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Dropspeed 08-29-2013 01:01 PM

Stock 1LE with me = 12.991 best
Stock 2013 GT500, barely faster with new driver....

First run he blew the tires off, stayed in it, fishtailed and almost hit the wall.
2nd run my nose was at his front fender and third run I was at his door.....

Said he owned a ZL1 too at it was much easier to drive....(no kidding)

My best race to date in my 1LE was a new 5.0GT.......it was mirror to mirror from launch to finish.

-Matt

Zxmustang 08-29-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6959402)
Stock 1LE with me = 12.991 best
Stock 2013 GT500, barely faster with new driver....

First run he blew the tires off, stayed in it, fishtailed and almost hit the wall.
2nd run my nose was at his front fender and third run I was at his door.....

Said he owned a ZL1 too at it was much easier to drive....(no kidding)

My best race to date in my 1LE was a new 5.0GT.......it was mirror to mirror from launch to finish.

-Matt

1LE 3.90 gears helps alot. Plus if the numbers in your sig are truly from a mustang dyno, then your LS3 is making way more power than everyone else's. Those numbers are dynojet numbers normally. Mustang dynos read way less because of load correction. But congrats to you. Your 1LE is fast, and I would gladly line up with you to show you what my new 14GT's LED tail lights look like. LOL

:first:

WHAMMO 08-29-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suzook (Post 6943538)
Ouch...stock 5.0's should run mid to upper 12's

Mid 12s is a big stretch. With a tire it can happen for sure, but stock its far from the norm. Upper 12s to low 13s yes.

WHAMMO 08-29-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kgarner1624 (Post 6959128)
I have a 2010 ss and my friend just got a 2014 GTCS, we've raced and he put me down by more than i'd like to say.. lol but i just installed LT headers a full 3'' exhaust and got it tuned so im anxious to see how that will do against it. both cars are auto

2010 auto Camaro were turd, plain and simple. The tune was horrible stock. A tune and headers will do wonders now!!

Bad70supreme 08-29-2013 01:20 PM

I ran that exact same time in my 10ss with no mods expect headers. No tune, no cold air.. nothing more. I pulled a few 12.60s @112 with a few 113 traps, I cant drive stick all that great either! So just because you never met one, dont mean sh$t! Good pass BTY, we would have been neck and neck.


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Originally Posted by Zxmustang (Post 6958476)
Allow me to throw some facts into this thread. I have owned a 2011 GTCS manual 3.55 5.0 and now a 2014 GT 5.0 brembo pack. The 5.0 is a mid 12 second car STOCK. I have yet to meet a stock or lightly modded 5th gen that could keep up with me. Oh and the only mods my car had on the run Im about to show you was the DRIVER MOD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVUG26s-cvc

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...IMG_0166-1.jpg

And with a tune, the slip below is what I ran. Left lane ofcourse.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...a/IMG_0095.jpg

Now Im not hating or bashing 5th gens, but lets be real. The 5.0 is a couple hundred pounds lighter, and dynos about the same. And with the 3.55 or 3.73 gears, there is no catching one on the street or strip in a stock 5th gen.


Zxmustang 08-29-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme (Post 6959477)
I ran that exact same time in my 10ss with no mods expect headers. No tune, no cold air.. nothing more. I pulled a few 12.60s @112 with a few 113 traps, I cant drive stick all that great either! So just because you never met one, dont mean sh$t! Good pass BTY, we would have been neck and neck.

Well lets head to GLD. You are in IL. Me and a couple friends are planning to head up there next thursday(week from today). I have to baseline my new 5.0 before I get the tire on and some mods. Should be in the 12's atleast. The car feels fast and can chirp 4th. I got a base 2014 with brembo package and 3.55.

87GNX 08-29-2013 01:33 PM

Aed or BBR tuned (93 octane) 5.0's auto lets use that tranny for example, will run 12.1.-12.3 in good weather. Seen it 100+ times at the track where I run my GNX. The 5.0 guys that I know only run a tune not cai or exhaust as the cai from the factory is good till 550+ hp they say. IF you remove the cats and get a big h or x pipe in their place (big restriction), high 11's is possible in fall weather.

87GNX 08-29-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme (Post 6959477)
I ran that exact same time in my 10ss with no mods expect headers. No tune, no cold air.. nothing more. I pulled a few 12.60s @112 with a few 113 traps, I cant drive stick all that great either! So just because you never met one, dont mean sh$t! Good pass BTY, we would have been neck and neck.

FWIW, aftermarket cold air on these coyote mustangs adds nothing at the track except noise.

