The more street friendly Z/28 exists
 

It's called the 1LE. It's got A/C, a stereo, power seats, and the other goodies that people want.


I drive a 98 Z28. It's definitely more street focused than the 2014 Z/28 but it also isn't a Z/28.

Just drop an LS7 in it, done...

No, the LS3 is enough in the 1LE.

It's not enough imo....ls7 ftw.

There is no such thing.

Then why the rejection of the Z/28?

People are upset that its going to cost ~70K

I think very very few are rejecting it. And those that are either can't afford it or they are ZL1 owners concerned the Z/28 will outshine their Camaro.

I don't know if it would cost $70k but that kind of performance costs money.

I'm thinking under $60K

People are just pissed because they can't have the fully loaded 427 Camaro they have wanted since the Camaro has returned, and have it fully warrantied. I applaud GM for building the Z28 for the ones that will enjoy it! Personally, all I would want would be 3 more speakers, and then I would mod the 427 a lil more to my liking.

Yes it's going to be expensive but I can't imagine MSRP being $70K. I guess it's fun to speculate but that seems pretty high having heard at the NY Auto show what the Z/28 is comprised of. Probably will be approaching that though with taxes and could be higher if you buy from the wrong dealer. We will see.

Exactly :thumbup: , more Horsepower is where it's at :headbang:

GM has already public stated the z28 is above the zl1 in price point. That puts it in the 60-70k range, that is even without dealer markup which this model will surely have.

My car with it's little cam likely will have more power than the stock Z28, my car has about 520 hp @ the crank. I was expecting a car with an LS7 that was priced a between a 1LE and ZL1, it seems others were as well. No worries, GM didn't consult me for my input... :biggrin:

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I see it being $58,995-59,595 or something like that for the base.

Base? Seems like the only options would be color and air conditioning... not really many options to make it much more than "base" anyway. I don't think they're going to offer a "luxury Z/28" to have anything more than a "base".

As a ZL1 owner, the last thing I am worried about is the Z/28 outshining the ZL1. I am thrilled that GM made the Z/28. I think that is a little presumptuous of you. I have not run into any ZL1 owners that have anything negative to say about the Z/28. While they may be surprised at the approach and have opinions on what they would have like to have seen, I think the #1 issue most people have is that is going to cost MORE than the ZL1 which is tough to justify unless you are a totally committed track person.

$62995

Go back and reread what I said.

The only people upset about the Z/28 are those that will not be able to afford it. While it may be a bummer for some, you can't argue how great this car is going to be. A 1LE with an LS7 ain't gonna cut it.

I wish i concured. would have saved me lots of money. the ls3 does well in the vette but in the camaro it just feels so average.

even the lsa left me wanting for more until I modded it.

If GM decides to offer a decent BLUE akin to the Hotwheels color, I will be ordering a 2014 1LE with them thar fancy seats. I will be adding a cam, LT headers, intake, exhaust and of course a new tune. 500hp range, no problem. Crossing fingers.

That would be the ultimate 1LE. I would do backflips if they made Kinetic Blue available but I'm not optimistic. Is the lack of a nice blue the only thing holding you back from a 2014 1LE?

And they are the target buyer for the new Z/28.

I will buy a z/28, and it will be my DD. that is all. ;)

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People are upset by the approach GM took in creating the Z/28 not because they can't afford it, if you want speak for yourself go right ahead. It's just not practical for most ppl especially in my case being track orientated. I can reduce weight by taking out my speakers, and other means. But I'd rather not. Instead of stripping down to reduce weight a 5th Gen they should have waited for the Z/28 to be on a platform that will already be engineered for less weight(6th Gen) while maintaining some of the comforts people are used to. By putting a LS7 engine in GM is trying to sway some people to jump. I'm staying put. Kudos for GM bringing the hallowed name back but it was forced with a sub-par refresh. For those making it a DD good luck with that, I'm laughing at the first member who tears up his front lip on the highway.

All this talk about the Z being a DD and pricing or creature comforts. Really??? Get over it and buy something else if you don't like it, move on and find something else to complain about. Look at the original Z28 in 1967. Was it a practical for everyone as a DD especially if you opted for the cross-ram dual four intake & headers in the trunk waiting to be installed by the dealer?? It's a base for a race car, not a Cadillac. The public is spoiled with comforts. Want a race car buy it, want a street car buy it but don't expect both out of one. The Camaro isn't a "super car" and never will be. It's average Joes muscle car just as it was intended way back in the day.

Nicely put.

Most people out there just see every 5th gen as a camaro, they just don't know the diffrence. My little v6 still turns heads and it puts a smile on my face, thats all that really matters. So go out and drive a camaro no matter which one it is.

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I thought you could get a Z/28 with options. Although it would defeat the purpose of the Z/28.

Only option is A/C

For those who really want one and don't intend to race much. A few speakers and some well placed Dynamat can take care of many of your issues. Most people would put headers on it anyhow so the weight loss of factory exhaust parts could offset the dynamat and a couple speakers.

I can afford. I think GM did exactly what they should have done with introducing this car at the tail end of the 5th gen platform production cycle. I love the car. I would never DD it. I don't DD my ZL1. These cars are toys for me. They come out when I have time and the weather is right. I could use the Z/28 the same exact way I use my ZL1 without any issues. I may just do that. There was a time when I had to DD my performance cars but that time has passed. I for one love this new Z/28.

Yea, pretty much. Been waiting for a good, true blue. After thinking about the Z28 for a bit, I know its not for me. My car is my DD, so a Z is over the top, plus I still think the 1LE is the best starting platform for mods, in the power/weight/price balance.

If they did wait until the 6th gen I would still want them to strip out the radio and make the AC optional, less weight would still be better for a track oriented car even if the baseline is not as heavy as the 5th gen.

As for DDing the Z/28 I would definitely do that if I ever get my hands on one.

I'd DD the Z28 if it was a 20 minute commute to where ever but if I'm going to be driving for an hour and out enjoying the drive, I want my ZL1. It's the best of both worlds. Track performer and cruiser, you decide.

I love listening to the exhaust. Usually the only time my radio comes on it when my windows are up because of bad weather or if someone else is riding with me. Other than that the exhaust note is pure ear sex

ZL1 owner and I agree with you 100% I love my ZL1 because it has everything i need in a camaro, power, handling and all the creature comforts. If I had the money and a local road course I'd get a Z/28 but I would drive it to the track and back and that'd be it.