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GTAHVIT 03-02-2012 05:01 PM

Just ordered a clutch reservoir from Ofer! :D getting the brake upgrade all lined up!

:D

Next up Pedders SS brake lines... :D

Still working out the Zl1 calipers and rotors. :D

Darth_Emma 03-02-2012 05:27 PM

Does Pedders make stainless steel brake lines for V6 brakes? I need a rear set. (I bought some V6 calipers for the rear).

Number 3 03-02-2012 05:34 PM

Day late and a dollar short, my friend but Happy Birthday. Hope you had a good one.

PQ 03-02-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4577667)
Just ordered a clutch reservoir from Ofer! :D getting the brake upgrade all lined up!

:D

Next up Pedders SS brake lines... :D

Still working out the Zl1 calipers and rotors. :D

:) That's not gonna help you with me in August. LMAO

How much are we talking?

And what is special about Ofers clutch bowl? :popcorn:

2SSRS@Gen5diy 03-02-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4577920)
:) That's not gonna help you with me in August. LMAO

How much are we talking?

And what is special about Ofers clutch bowl? :popcorn:

But i can get him a part that will.:rolleyes:

CamaroSpike23 03-02-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4577004)
:rolleyes:

With you two as the interveeners I should running 9s and lapping the ring ahead of the Radical SR8 in no time. :bellyroll:


funny you mention that... if you would have told me you wanted to run 9's, I could have gotten you there along time ago... :D

GTAHVIT 03-03-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 4575365)
Crap...I think I missed your birthday.....:bolt:

But better late than never!

HaPpY BiRtHdAy!1!

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Originally Posted by Number 3 (Post 4577829)
Day late and a dollar short, my friend but Happy Birthday. Hope you had a good one.

Hey! No worries gents! Thanks for the well wishes. :D

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4577920)
:) That's not gonna help you with me in August. LMAO

How much are we talking?

And what is special about Ofers clutch bowl? :popcorn:

Right now the clutch and brake master cyls use the same fluid. with Ofers' clutch reservoir I can keep the clutch and brake fluid separate. This keeps the clutch fluid clean and cooler as the brake fluid get really hot under extreme braking and keeps the clutch from working properly, getting stuck to the floor. By separating them one won't have any effect on the other.

PQ 03-03-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS (Post 4578041)
But i can get him a part that will.:rolleyes:

Please don't :laugh:

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 4578987)
funny you mention that... if you would have told me you wanted to run 9's, I could have gotten you there along time ago... :D

:) I'd just kill myself.

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4581538)
Right now the clutch and brake master cyls use the same fluid. with Ofers' clutch reservoir I can keep the clutch and brake fluid separate. This keeps the clutch fluid clean and cooler as the brake fluid get really hot under extreme braking and keeps the clutch from working properly, getting stuck to the floor. By separating them one won't have any effect on the other.

Oh. Damn. Nice.

I was hoping it would be a pretty engine bay mod. LOL

CamaroSpike23 03-03-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4581545)
Please don't :laugh:

:) I'd just kill myself.

Oh. Damn. Nice.

I was hoping it would be a pretty engine bay mod. LOL

you'd have to have a regulation cage to run 9's. they are pretty safe...lol

GTAHVIT 03-04-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma (Post 4577790)
Does Pedders make stainless steel brake lines for V6 brakes? I need a rear set. (I bought some V6 calipers for the rear).

I don't know... I forgot to ask Pete... Lemme check with him.

Dangeruss 03-04-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma (Post 4577790)
Does Pedders make stainless steel brake lines for V6 brakes? I need a rear set. (I bought some V6 calipers for the rear).

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4589066)
I don't know... I forgot to ask Pete... Lemme check with him.

I spoke with Pete about the exact same thing when he came out for my install. He said they were working on them. Let me know if you find out they've made any progress. I need a set. :thumbsup:

GTAHVIT 03-05-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss (Post 4589108)
I spoke with Pete about the exact same thing when he came out for my install. He said they were working on them. Let me know if you find out they've made any progress. I need a set. :thumbsup:

will do!

New sig.... for now... :laugh:

Dangeruss 03-05-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4590766)
will do!

New sig.... for now... :laugh:

You'll change it again in an hour. ;)

GTAHVIT 03-05-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss (Post 4590773)
You'll change it again in an hour. ;)

If I can ever learn how you get those backgrounds to work... :respekt:

when I do it it looks awful. :laugh:

Dangeruss 03-05-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4590788)
If I can ever learn how you get those backgrounds to work... :respekt:

when I do it it looks awful. :laugh:

All you gotta do is ask. :)

GTAHVIT 03-05-2012 10:53 AM

May have to take you up on that.

