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Old 11-30-2008, 10:04 AM   #76
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Thanks, Nostradamus. That may very well be the case and, if so, that's no skin off my nose but I'd prefer to have an actual comparison and some data to support the results versus the pure speculation/supposition you've put forth.
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very cool. but im not really diggin the wheels. i think the stage 1 is kinda pointless too. basically badging wheels and a hood? not worth it.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:49 PM   #78
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very cool. but im not really diggin the wheels. i think the stage 1 is kinda pointless too. basically badging wheels and a hood? not worth it.
We don't know what these stages will cost yet so how can you say if it's worth it or not? Stage one does not get the hood but it does get a cam. We know the GM hot cam is good for 50HP so I would not be surprised if the Stage I deal gets you 500HP!
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:02 PM   #79
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I'd love to get 500hp from my Camaro...
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:54 PM   #80
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im interested in the 700hp N/A stage III


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Old 12-06-2008, 04:13 PM   #81
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:12 AM   #82
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anyone remeber this pick from the same artist?

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That's straight money, right there! I love the hood on both the red and yellow concept drawing, but the wheels on the red one fit more...

Modern muscle wheels for a modern muscle car.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #83
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That is one of the Great things about building Custom and Personalized Camaros, you get to build what you and/or your Customers like.

I asked John to incorporate those wheels, because I Like them and want them on my 2010 Nickey Camaro. I had a vintage set on my very first Camaro.

While most of our current orders do have the Vintage Style Retro 5 spoke Wheels, other options will be available, including the offerings direct from GM.

Nickey was the only Super Car converter from the 1960s to have their very own proprietary Nickey Wheels. They did however use other types on their Conversion Cars. Some Nickey Camaros even left the dealership on Stock Wheels.

We very much would like to keep that same motif used to build the original Nickey Cars.

While Billet Hub/Center Caps will be standard on all 3 Stages, the wheels will be an option.


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Old 12-07-2008, 04:35 PM   #84
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hood

that hood is only meant for 1 car... a 67 BB vette...in my opinion. The cowl hood is awesome and looks the best on the camaro and chevelle


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Old 12-07-2008, 08:17 PM   #85
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The Stinger and L88 Corvette hoods look awesome on other Chevys, Camaros, Chevelles and Novas IMO.

Its great to know that it will be possible to buy a new Nickey Camaro.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:53 PM   #86
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I happen to think that it looks right at home on the 2010 Camaro and I can tell you that mine is going to have one!

The hood may have been meant for the Corvette, but so was the L72 427, the C5R 427, and the ZO6 LS7. I'm sure glad that we got to borrow those parts from the Corvette too
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the TR-6060 transmission's used on cars like the Corvette ZR1 and SRT-10 Viper. does that mean GM shouldn't've used it for the Camaro? i'd love to have a hood like that!
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:47 PM   #88
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yea i want that hood on my 2LTRS.. any guesses on how much an aftermarket hood like that would cost?
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Yes, I do.

I am very much a Camaro Enthusiast, just like the Membership here. I saw John McBride's rendering in a Magazine and thought that he was very close to what we had envisioned, for the New Nickey Camaro.

When He and I first spoke, he knew exactly what we were looking for.

A version of the Corvette Stinger hood was used on some of the very first 1967 Nickey Camaros, which were completed in 1966.

We are very excited to have him as part of our Team. Stay tuned for more cool Artwork from John!

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Welcome aboard to Camaro5, Sir. We very much look forward to hearing about all the goodies you can offer us!

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Old 12-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #91
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Thanks for the warm welcome!

I have been reading posts here on this site and have also had emails and conversations regarding our project, with members.

Thanks very much for your interest. However; I believe some clarification is needed.

First and foremost; The 2010 Nickey Camaro Stage I, II or III, project is a work in progress. Very little is set in stone at this point.

The Vintage Style advertisement posted on this site was finalized many months ago. It was designed to layout some "broad stokes" regarding the Stage Options. It was in no way meant to be the final and ultimate representation, of what we hope to accomplish with the project.

We have chosen Wegner Motor Sports to be our Engine Builders, for the project. If you came to the Nickey Chevy Vette Fest Nationals, you could have seen some of the actual engines and components, which we plan to include with our project.

Wegner has tested both Supercharged as well as Naturally Aspirated engines which can meet or exceed the advertised HP ratings (at the flywheel).

In fact, we will be offering some of these special Nickey Serialized engines (for off road use only) as complete ready to install long block assemblies!

An integral key component for the project is still missing. This is an actual car, for us to work with. The sooner we have that available the sooner we can answer some of the questions, which have been presented.

There are some things we can discuss and some which we can not.

However; I will do my best to answer your questions, regarding this project.

