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Camarino 02-15-2009 10:11 PM

Auotomatic transmission Picture
 
Umm, maybe i'm missing something, but does anyone know what the "M" stands for in this picture of the automatic shifter. i was expecting 'P, R, N, D, 1, 2, 3" ?


http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...4&d=1231639778

CDBiker220 02-15-2009 10:12 PM

Most likely to give full control to the paddle shifters

Vash 02-15-2009 10:12 PM

Manual shift mode. There are shift levers on the wheel for up and dn.

Camarino 02-15-2009 10:15 PM

OOOh wow, lol just when i thought i knew everything about the new camaro.thnx guys so basically for gears 1-3 you shift up and down on the wheel ?

Milk 1027 02-15-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 292437)
Umm, maybe i'm missing something, but does anyone know what the "M" stands for in this picture of the automatic shifter. i was expecting 'P, R, N, D, 1, 2, 3" ?

Yes you are missing something. The automatic also lets you shift manually with paddle shifters, without the need of a clutch.
That's what the M is for

Inspector 17 02-15-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 292447)
OOOh wow, lol just when i thought i knew everything about the new camaro.thnx guys so basically for gears 1-3 you shift up and down on the wheel ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milk 1027 (Post 292448)
Yes you are missing something. The automatic also lets you shift manually with paddle shifters, without the need of a clutch.
That's what the M is for

Camarino, it will actually give you access to all 6 gears via the paddles like a manual without a clutch, just as Milk stated.

They will look something like this:
http://blogs.edmunds.com/karl/Paddle%20Shifter.jpg

Camarino 02-15-2009 10:37 PM

that'll be cool, i guess that little button on the back of the steering wheel in front of the windshield wiper handle must be it.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...4&d=1231639198

Camarino 02-15-2009 10:40 PM

WOW btw now the word TAPSHIFT just popped back in my head from the brochures lol talk about connecting the dots thanks fr all the help guys

Inspector 17 02-15-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 292490)
that'll be cool, i guess that little button on the back of the steering wheel in front of the windshield wiper handle must be it.

That looks like it could be it.

fad1 02-15-2009 10:48 PM

M means manual, and that's used for the tapshift

Camarino 02-15-2009 10:48 PM

yea it's gotta be. that'll definitely be fun!
you know what else i noticed they replaced the Torque gauge in the 4-pack with tranny temp. wtf? lol
here is a quote from AUTOMOBILE MAGAZINE i found after i saw the pic that made me laugh

"The optional four-instrument gauge cluster on the front of the console has been modified in the past few months, eliminating the torque readout shown in almost all official photography to date. The current gauges offer up oil pressure, oil temperature, electrical system voltage, and transmission temperature. (GM admits that the last one is kind of pointless in a car that will rarely, if ever, see a trailer hitch, but the cluster required four gauges for symmetry.)"

Here is the link if anyone wants to read the full wriet up on the tested V6 (FYI its multiple pages the quote is on page 4)

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews.../interior.html

UCF w00t 02-15-2009 10:48 PM

You can't actually see the buttons from the front but you can see the little things that are the labels for them. Note the plus and minus sign on either side of the wheel.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/...02247cd2_b.jpg

You can see the actual button in this picture...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/...a2fc6597_b.jpg

They are in a great location that doesn't get in the way at all but is still easily accessible and comfortable to use while driving and you don't have to go out of your way to use it.

Camarino 02-15-2009 10:50 PM

oh yea good call.

heres a close up
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...2&d=1222742891

MerF 02-15-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 292519)
yea it's gotta be. that'll definitely be fun!
you know what else i noticed they replaced the Torque gauge in the 4-pack with tranny temp. wtf? lol

Yeah we were told this many moons ago. There's talk it was patent laws, but the official response is expense over value made it not worthwhile, or something to that effect.

Camarino 02-15-2009 11:01 PM

OH, that patent thing might make sense, i remember reading in an older issue of MOTORTREND in september about an 18 y.o. kid that was developing an on board torqe read out system.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html

gm4life05sle 02-15-2009 11:03 PM

I knew it was going to be a automated manual but never knew where the buttons would be, as I would go with a stick anyways. Good info tho, even if I knew some of it already.

