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ShnOmac 02-28-2012 05:58 PM

Plea for a "Z"....
 
Dear GM,

We have been keeping the faith for a very long time.... Notice one of our first 5th Gen Z/28 thread's date's back to 2008!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3580


How much longer are you going to make this VERY passionate group wait? :chevy:

2cnd chance 02-28-2012 07:24 PM

Maybe we need to OccupyZ GM?

Pain505 02-28-2012 07:27 PM

ZL1?

2cnd chance 02-28-2012 07:41 PM

Great car, just not what I and others want.

wildpaws 02-28-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4559827)
Great car, just not what I and others want.

Exactly, those are my sentiments as well!!
Clyde

LOWDOWN 02-28-2012 08:02 PM

Not everyone enjoys being blown...ALL the time... :D

ShnOmac 02-28-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4559734)
Maybe we need to OccupyZ GM?

You may be on to something...... :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain505 (Post 4559752)
ZL1?

Although it is a incredible car I prefer my track car to be NA!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4559827)
Great car, just not what I and others want.

:word:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpaws (Post 4559895)
Exactly, those are my sentiments as well!!
Clyde

:word:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4559979)
Not everyone enjoys being blown...ALL the time... :D

You owe me for a keyboard and a mouth full of beer......




:laugh:

OldScoolCamaro 02-28-2012 08:15 PM

...or could say....Pleaze for a Z....just sayin....;)

ShnOmac 02-28-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 4560066)
...or could say....Pleaze for a Z....just sayin....;)

I though about using PleaZ but thought it may be a little to cheezy..... :D

wildpaws 02-28-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4560107)
I though about using PleaZ but thought it may be a little to cheezy..... :D

There's nothing too cheezy when begging for a Z/28 to be made, I don't care what I have to say or how I have to beg........just do it GM!!
Clyde

mlee 02-28-2012 08:27 PM

I sure hope Mr Hendrick doesn't beat you out of Z28 #1....

you sir, have earned it...:thumbsup:

ShnOmac 02-28-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpaws (Post 4560127)
There's nothing too cheezy when begging for a Z/28 to be made, I don't care what I have to say or how I have to beg........just do it GM!!
Clyde

In that case let's hope theze zqueeky wheelz getz the greaze! :D

JoeP@TeamBeckyD 02-28-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 4560142)
I sure hope Mr Hendrick doesn't beat you out of Z28 #1....

you sir, have earned it...:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:


:word:



:wub:

OldScoolCamaro 02-28-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4560107)
I though about using PleaZ but thought it may be a little to cheezy..... :D

Not at all! One could never be cheezy when saying pleaze Z...<ok I'll stop now.....> :D

LOWDOWN 02-28-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 4560142)
I sure hope Mr Hendrick doesn't beat you out of Z28 #1....

you sir, have earned it...:thumbsup:

I believe I requested that one, some time ago... :D :chevy: :thumbsup:

Ms. Rebecca, get your Order pad ready...

LOWDOWN 02-28-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4560012)
You owe me for a keyboard and a mouth full of beer......

:laugh:

ShnOman, I should have posted a WARNING, first... :D :confused0068:

ShnOmac 02-28-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4559734)
Maybe we need to OccupyZ GM?

Well we could start by OccupyZing Camaro5 first.... We could bump all of the old Z/28 post's in the ZL1 section and take it over! :D

OldScoolCamaro 02-28-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4560266)
ShnOman, I should have posted a WARNING, first... :D :confused0068:

:laugh:....I had to read that twice Mac and Lowdown to get it...... :facepalm: got z brain fade zuddenly.....

ShnOmac 02-28-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 4560293)
:laugh:....I had to read that twice Mac and Lowdown to get it...... :facepalm: got z brain fade zuddenly.....

:laugh: Glad Im not the only one with brain fade tonight.....

wildpaws 02-28-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4560328)
:laugh: Glad Im not the only one with brain fade tonight.....

