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Oxtar41 03-29-2011 07:43 PM

Expected 1/4 mile times?
 
I have a 2010 camaro ss with a E-force supercharger. On the dyno it laid down 528.93 hp and 501 ft/lbs at the wheels. Just curious what expected times would be im guessing maybe 11.5's? If it hooks up, its a LS3/M6. Also any ideas on a 0-60 time again if it hooks up. Just seeing what peoples opinions are, I have yet to be at the track in it since we have 400 feet of snow still in wisconsin.

BigMatt 03-29-2011 07:49 PM

depends on how good of a driver you are and your suspension/tire setup. Stock suspension i'd say about 11.8 with a bad 2.3 60ft

Oxtar41 03-29-2011 07:53 PM

Im a pretty confident driver and have no problems launching a car. The suspension is stock though

jrpxxii 03-29-2011 08:10 PM

Good luck with stock suspension. At your power level you will definitely need to do some upgrades in the rearend to get it to hook up. Bet you cant wait for the sunshine to arrive.

Oxtar41 03-29-2011 08:41 PM

yeah i need to save a bit more cash before i start the suspension stuff. I cant wait for summer this has been the longest winter of my life. there has been snow on the ground since thanksgiving...

mlee 03-29-2011 08:56 PM

Without tires and a M6 tranny you will b e lucky to get into the 11's... you'll need to be below a 1.90 60ft which is doable w/ a little practice. Your trap speed should be good...116 or so

mikepage0007 03-29-2011 10:20 PM

yeah, i agree with most posts, you will not hook and if you do...stock suspension will most likely wheelhop, that will break things at that hp..i had to run with traction control on with 22,s and best time was 12.1..i ran pretty hard but not full out, short shifted to keep wheelspin down and soft launch about 2800 rpm..full pedders track suspension..

Blkcamaro757 03-30-2011 06:28 AM

I saw a L99 with 550rwhp run 10'9 at the track. And I have a litttle more hp then what he did and I ran 12.9 with my ls3 m6. He had nittos and I had stock tires and it was cold out.

SilverIceman 03-30-2011 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxtar41 (Post 3027032)
I have a 2010 camaro ss with a E-force supercharger. On the dyno it laid down 528.93 hp and 501 ft/lbs at the wheels. Just curious what expected times would be im guessing maybe 11.5's? If it hooks up, its a LS3/M6. Also any ideas on a 0-60 time again if it hooks up. Just seeing what peoples opinions are, I have yet to be at the track in it since we have 400 feet of snow still in wisconsin.

Good Luck. Better launch that carefully with all that Hp. I've done all the suspension mods and it does help. Next up is a clutch that doesn't slip. First time I nailed the launch it (clutch) just let go. Car was too hot. My best time was 13.0, 2.1s 60', 110mph with stock tires. You're running about 60 hp more than me so you should be able to get down in the 12's, especially if you have any experience (which I didn't).

Hopefully I'll get some lessons this year, some DR's and lose a whole second. My goal is 11.9.

tony1 04-03-2011 11:37 AM

Should'a got the L99

CC Performance 04-03-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blkcamaro757 (Post 3028681)
I saw a L99 with 550rwhp run 10'9 at the track. And I have a litttle more hp then what he did and I ran 12.9 with my ls3 m6. He had nittos and I had stock tires and it was cold out.

launching an auto is a lot different than launching a stick car..I refuse to slip my clutch and cut 2.3-2.6 60 fts regularly...hahahahaha I catch people at the other end

Oxtar41 04-03-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tony1 (Post 3048349)
Should'a got the L99

Thanks for the bright input.

CC Performance 04-03-2011 02:34 PM

you need to slip the clutch and take off at hi rpms..

2010 SS RS 04-03-2011 02:37 PM

screw all these pesimists. That edelbrock torque curve is nice. Get some Drag Radials and go have some fun. Stock PZeros are giong to be slick and dangerous at the track and will end up detonating an axel from wheel hop. Bottom line they suck. Suspension mods are nice but until you get the Drag radials and get to where you will benefit from them its almost a waste.

Go team edelbrock!

mws444 04-03-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tony1 (Post 3048349)
Should'a got the L99

I think the OP is a Man, autos are for the girls!

It takes skill and and a good touch to put down great times banging gears.

Not to mention all of us who grew up with a fourspeed roasting tires.:D

Notice the team LS3 in my sig.......it will be settled at the strip!:headbang:

SSE 4 2SS 04-03-2011 04:20 PM

In the stock configuration, I ran a best 12.7 at 113 miles an hour, and lost to an L-99 that ran a 12.6 at 108... She had a tranny tune, and thats it... We both blazed the tires for a burnout, staged and launched door handle to door handle... she shifted 2nd, pulled half a car, I hit 2nd, rolled up on her, same thing with third... and she hit 4th 100-150' or so before the finish line, and I rolled the traps in third, grabbing 4th right at the line, pedaling her down but but couldn't quite get there... I had a 2.1 60 foot, on P-Zeros, and hers was the same...

hell of a race... With 500 plus you should easily trap in the low 12's...or better... just get the hell off the throttle in a hurry if it does wheel hop... you can do a really good burnout and then leave fairly easy and then hammer it as you roll on... smooth is fast... clutch dumps and bang shifting is cool to talk about, but smooth is the fastest... I was leaving the line at around 2500 rpm with a hint of clutch slipping and as soon as I felt them bite, then I was on it hard... Now I have to learn to drive again... :facepalm:

Oxtar41 04-03-2011 06:32 PM

I have gown up around the strip and know all about clutch control. I used to race motorcycles down the 1/4 and although a car is different its still the same concept with a clutch. Im not worried about launching the car I was just curious to peoples opinions as to what I would should expect for times. The stock p-zeros do suck so I have been looking for some new tires also. After a few passes I should be able to get some pretty good launches down if I can hook up.

