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Bhobbs 09-08-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NVmyZL1 (Post 6984369)
I'm probably one of the few that is actually planning on putting a power-adder on my Z/28 after I take delivery. Of course, I'm going turbo versus supercharger.

Why?

Doc 09-08-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NVmyZL1 (Post 6984369)
I'm probably one of the few that is actually planning on putting a power-adder on my Z/28 after I take delivery. Of course, I'm going turbo versus supercharger.

You might want to wait until you get it and drive it before you do something like that. This thing is being very fine tuned and developed by some incredibly talented performance people. There's a good chance that right out of the box it's performance ability will exceed yours so before you start upsetting the power balance, drive it first. On the track. At the max your skill can handle. Then have a pro instructor drive it with you in the passenger seat and see if there's a difference. If there is (which there probably will be) then spend some money going to a reputable performance driving school like Bondurant's so you can learn how to really use what the Z/28 is already capable of. It's that kind of car.

How many road course tracks are available to you where you can go faster than the Z/28 will already be able to go? The shocks, damping, sways, handling balance is currently being fine tuned to the power the car already has; upsetting that balance is something I'd do very cautiously and only if I really knew how to improve it (which I don't). It also means having the testing facilities to do so (which I don't) and the money to burn through tires, brakes and gas while rebalancing the car after adding more power.

Unless you seriously know what you're doing, mod this car VERY carefully when it comes to power and handling. This car isn't being developed by amateurs, nor is it being balanced/tuned for street use so the standard things you may have done for your SS won't apply here.

Bhobbs 09-08-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NVmyZL1 (Post 6984622)
Thanks for the advice. Why would I do it? That's simple. I want more power available from the car than what it will come with from the factory. My Z/28 will see street, track and, very likely even a drag strip if the mood hits me. My car will not be a garage queen, track/HPDE-only vehicle.

Yes, I know that it may not be what the car was specifically designed/engineered for, but that really does not matter to me.

Just know that the Z/28 won't come with the HD rear end or half shafts so you probably will have to change that as well. Adding that much weight will throw off the suspension tuning.

Why not just mod your ZL1?

68vert 09-08-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6984574)
You might want to wait until you get it and drive it before you do something like that. This thing is being very fine tuned and developed by some incredibly talented performance people. There's a good chance that right out of the box it's performance ability will exceed yours so before you start upsetting the power balance, drive it first. On the track. At the max your skill can handle. Then have a pro instructor drive it with you in the passenger seat and see if there's a difference. If there is (which there probably will be) then spend some money going to a reputable performance driving school like Bondurant's so you can learn how to really use what the Z/28 is already capable of. It's that kind of car.

How many road course tracks are available to you where you can go faster than the Z/28 will already be able to go? The shocks, damping, sways, handling balance is currently being fine tuned to the power the car already has; upsetting that balance is something I'd do very cautiously and only if I really knew how to improve it (which I don't). It also means having the testing facilities to do so (which I don't) and the money to burn through tires, brakes and gas while rebalancing the car after adding more power.

Unless you seriously know what you're doing, mod this car VERY carefully when it comes to power and handling. This car isn't being developed by amateurs, nor is it being balanced/tuned for street use so the standard things you may have done for your SS won't apply here.

All very true, but you know that firms such as Lingenfelter and Hennessy will be releasing turbo packages for the Z/28 asap, just as they have for the Z06. Even at a low 5-6psi, that's 150hp that's passing power in between turns 5 and 6. :D I agree with you on the braking and suspension components/hardware...probably not a lot of room for improvement there.

1977and2010 09-08-2013 11:06 AM

No need for forced induction. LS7s respond well to all of the standard NA power adders, real long tube headers, ported heads, and a nice cam. I'm real interested to see how the power train holds up or if improvements have been made. I'm talking about clutch and the hydraulics, tranny syncros, diff, and half shafts. And the dam axle cv boots. I've had issues with all of those.

TrueStreetMotorSports.com 09-08-2013 11:24 AM

Sounds great

NASTY99Z28 09-08-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6981854)
I don't know what they've done to the Z/28's exhaust but not only does it sound different from the Vette but it sounds quite a bit better! Man what a gorgeous sound!

Yes it has a very deep almost "true" big block sound with less rasp then the Z06...IMO

2cnd chance 09-08-2013 07:14 PM

I don't think that's the case here. Or even in the Z/28 threads. The ZL1 is a great car. It does it ALL. We regulars in the Z/28 threads have wanted a car that was track oriented "only". That's the only reason we're not more focused on the ZL1.

2cnd chance 09-08-2013 07:41 PM

If you can have both a track focused car and the ability to drive it on the street why not? (Porsche GT3RS) Just numbers alone will make it possible for more ZL1's than Z/28's to be tracked.

Doc 09-08-2013 07:44 PM

Al O all but confirmed they're working on a new manufacturers championship series which will require the car be street legal to qualify. Which explains why Dodge and Ford are jumping in at this (expensive) level.

2cnd chance 09-08-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6986119)
Al O all but confirmed they're working on a new manufacturers championship series which will require the car be street legal to qualify. Which explains why Dodge and Ford are jumping in at this (expensive) level.

:w00t:

OldScoolCamaro 09-08-2013 08:36 PM

...posting before watching the clip, there's been quite a delay. Rationally, I don't see a reason why there has been such a long time inbetween testing footage. Me thinks there are things still to be sorted out. October price and information release?


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