in a trailer park!"
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:09 PM   #15
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Sounds like fun!

I usually like the look of the mustangs, but I gotta say, that Saleen is kinda ugly!

I/m with ya on that - just not feeling the Saleen at all.
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:36 PM   #16
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I have to agree with the others on the butt ugly rear end, but I like the rest of it. I am sure it is a hell of a ride.
Will be interesting to see if Pete can get our IRS to out perform their solid rear end. Come on Pete all we have been hearing is how much of an improvement the IRS is......Make it shine!!
And you could always PM a good customer with the details like when and where in case I, I mean he was in the area.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:38 PM   #17
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We have some media people coming out to the event. I also invited Camaro5 to come out as media. With media come some restrictions. We will probably not be able to publish the final results until they appear in print. We'll tell you as much as we can. when we run it will be at Gingerman in South haven Michigan. We build cars to push our suspensions to the limit. They run as fast as race cars. Pedders does NOT make race car parts. We make parts for the enthusiast to drive every day that just happen to do well on track. If we added full cages for safety, we change the structure of the car. When the structure is changed what we are developing is no longer optimal for a street car. Without the cage and triangulation running at race car speeds is dangerous -- very dangerous. One of the hings I like about Gingerman is there is only one really dangerous spot on the track. That turn aside, there is a lot of runoff room on the track. It is a tough technical track, but a relatively safe track.

What I can tell you is the IRS in the Camaro makes for a car that communicates well and is very civil to drive in full track setup. The Mustang i just as fast as the Camaro. They are dead heat even as of the last test. The Mustang three link does not give you the great feedback you get in the Camaro. You hear people talk about solid rear axle snap oversteer. I don't see it that way. It is a lack of feedback. Since the feedback is limited when it breaks it breaks hard. That is not snap oversteer. It is limited feedback. The Mustang is a bit rough in normal driving setup fully for optimum track performance.

I have to say that off the showroom floor I would take the Camaro over the Mustang hands down. Fully built as they sit right now it is a really tough call. We have TWO iconic American Muscle Cars that turn, stop and go like hell. We are living in the Golden Age of American Muscle.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:03 PM   #18
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:38 PM   #19
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:32 PM   #20
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Thats a lot of red right there! lol I was blinded by the picture. Those cars look angry. lol
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:58 PM   #21
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Styling wise I like the Pedders Camaro, the Saleen looks bloated (except I like the front end from the windshield/fenders forward), but the read is nasty, bloated and looks generally misplaced on a muscle car of this caliber. The Camaro however looks just plain mean. Fit and trim from almost every angle. Now lets wait and see which one outperforms the other.

Good thing here is that no matter which takes the checkered flag in the most events, an true American muscle car wins.

Nice work guys, can't wait to see the competition and results!
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:47 PM   #22
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:26 AM   #23
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NICE!

But damn that Mustang is ugly, how could you put it next to the SS when its supposed to be the queen of the thread??

Thats like trying to showcase Rosie Odonnel next to Eva Mendez
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:48 AM   #24
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Those cars look angry. lol
The Pedders camaro sounds angry too!! ..but in an awesome way.
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NICE!

But damn that Mustang is ugly, how could you put it next to the SS when its supposed to be the queen of the thread??

Thats like trying to showcase Rosie Odonnel next to Eva Mendez
It was easy. I depressed the clutch, slid the gear selecting lever into 1st, synchronised the clutch and gas pedals, steered the Mustang, released the brake pedal and gently applied the brakes and parked for the photo.

I can't belive I forgot to ask Eva for an autograph and phone number :(
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