I have the barton short throw as well I love that thing!

mws444 04-03-2011 07:50 PM

Funny thing about wheel hop, not every Camaro has it. Mine never did. A big thing like was said above is to be smooth, hammering hard all the time will only result in broken parts. If my new Weld Wheels get in in time I will have a set of Mickey Thompson DR's on CCW's for sale at the Fest if you are looking for some.

SSE 4 2SS 04-03-2011 08:34 PM

Ox, I wasn't in any fashion dfissing your driving skills, and if sounded like I was, i apologize...

I was just trying to justify that yes you can expect low 12's if not high 11's... especially if you hook...

About the P-Zero's... The first time I took my car to the track, I was told and had read on here to just spin them enough to clean the dust off and stage... This is what I had tried to date...

When I went to the Texas Camaro Nats in Houston, I decided I was going to find out if it was possible to make them stick, and I did... They will stick quite well... but they have to be boiling hot...

I pulled around the water, and dumped the clutch and stood on the brakes... kept her just off the rev limiter until I started pushing the locked front tires... (I have some video of it at home from a different time) and then got off the brakes and let her roll out,,, huge loud chirp and the front end came up and she lunged for the staging area... The starter held the race up for a few seconds as we had both done this burnout and I couldn't see the other car at all... neither could the starter... hmm....

I went to 2500- 3000 and almost completely dumped the clutch and went like a rocket... fastest 60 foot to date I had in this car...

mws444 04-03-2011 09:00 PM

True of all tires, if you want them to really hook you have to get them hot! Dr's are better than street tires and slicks are better than Dr's. As your power comes up your tires need to get better to match it. Unless you are running full bias slicks I would stay out of the water as well. It will get thrown up on the fenders and then drip down on the tires when you stage costing you traction.
I know it gets expensive, but like they say "If you want to play....."

GSUNCSU 04-03-2011 09:32 PM

Very consistent this weekend at 12.6 @ 115-116, 2.1 to 2.3 at 60'. No wheel hop. I think low 12s is a possibility on the P-Zeros and high 11s with some sticky tires and some suspension work. (and just a quarter tank of gas and taking the 200 lbs of stuff out of the trunk, and about 40 lbs off the driver):sm0:

Huck1974 04-03-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GSUNCSU (Post 3050143)
Very consistent this weekend at 12.6 @ 115-116, 2.1 to 2.3 at 60'. No wheel hop. I think low 12s is a possibility on the P-Zeros and high 11s with some sticky tires and some suspension work. (and just a quarter tank of gas and taking the 200 lbs of stuff out of the trunk, and about 40 lbs off the driver):sm0:

What weighs 200 lbs in the trunk? You keep a body in there?

I get zero wheel hop on stock suspension with drag radials.

boostedyards86 04-03-2011 09:41 PM

honestly tires make all the difference. trust me on that. going from drag radials to hoosiers dropped me on average a half second at the track.

GSUNCSU 04-03-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck1974 (Post 3050163)
What weighs 200 lbs in the trunk? You keep a body in there?

I get zero wheel hop on stock suspension with drag radials.

Fire extinguisher, Tool Kit, First Aid Kit, folding chairs, change of clothes, picnic basket, Mountain Dews and Coke Zeros, Helmet, spare parts and other misc. stuff required when WifeSS travels with me...:thumbsup:Ok maybe not 200 but pushing 100.:D

paul2010 04-03-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mws444 (Post 3048921)
I think the OP is a Man, autos are for the girls!

It takes skill and and a good touch to put down great times banging gears.

Not to mention all of us who grew up with a fourspeed roasting tires.:D

Notice the team LS3 in my sig.......it will be settled at the strip!:headbang:



Yeah I say we settle it at the strip!

Oxtar41 04-03-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 3049922)
Ox, I wasn't in any fashion dfissing your driving skills, and if sounded like I was, i apologize...

I was just trying to justify that yes you can expect low 12's if not high 11's... especially if you hook...

About the P-Zero's... The first time I took my car to the track, I was told and had read on here to just spin them enough to clean the dust off and stage... This is what I had tried to date...

When I went to the Texas Camaro Nats in Houston, I decided I was going to find out if it was possible to make them stick, and I did... They will stick quite well... but they have to be boiling hot...

I pulled around the water, and dumped the clutch and stood on the brakes... kept her just off the rev limiter until I started pushing the locked front tires... (I have some video of it at home from a different time) and then got off the brakes and let her roll out,,, huge loud chirp and the front end came up and she lunged for the staging area... The starter held the race up for a few seconds as we had both done this burnout and I couldn't see the other car at all... neither could the starter... hmm....

I went to 2500- 3000 and almost completely dumped the clutch and went like a rocket... fastest 60 foot to date I had in this car...


I meant it like I have been to the track a bunch and am very confident in the ability to launch the car is all i was sayin lol. Sorry if i sounded like I was directing it at you :w00t:

mws444 04-04-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul2010 (Post 3050255)
Yeah I say we settle it at the strip!

:laughabove: The man with the 900 RWHP beast says! LOL I think you have me by default. I am saying apples to apples here! Maybe if you are on street tires.:sm0:

Smart Line 04-04-2011 06:03 AM

my stock car ran 13.002 at 110. best
13.2 at 115 most runs.
I had to learn to leave at 1200 rpm and shift at 5500 to get the 13.0
does not make sense BUT traction when leaving at 1200 is best for my car and very time i went over 55oo to shift it would blow the tires again.

probably going to do a run or 2 with the S/C here soon just not sure what to expect either?


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