Rodrunner 02-16-2009 11:53 AM

It doesn't stand for Mach drive????


:wave:

CamaroSkooter 02-16-2009 12:26 PM

"They've gone....to plaid!"

CamaroSpike23 02-16-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 292447)
OOOh wow, lol just when i thought i knew everything about the new camaro.thnx guys so basically for gears 1-3 you shift up and down on the wheel ?

you havent been on here long enough to know everything about the new camaro :laugh::laugh:

jk.


but basically, as already stated. you pop the stick to the "M" and from there you take control of the gears with the paddles.

Rob490 02-16-2009 04:05 PM

its interesting how its so low key (the padles) unlike other cars

rmyers 02-16-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gm4life05sle (Post 292541)
I knew it was going to be a automated manual but never knew where the buttons would be, as I would go with a stick anyways. Good info tho, even if I knew some of it already.

Whoaaaa...Lets not confuse this with an automated manual. It is not. Do not mistake this transmission with the likes of the BMW SMG unit or the dual-clutch tranny in the new GT-R. Those are true dual-clutch transmissions which are manual gearboxes that have the clutch activation and de-activation computer controlled. The Camaro has a real automatic transmission with a Torque Converter as a clutch. The automated manuals you refer to have actual clutches and pressure plates. There is a HUGE difference.

SGOS252382 02-16-2009 04:16 PM

First great pictures - I can't wait to use my paddle shifters.

Question:
Will the car automatically upshift if the rpms move into redline with the car in M mode? How do the paddle shift work on similar cars (corvette, etc). I've heard that if you don't shift by a certain rpm (say redline), the car will automatically make the upshift. Is that true?

Or will the rpm hit the rev limiter and cause fuel cut off just as they would with the manual?

Camarino 02-16-2009 08:20 PM

yea good question, i'd also like 2 find out if you can go right from "M" to "D" like in a regular auto when you go from "3" to "D"

btw nice vette rmyers

Vash 02-16-2009 08:31 PM

Yea you can go back in D while at speed if that was your question. (Assuming it works like the tap shift on my old 2000 GTS celica).

Camarino 02-16-2009 08:35 PM

yea it was lol thnx, i'm still a little confused though because in a normal manual car if you have to brake on the highway for slower traffic you brake the car and then clutch and start down shifting how would that work with this situation? would you just start downshifting right away or throw it in D maybe? can you downshift at a high speed likethat ? because in a normal manual you know if you're in like 4th or 5th gear and you take your foot off the clutch too quick the RPM is so high that the car gets bogged down. or what about braking hard in an emergency?, i ask only because i'm REALLY new to the whole TAPSHIFT thing im used to either manual OR automatic lol ,

UCF w00t 02-16-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382 (Post 293420)
First great pictures - I can't wait to use my paddle shifters.

Question:
Will the car automatically upshift if the rpms move into redline with the car in M mode? How do the paddle shift work on similar cars (corvette, etc). I've heard that if you don't shift by a certain rpm (say redline), the car will automatically make the upshift. Is that true?

Or will the rpm hit the rev limiter and cause fuel cut off just as they would with the manual?

They've said that the only thing that it will stop you from doing is down shifting into a gear that will cause you to be over the red line. If you're already in the gear, you should be able to go all the way up and hit the rev limiter. Also, if you come to a stop it will automatically downshift into first for you.

Camarino 02-16-2009 10:08 PM

yea it was lol thnx, i'm still a little confused though because in a normal manual car if you have to brake on the highway for slower traffic you brake the car and then clutch and start down shifting how would that work with this situation? would you just start downshifting right away or throw it in D maybe? can you downshift at a high speed likethat ? because in a normal manual you know if you're in like 4th or 5th gear and you take your foot off the clutch too quick the RPM is so high that the car gets bogged down. or what about braking hard in an emergency?, i ask only because i'm REALLY new to the whole TAPSHIFT thing im used to either manual OR automatic lol ,

rmyers 02-17-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 293935)
yea it was lol thnx, i'm still a little confused though because in a normal manual car if you have to brake on the highway for slower traffic you brake the car and then clutch and start down shifting how would that work with this situation? would you just start downshifting right away or throw it in D maybe? can you downshift at a high speed likethat ? because in a normal manual you know if you're in like 4th or 5th gear and you take your foot off the clutch too quick the RPM is so high that the car gets bogged down. or what about braking hard in an emergency?, i ask only because i'm REALLY new to the whole TAPSHIFT thing im used to either manual OR automatic lol ,

The important thing to remember is this is an automatic transmission. The TAPSHIFT buttons only provide a sportier way to drive and shift. The bottom line is it has a torque converter clutch, so it is just an automatic.

