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Old 07-02-2012, 03:08 PM   #651
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Have had no issues with the MAF, and the IAT's are read post intercooler so that is accurate for the ECU. Good question though.

With the front mounts the MAF is chilled also, but not the top mounts due to the location of the IC.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:37 PM   #652
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Question....what about the MAF? If it is still reading 100 degree air temp (low density air) what over rides the MAF reading to pull timing when you are cooling after the MAF? Would it be benficial to cool the air before the MAFalso?
On the ZL1 IAT2 determines timing. IAT1 assists with the air mass calculation so it doesn't play much of a part in the ECM determining the timing selection.
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How, if done, was the install on a camaro with a e-force, considering the coolant placement parts for the SC's system?
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Have had no issues with the MAF, and the IAT's are read post intercooler so that is accurate for the ECU. Good question though.

With the front mounts the MAF is chilled also, but not the top mounts due to the location of the IC.
If IAT sensor is installed after the IC on the Maggies, the 2 wires that origionally read the IAT off the MAF have been relocated - so no longer seen by the MAF sensor. (part of the TVS2300 install instructions..... and probably Whipple & Eforce)

If still reading off the MAF, the real IATs inside the supercharger after the IC are predicted #s from what I've checked. I can't understand how they can be predicted accurately without accounting for possible high and low conditions, and then tuning based on worst senario - pulling timing when AITs aren't bad too.

On the other hand, it seems if the sensor relocate is done and AIT #s are instantly higher due to real #s, timing would be possibly pulled prematurely if tables aren't adjusted.... effectively not making the best use of the accurate #s off the relocated AIT sensor.
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How, if done, was the install on a camaro with a e-force, considering the coolant placement parts for the SC's system?
Our camaro systems are flexable to allow for all the top mounts, ZL1, Maggie, Whipple, Lysholm, and KB instead of a specific system for each application. It comes with pre-formed hoses and enough lines and fittings. It also has no interference from the fog/driving lights.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:35 PM   #657
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The chiller sounds really I'm curious about road race setup. I don't really race but take it to the track for a few 20 minute hard driving sessions.

I've read in this thread that a separate 12v compressor would be the way to go. But I'm not exactly sure I understand what that means. Does it run directly off the battery? If so, would it eventually drain the battery? Or is the alternator able to keep it charged while in use?
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The 12v unit is a heavy draw and adds a bit of weight. We would only reccomned it for a track only application due to the cost, etc.

We need to put one on your car for you to give feedback. The system as is works well as your not dependant on ambient air temps to cool, and even though the compressor disengages at WOT it will re-engage when you lift for corners etc, and with a 1/2 gal or so coolant resivoir there is enough reserve chilled coolant to still be effective whe in competition mode as the cabin AC is truned off and you also dont have the water dripping from the humidity removed when running the cabin AC.

Lets talk.....need to have one on a road track car car for demonstration anyway.
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Here is a 18# boost all forged stroker Caddy Escalade:

He left running IAT's app 30* cooler than when he arrived.



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Nice.How much bottom end(C.I.) you have on that Caddy running 18#. A little bit of a sleeper huh?
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Its over 400 ci. Thing is a heavy beast but sure moves out!

Anyone wanting to see step by step camaro install pick up the March issue of GM High Tech Performance mag, page 76.

Howard at Redline did an awesome story for the mag.

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Bumping this up for those wanting to get ready for the summer heat!
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Bumping this up for those wanting to get ready for the summer heat!
So says the guy in florida! :(
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So says the guy in florida! :(
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Turbo application yet?
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