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Old 12-17-2008, 03:14 PM   #76
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No. This will NOT turn into a stripe thread!

I will not cancel my order if ABL is not included. I will, however, put it off until it is (as long as they say it's coming). If they scrap it all together, I will not cancel my order. I will still get it, but the price had BETTER reflect the change of no ABL. ABL makes the interior of this car simply kick @ss.

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Old 12-17-2008, 03:15 PM   #77
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If it's not available can we add it later?

I love the ABL but it won't stop me from getting the Camaro...but I would like the option to add it in there, along with HUD, when they do become available!
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:56 PM   #78
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Are we possible trading HUD for the ABL? Could be if you look at the Camaro specs in the GMPPG.
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:59 PM   #79
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No. This will NOT turn into a stripe thread!

I will not cancel my order if ABL is not included. I will, however, put it off until it is (as long as they say it's coming). If they scrap it all together, I will not cancel my order. I will still get it, but the price had BETTER reflect the change of no ABL. ABL makes the interior of this car simply kick @ss.
The ABL is one of the reasons why I ordered the 2SS. If it is not there at launch, then my order will be put off until it is available. What a dissappointment.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:45 PM   #80
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No. This will NOT turn into a stripe thread!

I will not cancel my order if ABL is not included. I will, however, put it off until it is (as long as they say it's coming). If they scrap it all together, I will not cancel my order. I will still get it, but the price had BETTER reflect the change of no ABL. ABL makes the interior of this car simply kick @ss.
Hmmm. I may do the same, the HUD I got over but the ABL is the reason I got the 2LT. Hope we hear something soon about the ABL being available, I want that feature and if I'm going to wait for that, I could wait for the HUD.

Some higher ups got any status on the ABL please?

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Old 12-17-2008, 04:50 PM   #81
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Yeah, I too will postpone my order if Ambient Light is not available at launch.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:57 PM   #82
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I will also cancel without ABL. Sorry...but for this kind of money I can wait until the next model comes out and probably get supplier pricing by then anyway.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:00 PM   #83
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Are we possible trading HUD for the ABL? Could be if you look at the Camaro specs in the GMPPG.
If they trade HUD for ABL as you suggest then that's cool with me. If I had to choose HUD or ABL I would pick HUD anyday...of course having both would be best.

If my 2SS suddenly does not ABL nor does it have HUD then I am also postponing my order until that is resolved.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:58 AM   #84
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No. This will NOT turn into a stripe thread!
Sorry, man, I couldn't resist. Seriously though, you guys are even farther over the edge about this!
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:14 PM   #85
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Sorry, man, I couldn't resist. Seriously though, you guys are even farther over the edge about this!
I disagree.......nothing is as over the edge as the stripe thread. I will seriously consider delaying my order as well without the ambient lighting. This is an actual functional component of the vehicle, not a piece of vinyl that you may or may not have anyway.

Also agree that the price should definitely be adjusted if the AL is deleted. If we get HUD in its place I could live with the swap.
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Is ABL "canned"? or is it just delayed, like the HUD?
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:43 PM   #87
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Is ABL "canned"? or is it just delayed, like the HUD?
We don't know for sure...there are some rumors that there is problems and may not be ready to go at launch...though there are rumors saying it's fine!

We just don't know...but how many other things do we just not know about? A lot...so only time will tell and when we actually see a production Camaro!
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:43 PM   #88
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Is ABL "canned"? or is it just delayed, like the HUD?
They are supposedly working out the problems with it. I can't see why they couldn't get it working for launch time...I don't know if I can get the car knowing both ambient lighting and HUD won't be there.

GM could work a lot harder posting information, mainly on their Camaro site that they love to ignore.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:51 PM   #89
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I hope ABL is not canned

I hope ABL is not canned, that was a factor for the 2ss choice for me,

Well And the leather

and the everything else. LOL

But man I really want that Ambient Lighting, Its gonna be awesome with the IMO interior.
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:03 PM   #90
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They are supposedly working out the problems with it. I can't see why they couldn't get it working for launch time...I don't know if I can get the car knowing both ambient lighting and HUD won't be there.

GM could work a lot harder posting information, mainly on their Camaro site that they love to ignore.
Agreed on their Camaro site, they should be updating often. Rumors can be bad for business.
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:41 PM   #91
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I want the ABL as much as everyone here. I believe the car will have it by launch time. It's 2 months away before our orders really get put in.

It's safe to say that GM wants our business. Especially since GM, Chrysler, and FORD aren't doing very well at the moment.

The worse case scenario to me is that they will delay the Camaro until they are fully finished with everything for the car. This is the car they have been waiting to unleash for how long now? It's safe to say that they won't release the Camaro until it's perfect, and the way that everyone has been expecting it to look from the outside in.

But, I will be waiting to find out about the Lighting here with all of you because I find this to be one amazing selling point for the Interior of the car.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:24 PM   #92
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The worse case scenario to me is that they will delay the Camaro until they are fully finished with everything for the car.
I would prefer they do that then launch the car without features they promised.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:17 PM   #93
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you know how rumors fly. They're like pigs with wings...

IF...anything bad were to happen; they're not going to delay the entire car. Remember, the people who make up the majority of the sales don't know ambient lighting even exists...it would be much better for them if they launched the car, and delayed the lighting till they got it perfect or whatever is holding them up. Again, IF.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:30 PM   #94
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So this did turn into another thread.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:45 PM   #95
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it would be much better for them if they launched the car, and delayed the lighting till they got it perfect or whatever is holding them up. Again, IF.
If GM wants to lose credibility they will launch the car without the feature people paid for.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:49 PM   #96
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If GM wants to lose credibility they will launch the car without the feature people paid for.
It will be clear that the lighting is not there if that is what ends up happening. So no, people will not be paying for something that they're not getting.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:19 PM   #97
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It will be clear that the lighting is not there if that is what ends up happening. So no, people will not be paying for something that they're not getting.
Are you saying the MSRP will definitely drop for the 2LT and 2SS if it isn't included? And if so, how much do they consider ABL worth?
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Are you saying the MSRP will definitely drop for the 2LT and 2SS if it isn't included? And if so, how much do they consider ABL worth?
No. They might but I don't know anything more than you do. My point is that pricing isn't final yet. And noone has bought a car yet. So therefore, you haven't paid for something you're not getting. If GM were to go through production and tell everyone that it was a feature and it was on the final materials but not actually in the cars, then they'd be selling you something you're not getting. But, that's not gonna happen so....
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:07 AM   #99
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i'm not worried about this. GM will get it right for everyone with the 2LT and 2SS. i do hope they can make it a part we can order through GMPP so i can get it in my 1SS
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I just looked back at the March 2006 issue of Motor Trend and the concept Camaro featured had the radio station channel and volume level lit up inside the ABL above the radio. Damn cool and I wish it was gonna be this way, but I've not seen it mentioned ever again.
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