JusticePete 03-05-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss (Post 4590832)
All you gotta do is ask. :)

It took him a year of study, written instructions, video instructions and in person instruction to figure out how to install radius bush inserts. Something as technical as backgrounds could much longer. Do you have unlimited data and messaging on your phone ?

Dangeruss 03-05-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4592222)
It took him a year of study, written instructions, video instructions and in person instruction to figure out how to install radius bush inserts. Something as technical as backgrounds could much longer. Do you have unlimited data and messaging on your phone ?

Messaging yes...data is limited to 4GB monthly. I may need to have access to a wifi connection.

PQ 03-05-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4592222)
It took him a year of study, written instructions, video instructions and in person instruction to figure out how to install radius bush inserts. Something as technical as backgrounds could much longer. Do you have unlimited data and messaging on your phone ?

:sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0: :sm0:

GTAHVIT 03-05-2012 09:10 PM

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So :emoticon3:

:laugh:

Got me the first part of my brake upgrade :D

JusticePete 03-05-2012 09:10 PM

Did it come with instructions?

Mr. Wyndham 03-05-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4590870)
May have to take you up on that.

Sign me up, too - please! :)

PQ 03-05-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4594593)
So :emoticon3:

:laugh:

Got me the first part of my brake upgrade :D

(love your countertops dude. :))

Ok, carry on.

Ok. So the brakes should be installed my Fest IV :bellyroll:

JusticePete 03-05-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4594828)
(love your countertops dude. :))

Ok, carry on.

Ok. So the brakes should be installed my Fest IV :bellyroll:

Don't rush him :D

PQ 03-05-2012 10:00 PM

:bellyroll:

Darth_Emma 03-05-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4594601)
Did it come with instructions?

Righty mighty, loosey goosey.

Mr. Wyndham 03-05-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4594593)
So :emoticon3:

:laugh:

Got me the first part of my brake upgrade :D

Subscribed...this will feed the clutch cylinder?

GTAHVIT 03-06-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4594601)
Did it come with instructions?

:D Yes... Ofer's thread right here on camaro5 :D

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Originally Posted by PQ (Post 4594828)
(love your countertops dude. :))

Thanks!

Ok, carry on.

Ok. So the brakes should be installed my Fest IV :bellyroll:

Jerk

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4594896)
Don't rush him :D

:sm0:

jerk

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma (Post 4594973)
Righty mighty, loosey goosey.

Thanks for the backup em.... wait... wut? http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ictureid=51168

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 4594998)
Subscribed...this will feed the clutch cylinder?

Yep this will make it so that the clutch and brake fluid are completely separate so one won't contaminate the other.
As I understand it, under hard braking the brake/clutch fluid boils making it so the clutch pedal loses pressure. Adding the separate Reservoir help with that and also keeps brake dust out of the clutch master cyl with can cause problems.

At least that's how I understand it. but I'll defer to Pete or any of the other experts around here.

Darth_Emma 03-06-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4597538)

Thanks for the backup em.... wait... wut?

I learned everything I know from the "MisterCamaro69's School of Automobile Mechanics and Wizardy."

The Stig 03-06-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4597538)
Yep this will make it so that the clutch and brake fluid are completely separate so one won't contaminate the other.
As I understand it, under hard braking the brake/clutch fluid boils making it so the clutch pedal loses pressure. Adding the separate Reservoir help with that and also keeps brake dust out of the clutch master cyl with can cause problems.

At least that's how I understand it. but I'll defer to Pete or any of the other experts around here.

Basically. Also that the clutch fluid gets dirty whenever you miss shift or grind gears. This then in turn gets into the brake fluid, that then in turn makes you lose pressure on the clutch peddle, which leads to more miss shifts, etc etc it's a circle

GTAHVIT 03-06-2012 12:54 PM

:thumbsup: makes sense to me.

JusticePete 03-06-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4597538)
:D Yes... Ofer's thread right here on camaro5 :D



Jerk



:sm0:

jerk



Thanks for the backup em.... wait... wut? http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ictureid=51168



Yep this will make it so that the clutch and brake fluid are completely separate so one won't contaminate the other.
As I understand it, under hard braking the brake/clutch fluid boils making it so the clutch pedal loses pressure. Adding the separate Reservoir help with that and also keeps brake dust out of the clutch master cyl with can cause problems.

At least that's how I understand it. but I'll defer to Pete or any of the other experts around here.

