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joelster 09-08-2020 01:40 PM

Just for a quick update I went and got a Deka battery and made a custom bracket for the install. It saved roughly 23-25lbs total. But this battery absolutely does NOT like to crank the car over when it’s hot. After the car has sat for a bit it’s fine. But doing 3 runs in autocross and shutting the car off each time it gets harder and harder to start. I usually leave it running now just to avoid having to bring my jump box up to the grid. Has anyone else had any issues?

ronchev 09-09-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by joelster (Post 10864350)
Just for a quick update I went and got a Deka battery and made a custom bracket for the install. It saved roughly 23-25lbs total. But this battery absolutely does NOT like to crank the car over when it’s hot. After the car has sat for a bit it’s fine. But doing 3 runs in autocross and shutting the car off each time it gets harder and harder to start. I usually leave it running now just to avoid having to bring my jump box up to the grid. Has anyone else had any issues?

Mine always had slow crank when worm like others have reported over the years with these but last year I added the ground cable from the starter to the frame up front and seems to have really helped. Still on stock size battery tho but do a voltage drop and see how much your loosing at the starter....if not sure how plenty info out there on google. Good Luck

HoodCheck 09-09-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joelster (Post 10864350)
Just for a quick update I went and got a Deka battery and made a custom bracket for the install. It saved roughly 23-25lbs total. But this battery absolutely does NOT like to crank the car over when it’s hot. After the car has sat for a bit it’s fine. But doing 3 runs in autocross and shutting the car off each time it gets harder and harder to start. I usually leave it running now just to avoid having to bring my jump box up to the grid. Has anyone else had any issues?

The slow crank issue isnt a battery problem. Its a ground (as already mentioned) and/or heat problem. There are also aftermarket starters that supposedly don't have the issue (torquemaster XS and tilton heavy duty iirc).
This is a common issue on all 5th and 6th gen camaros.

olblue75 09-09-2020 08:02 AM

Class action law suit on the starters as well.

ariZona28 09-09-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HoodCheck (Post 10864802)
The slow crank issue isnt a battery problem. Its a ground (as already mentioned) and/or heat problem. There are also aftermarket starters that supposedly don't have the issue (torquemaster XS and tilton heavy duty iirc).
This is a common issue on all 5th and 6th gen camaros.

But if it starts OK with the original battery the starter (and related) system is not the culprit. Put the original battery back in and eliminate grid area jump start annoyance.

joelster 09-09-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ariZona28 (Post 10864935)
But if it starts OK with the original battery the starter (and related) system is not the culprit. Put the original battery back in and eliminate grid area jump start annoyance.

I put the stock battery back in and zero issues so it's definitely the battery. I just think it loses too much juice going down that 15' cable to the starter.

It's the Deka ETX30L

400CCA

pat_t 09-11-2020 09:59 AM

400CCA is low for our cars. I'm looking at Lithium Ion options but aiming to be at least 600CCA if I can

AustexaSS 09-11-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pat_t (Post 10866113)
400CCA is low for our cars. I'm looking at Lithium Ion options but aiming to be at least 600CCA if I can



https://braillebattery.com/

47Ronin 11-28-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by joelster (Post 10840066)
Has anyone got any significant weight out? I did long tube headers and saved 18lbs total.


Which headers did you take that are 18 lbs lighter?

joelster 12-12-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 47Ronin (Post 10910100)
Which headers did you take that are 18 lbs lighter?

Kooks 2" long tubes without cats.

Z28pex 12-13-2020 08:38 AM

2 Attachment(s)
I am headed in this direction first.
Moreno Brothers Group Buy crash bars.
Braille ML30c.
This is the battery used by Corvette Racing.
This is my 3rd Braille battery, the other 2 were ML20c used in a 914 and s2000.
The charger pictured is about 8-10 years old, its from Braille.

olblue75 12-13-2020 11:53 AM

I can’t find the thread about the added starter to frame grounding cable. Need to get an supplies together to make mine.

Goebel734 12-17-2020 04:59 PM

Braille Battery
 
$2100 for a battery? Nope. Nada. Negative. I'll just practice driving better! haha

joelster 05-13-2021 07:11 AM

Small update. I ordered a "planted technology" seat bracket and a kirkey race seat. Now I need a small piece of steel to fab up to mount the 2 pieces together. This combo sits significantly lower than the stock seat. I mocked it up, put my helmet on, and there's plenty of room between the helmet and the headliner. Probably saves 35lbs alone just on the drivers side.


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