Wait until you join the 60+ club like some of us here, it keeps getting more frequent! The plus side to that is that I can dream about the good old days and a nice first gen. Z/28 and if I drift out of conversations or chat rooms, I can simply blame it on being old and nobody thinks badly of me for that.
Clyde

LOWDOWN 02-28-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4560252)
I believe I requested that one, some time ago... :D :chevy: :thumbsup:

Ms. Rebecca, get your Order pad ready...

I got Holmes and Watson on the case, and they told me this:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...149090&page=16

Post # 389...

Becky...can you get me THIS?!

LOWDOWN 02-28-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpaws (Post 4560364)
Wait until you join the 60+ club like some of us here, it keeps getting more frequent! The plus side to that is that I can dream about the good old days and a nice first gen. Z/28 and if I drift out of conversations or chat rooms, I can simply blame it on being old and nobody thinks badly of me for that.
Clyde

Youngin's think "Flowmaster"...

Usin's think "FloMax"... :D

WARNING: ShnOman's gonna spit more BEER! :confused0068:

2cnd chance 02-28-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4560286)
Well we could start by OccupyZing Camaro5 first.... We could bump all of the old Z/28 post's in the ZL1 section and take it over! :D

Mmmmmm......I see what you've done there....mmmmmm....I like it.

Blizzard 02-29-2012 11:21 AM

I don't care if I get vin #1 or #1,000,000 as long as its a 5th gen Z/28

Fightinfire921 02-29-2012 11:52 AM

28

OldJedi 02-29-2012 11:56 AM

I believe everyone is in unison when I say that the Z28 has to be a very unique vehicle. It can certainly draw parts and information from ZL1 and Corvette but it needs to be its own car that can be marked as the best Z28 of all time.

The LS7 quite simply has to be the heart and soul of the Z28. Anything else will dilute the marque.

Use the performance parts that were developed for the ZL1:
Front spitter, Lower front bumper with brake cooling ducts, Shock tower cross brace, 6 Piston front/4 Piston rear Brembos with the 2 pc. rotors, beefed up suspension components BUT NOT the MR system, upgraded transmissions both TR6060 and Automatic, Short-Shift Shifter, Dual mode exhaust, Beefed up ZL1 rear end.

This car HAS to have better seats. The Recaros used in the Boss 302 are the best for a reason. Use them! Because the Magnetic Shocks are not race accepted, pull the Pedders coil overs off of the GMPP shelf and put them on the Z28.

Use the 19" wheels from the CTS-V and put 285 tires on all four corners. Put a heat extractor hood on the car, either a variant of the ZL1 or Jay Leno hood. Use the upgraded HUD from the ZL1. Change the gauge faces to red like the ones used on the Camaro Black edition.

The hard part will be keeping the car in the $42,000 to $45,000 range with the above parts. But whatever you do, DO NOT dilute the name Z28 just to make a car. If the decision is made to build a Z28, then make it right and make it worthy of the name Z28.

monstertodd 02-29-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJedi (Post 4563258)
I believe everyone is in unison when I say that the Z28 has to be a very unique vehicle. It can certainly draw parts and information from ZL1 and Corvette but it needs to be its own car that can be marked as the best Z28 of all time.

The LS7 quite simply has to be the heart and soul of the Z28. Anything else will dilute the marque.

Use the performance parts that were developed for the ZL1:
Front spitter, Lower front bumper with brake cooling ducts, Shock tower cross brace, 6 Piston front/4 Piston rear Brembos with the 2 pc. rotors, beefed up suspension components BUT NOT the MR system, upgraded transmissions both TR6060 and Automatic, Short-Shift Shifter, Dual mode exhaust, Beefed up ZL1 rear end.

This car HAS to have better seats. The Recaros used in the Boss 302 are the best for a reason. Use them! Because the Magnetic Shocks are not race accepted, pull the Pedders coil overs off of the GMPP shelf and put them on the Z28.

Use the 19" wheels from the CTS-V and put 285 tires on all four corners. Put a heat extractor hood on the car, either a variant of the ZL1 or Jay Leno hood. Use the upgraded HUD from the ZL1. Change the gauge faces to red like the ones used on the Camaro Black edition.

