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Old 08-08-2010, 02:46 PM   #15
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Let me ask this for those that are saying add a sway bar. If you add a sway bar to correct the factory understeer wont that increase the oversteer and make the car more squirrly?
No. A quality set of well engineer sway bars will correct the issue without over correcting, or better yet give you the ability to adjust it to your particular preference.
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:01 PM   #16
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So with this being just a 100% daily driver that I would like to be a little more agressive with would I need to upgrade both back and front sway bars or could I get away with just the front.

Also, with the adjustments on the sway bars is that something that I could adjust or does it need to be taken in to be adjusted?

This is good stuff thanks for all the info...
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:04 PM   #17
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you can try hotchkis stage 1 tvs or the hotchkis track pack or what i'm going with hotchkis race pack, the race pack has every thing you need and if you get it thru jegs it will be a little bit cheaper
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:21 PM   #18
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you can try hotchkis stage 1 tvs or the hotchkis track pack or what i'm going with hotchkis race pack, the race pack has every thing you need and if you get it thru jegs it will be a little bit cheaper
Yours a daily driver or do you plan on racing it?
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:34 PM   #19
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So with this being just a 100% daily driver that I would like to be a little more agressive with would I need to upgrade both back and front sway bars or could I get away with just the front.

Also, with the adjustments on the sway bars is that something that I could adjust or does it need to be taken in to be adjusted?

This is good stuff thanks for all the info...
You could go with just a rear sway bar and realize a significant improvement over stock but of course not as significant as if you went with front and rear. Its just a question of what degree of improvement you are looking for.

The adjustments on the sway bars are very easy to make. No need to take it to a mechanic.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:24 AM   #20
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Yours a daily driver or do you plan on racing it?
my camaro is not my daily driver, my truck is my daily, i drive my car when i'm off of work. no plans for racing other than going to test and tune nights at the track.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:16 AM   #21
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There is alot of good advice on here depending on your budget and what you do with the car.Lowering springs and a good set of sway bars will make the handling much better.But one of the best places to start is with the rear sub frame bushings they have large voids in them for ride comfort from GM ,the replacement bushings make a huge improvement over the stock ones.The front radius arm bushings are oil filled from gm and while they are great for comfort and noise reduction they do lack in road feel.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:24 AM   #22
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I think the general consensus here is pretty accurate: swaybars and springs or coilovers if the budget allows. I agree, these are the most noticeable improvements that you will "feel" and if improved handling is your main goal you can't go wrong making them your first suspension mods.

Since you mentioned taking it to the track periodically I would also suggest rear subframe bushing inserts and a set of trailing arms. These will not only firm up your launches and give you more consistent track times but they also eliminate the wheel-hop that you will experience at the track. These cars are wheel-hop prone and there are plenty of broken CV shafts to prove it.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:15 AM   #23
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As another daily driver my recommendation is, in order:

1) Sway bars front & rear + upgrade the endlinks at the same time (the OE endlinks holding the sway bars are weak) - this will reduce the understeer and make the Camaro feel like its on rails in clover-leafs / curved.

2) Coilovers if you can afford them in your budget - these provide more ride height flexibility and damper adjustment for ride quality, especially if you have track aspirations downstream. IMHO Springs lower the car but you're stuck good/bad/indifferent with the ride height and feel - so coilovers are superior but cost 2x-4x more.

For me - it was Pfadt all the way...
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:35 AM   #24
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Your best choice is to get springs and sway bars. Make sure that the sway bars are adjustable front and rear. Some are more adjustable than others so research that. This way if you do wan to go more spirited it will be easy for you to amp up to something more aggressive.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:45 PM   #25
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Let me start this off by saying I'm basically illiterate when it comes to suspensions.

I want to upgrade my suspension but I'm not sure what I need and what I don't need. The car is 100% daily driver and thats all I plan on using it for. Most of the roads that I drive on are old country winding roads. My goal is to upgrade the suspension to make it a more enjoyable ride. I've already increased the hp and tq a bit and might add a SC in the future(still on the fence about that), so whatever I do, I want to make sure that it will accommadate any future power upgrades I make.

I would appreciate any info you guys have and thanks in advance for any help...
You do have many choices for upgrades and as you can see from the responses, there are many different ways to approach suspension improvements.

At Hotchkis we like to keep things simple and bolt-on. We do months of R&D to make sure that our parts not only improve performance, but that they are long lasting, and don't cause damage to stock components.

We know that many of you drive on real roads, with friends, spouses, children and pets along for the ride, so we know how important it is to design parts that offer a firm yet comfortable ride. We check ground clearance, additional weight, spring fitment over bumps, everything that can effect the daily driver.



Having said that, we like to encourage you to have a look at our various kits for the 5th gen Camaro. We even offer billet spring spacers for proper ride height should you decide to install that super charger.

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Old 08-09-2010, 03:22 PM   #26
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I would suggest starting with a good set of sways and endlinks. This will make your car much more responsive and "balance" the chassis. Everyone always talk's about understeer and oversteer. With the Camaro in factory trim you get a lot of understeer, the reason is because the front bar is to stiff or the rear bar is to soft, it depends on the approach to correct the issue. Every company takes a different approach with their solutions. What you're going for is a balanced chassis, balance is the key word. The factory endlinks are dinky, aftermarket endlinks also give you the ability to "unload" the sways at static ride height. We have a few great options here.

The next mod I'd suggest would be a good set of lowering springs or coil overs if your budget permits. The only thing you'll want to look out for in terms of lowering springs is you don't want to go much below a 1.25" drop or you could wear your factory struts quicker. Coil overs are really the way to go IMHO but they aren't necessary. The nice thing about coilovers is you can set it up to ride nice on the street, turn it up for the canyons as well as for the strip. I've had a lot of experience setting up some of the fastest IRS Vette's in the country and I know what works.

I would mix in a few other components through this process including a good set of trailing arms/toe links and urethane bushings to complete your set up. We have all of these components as well.

We offer products from Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis and Spohn at great prices. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Have a good one and good luck! It really isn't rocket science and I'd be more than happy to help you find the right set up for you.

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Old 08-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #27
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Awesome info and I really appreciate everyones input. I've learned a lot about the Camaro's suspension these last couple days. This site rulz.....
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I would suggest starting with a good set of sways and endlinks. This will make your car much more responsive and "balance" the chassis. Everyone always talk's about understeer and oversteer. With the Camaro in factory trim you get a lot of understeer, the reason is because the front bar is to stiff or the rear bar is to soft, it depends on the approach to correct the issue. Every company takes a different approach with their solutions. What you're going for is a balanced chassis, balance is the key word. The factory endlinks are dinky, aftermarket endlinks also give you the ability to "unload" the sways at static ride height. We have a few great options here.

The next mod I'd suggest would be a good set of lowering springs or coil overs if your budget permits. The only thing you'll want to look out for in terms of lowering springs is you don't want to go much below a 1.25" drop or you could wear your factory struts quicker. Coil overs are really the way to go IMHO but they aren't necessary. The nice thing about coilovers is you can set it up to ride nice on the street, turn it up for the canyons as well as for the strip. I've had a lot of experience setting up some of the fastest IRS Vette's in the country and I know what works.

I would mix in a few other components through this process including a good set of trailing arms/toe links and urethane bushings to complete your set up. We have all of these components as well.

We offer products from Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis and Spohn at great prices. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Have a good one and good luck! It really isn't rocket science and I'd be more than happy to help you find the right set up for you.

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do you carry the hotchkis race pack? if so what is the price on it.
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