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Old 11-24-2008, 10:35 PM   #1
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does anybody know, if the 20" tires that you get with the RS package, are all season tires. I would like the order the RS package, but not if the tires are not all season. I am ordering a 1LT, with sunroof, cyber gray, with black interior.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:08 AM   #2
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Somebody pleae correct me if I am worng, but it's my understanding that they will be summer tires.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:10 AM   #3
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^You are right. all summer tires.

at least...last I heard.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:44 AM   #4
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I don't believe I've ever had a car with Summer tires. Just how badly will they be for winter driving?

We don't get too much snow each season. Only maybe 1 or 2 snowstorms that aren't usually over 6" to a foot at the absolute most. That, and I live right off a main road that is kept salted/plowed. So I'm assuming I should be ok with the summer tires... right?

I doubt the cost of another set of tires (not to mention storing them) will be in the budget.
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Depends on how you drive. I do just fine with them but then again I only get 1-2 snows a year and they hardly ever go over 2-3 inches.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:18 AM   #6
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I don't believe I've ever had a car with Summer tires. Just how badly will they be for winter driving?

We don't get too much snow each season. Only maybe 1 or 2 snowstorms that aren't usually over 6" to a foot at the absolute most. That, and I live right off a main road that is kept salted/plowed. So I'm assuming I should be ok with the summer tires... right?

I doubt the cost of another set of tires (not to mention storing them) will be in the budget.
The only real problem with summer tires comes when the temperature drops to freezing levels. The rubber compound is designed for warm weather so it becomes harder and less grippy when cold. I suppose you could do a burn out before leaving the house each day but that would only warm up the rear tires.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:11 PM   #7
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The only real problem with summer tires comes when the temperature drops to freezing levels. The rubber compound is designed for warm weather so it becomes harder and less grippy when cold. I suppose you could do a burn out before leaving the house each day but that would only warm up the rear tires.
I don't know why but this made me laugh. I can just picture the neighbors with very confused looks on their faces.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:13 PM   #8
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I don't know why but this made me laugh. I can just picture the neighbors with very confused looks on their faces.
i'd do it

i've never had summer tires either... but then again, i've never needed them. the 'snow' here is laughable and i i usually have A/T. what would a 4x4 truck do with summer tires?
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The only real problem with summer tires comes when the temperature drops to freezing levels. The rubber compound is designed for warm weather so it becomes harder and less grippy when cold. I suppose you could do a burn out before leaving the house each day but that would only warm up the rear tires.
its not just the temperature, its the air and the moisture as well that adds to it.


if you are going to store them, get some jumbo vacuum pack bags and suck all the air out of them.
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The only real problem with summer tires comes when the temperature drops to freezing levels. The rubber compound is designed for warm weather so it becomes harder and less grippy when cold. I suppose you could do a burn out before leaving the house each day but that would only warm up the rear tires.
Heh I recall the Kumho Ecsta MXs on my vette... if the temp was in the mid 30s it was like driving on 4 marbles....
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Just be careful. Same as any car. The driver makes a bigger difference than tires, added weight, and chains combined.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #12
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Here's a warning posted by TireRack on the Pirelli PZero Nero:
"Like all summer tires, PZero Nero tires are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."

I have the GY SuperCar F1's on my Corvette (Z51 ultra high performance summer tire). All I can say is thank god for TC and AH. I turned off the TC/AH one morning and it was real easy to get the car into a 180 spin with little effort or warning.

If you drive this car in the cold with ANY precipitation my advice is to drive like you have egg between your foot and gas pedal. Oh and Good Luck.
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:47 PM   #13
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What about rain? I live in "The Thunderstorm State" (the whole "Sunshine State" thing is a lie) and I'd rather not have the rear end step out on me every time I giver her a lil gas.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:32 PM   #14
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Does anyone know the exact tire? The Pontiac G8's come with Bridgestone RE's summer street performance tires.... (Awesome tires...)
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What about rain? I live in "The Thunderstorm State" (the whole "Sunshine State" thing is a lie) and I'd rather not have the rear end step out on me every time I giver her a lil gas.
Well, this is what TireRack had to say about the PZero:

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Then again, I'd rather hear first hand on these tires as well from someone that has put some miles on them, especially in the rain.
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Does anyone know the exact tire? The Pontiac G8's come with Bridgestone RE's summer street performance tires.... (Awesome tires...)
All of the Camaros running the 20" wheels have had Pirelli PZero tires (Not Nero, Rosso, or any other variation).