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Old 12-08-2008, 05:00 PM   #92
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The stage 2 Nickey package should be compared to the street legal 605hp Shelby Supersnake. You must first buy and supply your own GT500 and then pay Shelby Automobiles another $30K for modifications similar to those on the Nickey stage 2 Camaro. There is also a 725hp version of the Shelby Supersnake available, which would certainly seem to be equivalent to the Nickey stage 3 package. Count on the Nickey stage 2 package also costing around $30K.
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I believe some clarification is needed. Wegner has tested both Supercharged as well as Naturally Aspirated engines which can meet or exceed the advertised HP ratings (at the flywheel). We will be offering some of these special Nickey Serialized engines (for off road use only) as complete ready to install long block assemblies.
These Nickey stage 2 and stage 3 Camaros will be extremely expensive, just like the Shelby Supersnakes (which are their direct counterparts) that cost $30K over and above the cost of a base GT500. Who among you will buy one if you can get a brand new 'vette Z06 discounted to about the same price? Heck, how many of you are filthy rich enough to pay over $60K for a Camaro? And keep in mind that the 700hp version will carry no warranty and may not even be street legal (if it includes any of the engines referred to as "for off road use only" by Stefano Bimbi of Nickey).
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These Nickey stage 2 and stage 3 Camaros will be extremely expensive, just like the Shelby Supersnakes (which are their direct counterparts) that cost $30K over and above the cost of a base GT500. Who among you will buy one if you can get a brand new 'vette Z06 discounted to about the same price? Heck, how many of you are filthy rich enough to pay over $60K for a Camaro? And keep in mind that the 700hp version will carry no warranty and may not even be street legal (if it includes any of the engines referred to as "for off road use only" by Stefano Bimbi of Nickey).
the Nickey probably ain't gonna be any more expensive than a Callaway or Lingenfelter (should they choose to do something). the desire for the Camaro over a similarly-powered Z06 w/warranty is most likely just a pure aesthetic want for a hopped-up Camaro. if you're fortunate enough to be able to spend the cash for one, i don't see why you shouldn't have what you want.
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These Nickey stage 2 and stage 3 Camaros will be extremely expensive, just like the Shelby Supersnakes (which are their direct counterparts) that cost $30K over and above the cost of a base GT500. Who among you will buy one if you can get a brand new 'vette Z06 discounted to about the same price? Heck, how many of you are filthy rich enough to pay over $60K for a Camaro? And keep in mind that the 700hp version will carry no warranty and may not even be street legal (if it includes any of the engines referred to as "for off road use only" by Stefano Bimbi of Nickey).
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I happen to think that it looks right at home on the 2010 Camaro and I can tell you that mine is going to have one!

The hood may have been meant for the Corvette, but so was the L72 427, the C5R 427, and the ZO6 LS7. I'm sure glad that we got to borrow those parts from the Corvette too
I hear ya. Because I do own the 67 BB in the pictures it kind of gets under my skin a little when i see the non-67 corvettes sporting the stinger hood. i personally like the bulge hood on the 65 and 66 just as much. I also love the look of the large cowl hood on the 69 camaro and chevelles...it just looks perfect. I always think the mismatched parts takes away from the original intent of being original to that year.

quick questions--if someone wanted to have you work some magic on their new camaro--do you advise they get a more affordable base model and spend their money on your upgrades? Can you ball park what someone could expect from a 15-30K investment to nickey? and do you have any recommendations on the minimum model of camaro someone should purchase before modifying?

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There are a couple of options, depending on the intended/ultimate use.

GM has just introduced their Camaro "Body" program for Racers. The MSRP we have been quoted is $7,000.00, for just a body.

We have professional "Racing" Teams/Customers who will want to build from that basic platform. These are non VIN'd bodies and are for off road/competition use only.

The platform we will use to build our Standard Nickey Conversion cars from will be the Manual Transmission SS model. This will be the most efficient and cost effective approach.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:23 AM   #97
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welcome to the forum Nickey Chicago. I cant wait to see what products that you make available. I hope there will be individual parts as well as the large conversion stage kits. As well, even though I know you will specialize on the SS models, I hope you dont leave the 6's in the cold. Starting with 304 hp isnt peanuts.

p.s. On a personal note, I love having a page that gives access to communicate with GM and parts specialists. It makes you feel like your voice is really being heard and that you not only have an opinion on what is available for the camaro from GM, but what will be available for the camaro once we receive it.
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60k for stage 3? No way they will just be adding 20k for 300 more hp. For prices I see it more closer to stage 1 around 45-50k, stage 2 around 70k and stage 3 at least 100k.
100k for the stage III. I don't think they will go that high for this car. That is a new ZR1 and the stage 3 kit on this car won't even come close to the ZR1 in performance. Maybe close to the GT500 special editions prices, but minus the 20,000 dollars less the Camaro costs than the GT500.

You can do all of this stuff to your own car with more power for less money, especially if you are willing to get your hands dirty. The only way I could even see this car being worth it is if it had a bumper to bumper warranty.
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I agree completely but, for the record, the KR features the same pulley as the regular GT500. It would be no contest. However, why are you even comparing a KR to the Nickey Camaro? Apples to apples, you would need to compare the 725hp Shelby SuperSnake to the 700hp Nickey Stage III.
we were talking about a specific price point.....but at $72k the supersnake fits into the arguement well...i just thought the $80k gt500kr was worth mentioning.
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Thanks, Nostradamus. That may very well be the case and, if so, that's no skin off my nose but I'd prefer to have an actual comparison and some data to support the results versus the pure speculation/supposition you've put forth.
Here's a hint..."The Camaro suspension is the most sophisticated design in a production car offered by GM. Our initial evaluation is that this is the best suspension system we have seen from GM and will be a game changing event in the automotive world. "

There's also the story of how they were comparing the Mustang to the 5th gen...It was so far behind in every test, eventually no one wanted to drive the Mustang. Add as much HP as you want, if you can't use it, well...you know.


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