And thanks for the compliment on my car.

Camarino 02-17-2009 12:31 PM

lol you're very welcome. thnx for clarifying it makes sense now sort of you can shift the auto-tranny instead of the car but if you don't it will

Vash 02-17-2009 03:26 PM

It can be used to help slow down but if you do a lot of that the manual is a better option. *IMO. I never manually downshift my GM autos. Why? Because I am allergic to tranny bills. (broke arse).

Camarino 02-17-2009 05:00 PM

yea i see what ure sayin, yea if ure gunna be doin alotta shifting might as well get the manual lol but im thiniking more of rare shifting for fun

MerF 02-18-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 295042)
yea i see what ure sayin, yea if ure gunna be doin alotta shifting might as well get the manual lol but im thiniking more of rare shifting for fun

Is this really all that funny? lol?

Just saying...it's not really funny, and people are probably going to think you're a bit crazy if you're sitting at your computer laughing out loud as you type.

fad1 02-18-2009 10:44 AM

Dude, that shifter is awesome. The tapshift is awesome but im not really looking forward to using it. I have it on my 08 Altima, and I really dont care for it at all.

Camarino 02-18-2009 12:45 PM

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Dude, that shifter is awesome. The tapshift is awesome but im not really looking forward to using it. I have it on my 08 Altima, and I really dont care for it at all.
I always say don't judge till you've experienced, how does it operate on your altima ?

CamaroSpike23 02-20-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarino (Post 296354)
I always say don't judge till you've experienced, how does it operate on your altima ?

I would venture to say that wouldnt be a fair comparison....

1xx hp/tq vs 400 hp/tq.... :headbang:

Camarino 02-20-2009 06:56 PM

Exactly, My cousin has this sporty 07-08 Atima that he's always braggin about, and i always bust his chops because its just not impressive at all, it's all style and no substance, so i'm not surprised that you don;t like the TAPSHIFT on the Altima

VJCamaro 02-20-2009 07:21 PM

I personally have not seen "tap-shift" in action, but from what I heard, if you don't downshift it will do it automatically for you?
What I noticed in the pictures above is that their are paddle shifters on both the right and left side. Is one paddle for up shifting, and the other for down shifting? I think that would make things easier if this is the case.

Ject 02-20-2009 07:26 PM

When in "M" the car will not shift upward unless you tell it to.
The car will prevent you from downshifting too early .... say you are hitting 6k rpm in 3rd gear.. and going into 2nd gear would be dumb and kill the car probably... The car will prevent you from downshifting if you are going to be over the rev limiter.

Upon braking / stoping.. (say from 5th gear) the car will automatically downshift for you like any normal automatic tranny would.

Hope this helps.

UCF w00t 02-20-2009 07:27 PM

It will not downshift for you (except into 1st when you stop). It will prevent you from downshifting if the new gear will force you to over-rev.

Yes, downshift on the left, up-shift on the right.

VJCamaro 02-20-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ject (Post 300538)
When in "M" the car will not shift upward unless you tell it to.
The car will prevent you from downshifting too early .... say you are hitting 6k rpm in 3rd gear.. and going into 2nd gear would be dumb and kill the car probably... The car will prevent you from downshifting if you are going to be over the rev limiter.

Upon braking / stoping.. (say from 5th gear) the car will automatically downshift for you like any normal automatic tranny would.

Hope this helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t (Post 300540)
It will not downshift for you (except into 1st when you stop). It will prevent you from downshifting if the new gear will force you to over-rev.

Yes, downshift on the left, up-shift on the right.

Thank's Y'all! That all I need to know. PERFECT!!!


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