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Good tires!

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Old 12-04-2008, 05:56 PM   #18
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Well, this is what TireRack had to say about the PZero:

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Then again, I'd rather hear first hand on these tires as well from someone that has put some miles on them, especially in the rain.
with APPROPRIATE ROAD MANNERS.....

that means paying attention to how hard you are driving....
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:23 AM   #19
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If you can afford a new Camaro get the summer tires, they will make it handle great and will be a blast to drive. Then get a set of very good all-season tires for bad months. If you get alot of snow get dedicated winter tires, like Blizzak LM-25.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:34 AM   #20
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can someone answer what rim that is.............I know it is a 20 but which one????
Nice close up. and that looks like IOM paint
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can someone answer what rim that is.............I know it is a 20 but which one????
Nice close up. and that looks like IOM paint
The one on the Victory Red car above? That's the LS7 Camaro that was at SEMA 2008. You can't order that wheel on your Camaro but I'd assume that GM Accessories will have it available at some point in the future.
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The one on the Victory Red car above? That's the LS7 Camaro that was at SEMA 2008. You can't order that wheel on your Camaro but I'd assume that GM Accessories will have it available at some point in the future.
thanks - I know it didn't look like any wheel I have seen yet on any production car.

Love how the colors change with different cameras/lighting/and flashes - i can see it is red now - opps - LOL
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Summer tires are great like many had said - make sure they are warm and sticky...
Even fresh out of the garage your tire temp can be low and "cold" for tire performancy Take a lesson form the pros and there swerving on the tracks - not that this is easy on the street. But make a few turns before you know you are going to get on her in your favorite turns....make sure the tires are good and warm and she will handle like she is on rails -


Little story - I took my SSR out one early morning in June after a cold night in MI....
got to the end of the driveway and gunned it and shot the ass end right around were I was heading - I was so embarrassed and thank god nobody saw me...who turned that traction control off?????? ..I am sure my wife would have heard it had our driveway not been 300' long. We live in a small subdivision with only 5 homes in it and everyone I think was still sleeping......

But I am older and wiser now by 4 years and have learned a lot.....funny I never had my 4thG Z28 do that - I should have kept that car. :(

But anyway summer tires are good - my car will be stored winters (Novemberish-Aprilish) Storage for those of you that don't know is just as important - make sure they are good and clean and radial tires will develope a flat spot that will come out - atleast they have for me - but I hear taking your tires off is also a good Idea - Anyone else agree???? I have not done that yet actually take them off every year - I just take it real easy the first few miles out after storage and the vibriation goes away after about 2-3 miles.

I am definetely going to look into proper cold weather storage techniques for this car as I want my kids taking it to there proms in 12 years. (With me driving) sorry kids dads rules

I might have to start that thread (Advice on cold weather storage) Don't think I am the only one in that boat. But I am not an expert by any means.
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does anybody know, if the 20" tires that you get with the RS package, are all season tires. I would like the order the RS package, but not if the tires are not all season. I am ordering a 1LT, with sunroof, cyber gray, with black interior.
Only summer tires with the RS package. I ordered it and then canceled it on my 2LT. Not sure who or why the stupid decision was made by that even if you lived in Alaska, you really need summer tires. I for one am not about to buy a car that I have to buy other tires for right away.
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I'd just run some slicks...

Were they testing those same tires in those shots of the IVERs in the snow? Maybe as long as you keep all the electronic nannies on, and drive very carefully, you'll be okay.
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