Only if you use the cheapest fluid from K-Mart :yikes:

Motul RBF600 Wet Boil 421F
Castrol SRF Wet Boil 518F

The Castrol Wet Boil is almost the same as ATE Super Blue TYP/200 Dry Boil. Separate reservoirs will prolong the life of the brake fluid because the fluid passing through the clutch picks up debris.

SSE 4 2SS 03-06-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4594593)
So :emoticon3:

:laugh:

Got me the first part of my brake upgrade :D

Hey, have you been at my house while I was gone... Those are my countertops... the exact same granite... I rekunize the jelly stain..

Mr Twisty 03-06-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma (Post 4597578)
I learned everything I know from the "MisterCamaro69's School of Automobile Mechanics and Wizardy."

Publisher said someone FINALLY bought one... thanks! :headbang:
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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4598134)
Only if you use the cheapest fluid from K-Mart :yikes:

Motul RBF600 Wet Boil 421F
Castrol SRF Wet Boil 518F

The Castrol Wet Boil is almost the same as ATE Super Blue TYP/200 Dry Boil. Separate reservoirs will prolong the life of the brake fluid because the fluid passing through the clutch picks up debris.

... High wet boil is the good stuff, right? (contaminated with condensation and still works well, did I remember correctly?)
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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 4598203)
Hey, have you been at my house while I was gone... Those are my countertops... the exact same granite... I rekunize the jelly stain..

Dude, you're out of beer.... AGAIN :iono:

GTAHVIT 03-06-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 4598134)
Only if you use the cheapest fluid from K-Mart :yikes:

Motul RBF600 Wet Boil 421F
Castrol SRF Wet Boil 518F

The Castrol Wet Boil is almost the same as ATE Super Blue TYP/200 Dry Boil. Separate reservoirs will prolong the life of the brake fluid because the fluid passing through the clutch picks up debris.

The reservoir is pretty inexpensive. So, I'll do it anyway... but you think the fluid upgrade is more important than separating the reservoirs?

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 4598203)
Hey, have you been at my house while I was gone... Those are my countertops... the exact same granite... I rekunize the jelly stain..

:laugh: mehbeh... I was looking around for spare parts that I can put on my cah!!! :cool:

And that was pizza sauce... the kids made mini pizzas the other night. :D

WadeWilson 03-06-2012 02:58 PM

:wave:

SSE 4 2SS 03-06-2012 03:04 PM

Note to self... when arriving home..... Check the shop for missing tools, beer, car parts, beer, stereo, beer, paint supplies, beer, motorcycle, beer, posters, beer, fast car, beer, dog, beer, vienna sausages, beer.....

GTAHVIT 03-06-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shardik2SS (Post 4598440)
:wave:

YO!

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 4598471)
Note to self... when arriving home..... Check the shop for missing tools, beer, car parts, beer, stereo, beer, paint supplies, beer, motorcycle, beer, posters, beer, fast car, beer, dog, beer, vienna sausages, beer.....

don't for get to look for the tequila... just sayin... :iono:

SSE 4 2SS 03-06-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4598484)
YO!



don't for get to look for the tequila... just sayin... :iono:

Nope, you wern't there, it was the rum stash I was worried about...
Tequila is Debbies for her magaritas....

JusticePete 03-06-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 4598330)
The reservoir is pretty inexpensive. So, I'll do it anyway... but you think the fluid upgrade is more important than separating the reservoirs?

If you are a maintenance freak, the shared reservoir is no big deal. Most people are absolutely not maintenance freaks i.e. bleed before a track event and bleed the after a track event :facepalm:

Most people that have a good maintenance program will bleed before and drive on the fluid until the next event. For the vast majority of C5 owners the separate reservoirs are a good idea.

Is fluid more important than split reservoirs?

Boiling point ranges
Dry boiling point Wet boiling point
DOT 3 205 C (401 F) 140 C (284 F)
DOT 4 230 C (446 F) 155 C (311 F)
DOT 5 260 C (500 F) 180 C (356 F)
DOT 5.1 270 C (518 F) 190 C (374 F)

When rotors glow they are 1,000F Again, most C5 owners will not drive so hard as to get their rotors glowing. When you look at the wet boil points of ordinary brake fluids it would not be at all unusual with moderately hard brake use to see fluid temps in the calipers of 311F or too close for comfort to the wet boil range for average fluids.

The SRF is hands down the best fluid and comes at a super premium price. The Motul RBF600 is reasonable at $15 a bottle and I would say mandatory for a daily driver that will see some AC and Road Course use.


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