The hard part will be keeping the car in the $42,000 to $45,000 range with the above parts. But whatever you do, DO NOT dilute the name Z28 just to make a car. If the decision is made to build a Z28, then make it right and make it worthy of the name Z28.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

LOWDOWN 02-29-2012 03:36 PM

My best guesstimate is 1SS + 1LE (HD drivetrain/hardware/rolling-stock/body, excluding heated leather) = $40-42,000 ($8-10K); as a 2SS, mid-$40s. Multi-adjustable coddling Recaros: $2.5-4K. LS7 = $7K.

So...2SS + 1LE + Recaros + LS7 = ZL1 $hekel$, give or take (LSA "crate" = LS7 "crate")

And 1SS + 1LS Trim/Seats + 1LE + LS7 = Base Z/28 = $47,500...+ Recaros (only) = $51,500

Fightinfire921 02-29-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4564753)
My best guesstimate is 1SS + 1LE (HD drivetrain/hardware/rolling-stock/body, excluding heated leather) = $40-42,000 ($8-10K); as a 2SS, mid-$40s. Multi-adjustable coddling Recaros: $2.5-4K. LS7 = $7K.

So...2SS + 1LE + Recaros + LS7 = ZL1 $hekel$, give or take (LSA "crate" = LS7 "crate")

And 1SS + 1LS Trim/Seats + 1LE + LS7 = Base Z/28 = $47,500...+ Recaros (only) = $51,500

Plus the ABW and change of pants you will need after your first drive. :D

LOWDOWN 02-29-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gramps69Z (Post 4565131)
Plus the ABW and change of pants you will need after your first drive. :D

Well...that DEPENDS...or maybe I'll wear my leopard-skin thong... :confused0068:

ShnOmac 02-29-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4565173)
Well...that DEPENDS...or maybe I'll wear my leopard-skin thong... :confused0068:

:barf:

No offense....

LOWDOWN 03-01-2012 09:58 AM

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Seems to me, with forward-facing Ram Air, the 2nd and 3rd characters of this grille emblem are INCORRECT...
...and those look like excellent potential Brake Duct inlets, below the Driving Lights...

2cnd chance 03-01-2012 03:48 PM

I like it a lot. :headbang:

ShnOmac 03-01-2012 05:36 PM

I like it as well!

OldScoolCamaro 03-02-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4569240)
Seems to me, with forward-facing Ram Air, the 2nd and 3rd characters of this grille emblem are INCORRECT...
...and those look like excellent potential Brake Duct inlets, below the Driving Lights...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...1&d=1330617514


Ladies and Gentleman....may I propose this be the face of the Z28...

ShnOmac 03-02-2012 06:38 PM

"What would a report on this site be without a little peek into the future. When asked about the ZL1 versus Z28 issue, we asked if it was possible for a Z28 model to show up since it the Z28 badge and Camaro have been together since pretty much the beginning. That question was greeted with a big smile and a bit of a chuckle"






Not sure if a smile and a chuckle is a good thing or a bad thing??? :iono:

2cnd chance 03-02-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 4576029)
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...1&d=1330617514


Ladies and Gentleman....may I propose this be the face of the Z28...

YES! :drinking:

PYROLYSIS 03-02-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4578486)
YES! :drinking:

Agreed. Wasn't the ZL1 originally supposed to be the Z28? I thought it was a late name change and that it was decided that the ZL1 name was more fitting for the top dog Camaro. If that's true then why would they add a ZL1 badge to a body design that was only an option early on? I think they're just showing us a possible Z28 to guage our reaction. Looks good to me.

2cnd chance 03-02-2012 09:19 PM

We can only hope the 5Gen has a Z28. This Camaro's design deserves a Z28. I must add the ZL1 is awesome. And I must say it again a 427 Z28 would be magical!

ShnOmac 03-02-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 4579008)
Agreed. Wasn't the ZL1 originally supposed to be the Z28?

It was a rumor but nobody really knows. Well somebody does but they are not talking... :laugh:


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