WHAMMO 08-29-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zxmustang (Post 6958476)
Allow me to throw some facts into this thread. I have owned a 2011 GTCS manual 3.55 5.0 and now a 2014 GT 5.0 brembo pack. The 5.0 is a mid 12 second car STOCK. I have yet to meet a stock or lightly modded 5th gen that could keep up with me. Oh and the only mods my car had on the run Im about to show you was the DRIVER MOD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVUG26s-cvc

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...IMG_0166-1.jpg

And with a tune, the slip below is what I ran. Left lane ofcourse.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...a/IMG_0095.jpg

Now Im not hating or bashing 5th gens, but lets be real. The 5.0 is a couple hundred pounds lighter, and dynos about the same. And with the 3.55 or 3.73 gears, there is no catching one on the street or strip in a stock 5th gen.

You have a freak car maybe(congrast, impressive time! I suspect some good ole 1/4 trick; powershifts&some weight reduction), but my friends 13' GT isnt and 99% others are not. There was a stock 98 Z28 running 12.89@108, it wasnt the case of all fbodys at the time..

Lets get real, I ran 13.22@110.7 in my 1LE with a 2.4 0-60ft(laughable), which is on par with most GT 5.0 outhere. The LS3 have a shitload torq the 5.0 doesnt have so it can moves the heavy 5th gen.

I'm gonna line up with my friends GT, and if hes running up to the hype, he should beat me by 2-3 cars. I dont think so.

HeavyIOM 08-29-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO (Post 6959585)
You have a freak car maybe(congrast, impressive time! I suspect some good ole 1/4 trick; powershifts&some weight reduction), but my friends 13' GT isnt and 99% others are not. There was a stock 98 Z28 running 12.89@108, it wasnt the case of all fbodys at the time..

Lets get real, I ran 13.22@110.7 in my 1LE with a 2.4 0-60ft(laughable), which is on par with most GT 5.0 outhere. The LS3 have a shitload torq the 5.0 doesnt have so it can moves the heavy 5th gen.

I'm gonna line up with my friends GT, and if hes running up to the hype, he should beat me by 2-3 cars. I dont think so.


Mid 12's is actually is actually pretty common for a stock 5.0 with a decent driver. Upper 12's to low 13's is more common for poor drivers.

Your 1LE should be mid to upper 12's pretty easily, at least the ones ive ran have been in that time frame. That 60 is killing you

Bad70supreme 08-29-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zxmustang (Post 6959507)
Well lets head to GLD. You are in IL. Me and a couple friends are planning to head up there next thursday(week from today). I have to baseline my new 5.0 before I get the tire on and some mods. Should be in the 12's atleast. The car feels fast and can chirp 4th. I got a base 2014 with brembo package and 3.55.

What do you mean well lets head to gld... pretty sure if your a good driver you can hit 12s. My car wont see the track untill end of September at the soonest. I made some changes and I cant get back on the dyno till the 19th. Not running my car untill I know its working right. Anyway my point is my car was running 12.6s and you claimed you never seen even a lightly modded 5th gen that could keep up, seems that I could have done just fine.

Trust me know what those cars can do, they are more strip friendly then a 5th gen. Thats why I am going stalled th400 in my car with some boost ;) This 6 speed and 3.42 is weak junk on the track!

Zxmustang 08-29-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme (Post 6959657)
What do you mean well lets head to gld... pretty sure if your a good driver you can hit 12s. My car wont see the track untill end of September at the soonest. I made some changes and I cant get back on the dyno till the 19th. Not running my car untill I know its working right. Anyway my point is my car was running 12.6s and you claimed you never seen even a lightly modded 5th gen that could keep up, seems that I could have done just fine.

Trust me know what those cars can do, they are more strip friendly then a 5th gen. Thats why I am going stalled th400 in my car with some boost ;) This 6 speed and 3.42 is weak junk on the track!

Sorry GLD is short for great lakes dragway. Up in union Grove WI. Probably too far north for you. Byron might be better. But Yeah I dont claim to be the best driver, but this is my 6th manual mustang and I have had two manual C6 corvettes. All drag raced. I went up to GLD a few years ago in the 11 with C5G(chicago 5th gen) and nobody could touch me accept the guy with the vert that has the KB blower. And that car bearly ran mid 11's. So let me know if you want to go. I go with all kinds of people with all kinds of cars. Actually more camaros and corvettes than mustangs. And we trash talk over cheese burgers and have a blast. I love the camaros too. Almost bought a 1LE two months ago. Opted for the 5.0 because I love the new styling, but didnt care for the `14 SS/1LE styling.

87GNX 08-29-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO (Post 6959585)
You have a freak car maybe(congrast, impressive time! I suspect some good ole 1/4 trick; powershifts&some weight reduction), but my friends 13' GT isnt and 99% others are not. There was a stock 98 Z28 running 12.89@108, it wasnt the case of all fbodys at the time..

Lets get real, I ran 13.22@110.7 in my 1LE with a 2.4 0-60ft(laughable), which is on par with most GT 5.0 outhere. The LS3 have a shitload torq the 5.0 doesnt have so it can moves the heavy 5th gen.

I'm gonna line up with my friends GT, and if hes running up to the hype, he should beat me by 2-3 cars. I dont think so.

What the coyote lacks in torque, it makes up for it at 7000 rpm and short gearing.


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